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Let's Hypothesize about the DSC Constitution!

centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
We all know that the DSC Connie is on its way in-game and that it would have been here by now were it not for the fact that Season 2 has an episode left and the Devs are waiting to see if there are any surprises in store. What I'd like to know it what everyone thinks might be included in the ship once it gets in game. So go wild and let's talk shop!

Personally, when I saw the differences in weapon ranges between Enterprise and everyone else on a screenshot this morning I was struck with an idea. A unique Phaser Array or Photon Torpedo only allowed 1 per ship with a 12km range. There's only one weapon currently in game that does this and that's the Hirogen Tetryon Sniper Cannon (I think that's what it is called). They'd be visually similar to the TOS Phasers or Photons, but just different enough to distinguish between the two.

With this 12km range should come some limitations though, perhaps a narrow firing arc similar to DHCannons or a minimum range of 2-5km so it can't be used all the time.

Anyway, what ideas can you come up with?
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  • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    Oh one thing that I want more than anything else for the DSC Connie: the straight pylons from the original concept art.

    The swept back pylons are nice and all and look great on the Refit, but for this design I just prefer the straight ones to the swept back ones.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    There is a Long Range Destablised Tetryon Heavy Cannon in the Lobi Store that has a 12 Km range so that is theoretically not out in left field.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
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    l don't know.
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    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,165 Arc User
    No idea about stats. One thing is for sure, it will be in a box. Possibly lockbox, but probably R&D. Regarding the latter, possibly as a skin to the existing TOS light cruiser, but probably a new ship. Just in case I cashed in a ton of dil to promo packs to EC and have slightly over 2bil waiting for both the disco connie and disco d7. Let the fun begin.

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  • kekvinkekvin Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    How do you know that the mirror crossfield replaced it? I'd b happy with a skin tbh
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    kekvin wrote: »
    How do you know that the mirror crossfield replaced it? I'd b happy with a skin tbh

    Same here. I mean they already did give the Connie not only a revamp on the model for the standard and refit, but also added in the Pilot beta version.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,342 Arc User
    It'll be a 'Miracle Worker' 5/3 Battlecruiser. As for extra range weapons...really should only be torpedoes, energy weapons bleed off with distance....but we know Cryptic doesn't do physics :lol:
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • ichaerus1ichaerus1 Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    We all know that the DSC Connie is on its way in-game and that it would have been here by now were it not for the fact that Season 2 has an episode left and the Devs are waiting to see if there are any surprises in store. What I'd like to know it what everyone thinks might be included in the ship once it gets in game. So go wild and let's talk shop!

    Personally, when I saw the differences in weapon ranges between Enterprise and everyone else on a screenshot this morning I was struck with an idea. A unique Phaser Array or Photon Torpedo only allowed 1 per ship with a 12km range. There's only one weapon currently in game that does this and that's the Hirogen Tetryon Sniper Cannon (I think that's what it is called). They'd be visually similar to the TOS Phasers or Photons, but just different enough to distinguish between the two.

    With this 12km range should come some limitations though, perhaps a narrow firing arc similar to DHCannons or a minimum range of 2-5km so it can't be used all the time.


    Anyway, what ideas can you come up with?

    There's already a long ranged console(Projected Singularity console has a firing range past 10km), a Long Ranged Destabilizing Tetryon Heavy Cannon(the Hirogen lobi tetryon burn cannon, 12km range with no damage dropoff from range, 3 second cycling time, and 180 degree arc), and projectile(Bio-Neural Warhead has a 15km range with a 3km minimum firing range, but also a long firing cooldown, from the tricobalt side of the hybrid TCD/AP projectile).

    I say no to the Phaser Array. Phasers already have widespread options that many others don't(such as the Terran Task Force set weapon). If you're wanting narrow firing arcs, load up on DCs, DHCs, or DBBs.

    My idea is to make the EssTeeDee Enterprise a skin unlock(similar to shield visuals), only found in a R&D Promo box. Or if as a ship, 4/4 cruiser(not battlecruiser, and not 5/3) with Command and/or Miracle Worker seats on lower end BOFF seats(not full MW or Command). Also in a R&D Promo box.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2019
    The Tier 6 Constitution Class Light Cruiser was the first Triple-Lt.Cmdr ship. The Jem'Hadar Light Battlecruiser was the first ship with a Dual Commander seating. Inspired by this, I go crazy.

    Starship Class Deep Space Exploration Cruiser (T6)
    (I pick the name "Starship" class because that's what it says on the Enterprise's dedication plaque, even though canon states nowadays it's Constitution Class.
    • Bridge Officer Seating
    • Shield Modifier: 1.2
    • Hull Modifier: 1.4
    • Turn Rate: 9
      • Commander Engineering
      • Commander Universal
      • Lt.Science|Miracle Worker
      • Lt.Tactical|Command
      • Ensign Universal|Miracle Worker
    • Consoles: 4 Engineering, 3 Science, 4 Tactical
    • Bonus Power: +5 all Power Levels
    • Weapon Slots: 5 Front, 3 Aft
    • Device Slots: 4
    • Universal Console: Tactical Flyers
      • Passive: Gain +3 to all Power Levels
      • Active: You launch 8 tactical flyers. They will attack your current target or the nearest enemy with phaser beams and target subsystems (weapons) for the next 30 seconds.
    • Starship Mastery Trait: Starfleet's Promise
      • Whenever you or an ally within 10 km is reduced to 50 % or less hull, the target gains an aura of Starfleet's Promise for 15 seconds. This effect can occur only once every 30 seconds per target. The target and all allies within the aura gain a +10 % bonus to all outgoing heals, and increase the recharge rate of all hull and shield healing powers by 25%. Multiple Promises stack, up to a maximum of +50 % to outgoing heals and a +100 % recharge rate.
    Dual Commander Seat, but no Lt.Cmdr seat, but all lower ranked seats have a spec ability.


    Alternate Trait Ideas

    Starship Mastery Trait: Service, Sacrifice, Compassion And Love
    • When activating Subspace Interception, Needs of the Many, Reroute to Hull Containment or Align Shield Frequencies, all your hull and shield healing powers lower their remaining cooldowns by 5 seconds, and you gain a +20 % for all outgoing hull and shield heals for the next 15 seconds. This effect can occur only once very 10 seconds.

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  • nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    Lockbox ship for sure.

    If it is Lobi - which I doubt - it had absolutely 100% better come with this;

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    Bonus points if a little text box appears over a BOff that says "Orange? Really? Ugh!"
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    sophlogimo wrote: »
    After the last episode, I wonder if it will be a carrier, or have at least one hangar deck?

    I wonder that, too. But it seems it would be weird, since there seems to be only one instance in the history of the ship where it had a small shuttle fleet to defend itself. That's why my suggestion above only turns it into a console.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Remember Enterprise was undergoing a Refit. It may have dragged along a plethora of Shuttles and Worker Bees on this emergency mission.
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    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2019
    ltminns wrote: »
    Remember Enterprise was undergoing a Refit. It may have dragged along a plethora of Shuttles and Worker Bees on this emergency mission.
    Yes, I figure that might be one reason to have that many support craft.

    If that was the standard complement for a Constitution Class, the Galaxy Class Cruiser would definitely be a full Carrier in STO. ;)
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  • jr20mb13jr20mb13 Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    i bet its special console/trait will have something to do with a hanger judging last episode. I hope it doesnt have the same style of seating as the TLC, dont want to get the same ship twice on the same character.
    RnD box 100% it will have d7 counterpart too, this was basically confirmed in a live stream a few weeks back.
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    Oh one thing that I want more than anything else for the DSC Connie: the straight pylons from the original concept art.

    The swept back pylons are nice and all and look great on the Refit, but for this design I just prefer the straight ones to the swept back ones.

    ^
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,111 Arc User
    All I know is:
    Star-Trek-Discovery-Enterprise-Bridge.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=738

    ^^^^
    This Bridge interior MUST be made for said Disco-Connie or it's a no go. ;)
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    All I know is:
    Star-Trek-Discovery-Enterprise-Bridge.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=738

    ^^^^
    This Bridge interior MUST be made for said Disco-Connie or it's a no go. ;)

    Hopefully with less glare and not so shiny, I'd have to play wearing sunglasses.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2019
    Hello, I am a Mac
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    And I'm a PC
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  • lostcause212lostcause212 Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited April 2019
    valoreah wrote: »
    Lockbox ship for sure.
    R&D more likely, it was supposed to be in the R&D box that the Mirror Crossfield was released in, but it got pushed back.

    We already know CBS has a rule regarding the Connie and its availability in-game.

    -looks at her 3mil EC-

    OK I'm going to go be sad now.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Oh one thing that I want more than anything else for the DSC Connie: the straight pylons from the original concept art.

    The swept back pylons are nice and all and look great on the Refit, but for this design I just prefer the straight ones to the swept back ones.

    Well, IF it turns out to be an additional skin for the existing (R&D box prize) Constitution class you'll be able to kitbash straight pylons onto it.

    In fact, if it does end up being another skin option for said ship it'll make the 'Temporal Light Cruiser' even more customisable than it already was.

    Provided you're wealthy enough to own both ships at over 1 Billion EC each. :wink:
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  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Hello, I am a Mac
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    And I'm a PC
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    I feel ya.

  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    Lockbox ship for sure.
    R&D more likely, it was supposed to be in the R&D box that the Mirror Crossfield was released in, but it got pushed back.

    We already know CBS has a rule regarding the Connie and its availability in-game.

    -looks at her 3mil EC-

    OK I'm going to go be sad now.

    *pat pat*
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  • uiabuiab Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    Lockbox ship for sure.

    If it is Lobi - which I doubt - it had absolutely 100% better come with this;

    enterprise_bridge_in_discovery.png

    yeah, it feels... luxurious.
    I'm afraid the ship in game will be rather expensive.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Just came out of refit (207 to 430 crew as well).
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • jagdtier44jagdtier44 Member Posts: 376 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    Lockbox ship for sure.
    R&D more likely, it was supposed to be in the R&D box that the Mirror Crossfield was released in, but it got pushed back.

    We already know CBS has a rule regarding the Connie and its availability in-game.

    100% without a doubt R&D pack, there's no reason to believe Cryptic won't put it out in the most expensive to aquire package possible along with the TOS Connie and the 2 Discoverys.

    And no we don't know CBS has that rule, all I've seen is forum goers saying it. I find it much more likely Cryptic simply knows people are going to shell out absurd levels of $$ to get it and this is their best short term money gain on the big ships. If you can point me to something from a Dev stating that CBS has said they could produce these ships but they have to be behind the games largest paywall to ensure maximum money gains.. er i mean 'rarity' than maybe I'll change my stance on it, but I find the idea preposterous.

    which seems far more likely?

    Cryptic - These ship licenses are expensive, and these people just shelled out tons on the dreadnoughts. Lets put the Connies in the RD box for max $$

    CBS - Yes this board room of execs has decided that in your star trek online game that the Constitution class of starships should be really rare since it's main line ship. No these people have no idea about your game but we've all decided we can't be breaking a canon feel and thus your licenses is provisioned with a rarity cause. Please make sure you make it so expensive to acquire that it will meet this rarity
  • ancientfighterancientfighter Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    I'm not watching DSC series, but I've heard that the story is based on the timeline before to that of Cap Kirk,
    so we have in the game Kevin that is from the universe altered (movie) and the temporal R&D that is from the original universe, here is the question:
    if the Enterprise was from Pike and then was passed to Kirk means the Temporal R&D is the DSC Connie in the end, no?
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