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Cooldown reduction for Assessed Stratagems in rep or choice in other queues

craig76craig76 Member Posts: 772 Arc User
edited February 2 in Reputation System
Sorry if this has been requested before, but couldn't find an answer anywhere, so thought i'd request it myself :).
I been finding when queuing up for competitive games to get the assessed stratagems, that, no one plays the competitive games. Longest i've waited, is probably about half an hour to an hour while i went off doing other things ingame, like looking on exchange or crafting or something.
Speaking to others on FB and ingame chat, i'm getting the same response, that no one plays the missions to get the stratagems.
FIRST IDEA/ Just a thought, but since no one plays these games, and it does make it hard to get the gear from said rep, any chance the devs can reduce the cooldown to get the gems from within the rep itself by turning in marks?
Currently its a 20 hour cooldown. I was thinking maybe one every half hour. That would be roughly be about 10-15 minutes longer than doing 1 mission from the queue. This would just make it a bit easier for us to get the gear from within the rep, instead of just getting one gem a day, or maybe 2 if we are lucky if we do the hourly rep project that provides a box we open.
If this is implemented, to help stop people from abusing the system, my other thought was, because people might get the clever idea of claiming the gems via the rep, then start abusing it by joining the queues to get even more, i suggest, implement a cooldown timer of 24 hours on rep queues if we claim just one single gem from within the rep. And likewise, if we join just one single queue and finish the queue, there will be a 24 hour cooldown to stop us from claiming any gems at all. If we exit the queue just after it starts, it will be treated as if we have completed it. If you get disconnected, then that's too bad. This is an idea, to curb abuse of the system.
This idea is to try to help us gain gems as quickly as we can get the other reps.... special currency i will call it,(Elite marks was the term i was looking for lol), but also to curb abusers for the competitive games reputation only!.
All other reps will remain as they are. Again, this idea is for competitive games only.
It's the above, OR...
SECOND IDEA/ the devs implement stratagems to be accessible across ALL PvE queues. Which, would probably be a better idea. So, no matter what queue we do, we will be able to get those gems.
I am one person, that has many, many toons. And getting those gems across all my toons, will be painfully slow as the current systems stands for competitive games.
So, if the devs agree and people throw their support into one of these ideas, then hopefully we can gain some traction on it and see these gems more easily accessed.

I understand also that some people dont even bother with the rep itself or the gear in the rep, or both. That is fine. But this is for those who do want to get up to rank 6 of the rep and to also get the gear.
Hopefully tho, we will see some positive comments below :)
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  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,372 Arc User
    They should just scrap the "elite marks" completely. They only exist to try to force people to play specific TFOs in an attempt to acquire them. Instead, they do nothing but frustrate newer players who need them because those TFOs never pop, leaving the only means of getting them spending 100 marks per Elite mark, per day and hoping random chance throws a few your way every century or so.
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  • craig76craig76 Member Posts: 772 Arc User
    "Elite marks", that was the term i was looking for, not "Special currency" :). Wasnt in game and had mind blank at time of writing this lol.
    Well, yeah, thats another option the devs could look at, but, i somehow dont think they would do that.
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  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,372 Arc User
    Lol, the only reason I remember the term is that Elite marks were (maybe still are) mentioned in a number of places long after they quit calling them Elite Marks. After a long time of wondering why I wasn't ever receiving my Elite Marks, that I had no clue what to do with at the time anyway, I finally did a Google search
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  • craig76craig76 Member Posts: 772 Arc User
    I havent played for a while. Just came back from a break, thats probably why i had a mind blank at the time :)
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  • craig76craig76 Member Posts: 772 Arc User
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    I don't even know why they're called "marks". Marks are, well, marks. Scratchings on a board. These are actual physical thingummies and widgets that clog up space in your inventory.

    Why do they even need to take up inventory space, given that we cannot trade or even move them and thus there is no actual reason they need to be an inventory slot since we can't put them anywhere but our inventory anyway?

    I was just thinking the same thing when reading your post lol.
    In a way, they are a form of currency. Currency that can only be used in reps. Where do all our other currencies go? In the "Assets" tab of the inventory where they dont take up inventory space. So really, along with the actual rep and fleet marks, they should just show up as numbers in the assets tab.
    So, thats a good point you have there ruin :)
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  • craig76craig76 Member Posts: 772 Arc User
    edited February 12
    So, in about 2 and a half weeks, on my main toon alone, i have managed to collect 22 gems from this rep. Thats using the hourly and daily rep projects and getting the odd random gem here and there. Also been using the daily one to turn marks into a gem for about 2 weeks now, or just under.
    This REALLY needs to have either the gems included across ALL TFO's so we can choose either the gems as the elite mark, or whatever we normally get from the mission we are doing for whatever rep, i.e; task force omega or terran empire reps,etc.. OR the cooldown needs to be altered on the daily turn marks into gems so the cooldown is about half an hour. I think that is still too slow because when you look at the fact that each mission that gives these can go for about 15 minutes, you can actually get 2 gems. But we cant because no one plays the missions. So, i thought, to be reasonable, we make the cooldown half hour.
    Otherwise, I can not see myself even bothering to do this rep on all my toons. Its already painfully far too slow to gain the gems just on one toon, let alone multiple toons.
    I'm starting to see why people dont even bother with it, and it is unfortunate because some of the gear does look good.
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  • craig76craig76 Member Posts: 772 Arc User
    arionisa wrote: »
    They should just scrap the "elite marks" completely. They only exist to try to force people to play specific TFOs in an attempt to acquire them. Instead, they do nothing but frustrate newer players who need them because those TFOs never pop, leaving the only means of getting them spending 100 marks per Elite mark, per day and hoping random chance throws a few your way every century or so.

    Its been a long time since i done any of the projects. I only just started doing the competitive one and the gamme one for the most part when i came back.
    Then, i decided, i should start leveling them all up to tier 6. So i been doing that. And found, that maybe you are right, and that they should be scrapped. Because i noticed there were 2 reps that dont even have the elite marks. I never really took much notice til i brought up this topic here on the forums.
    The Romulan rep, and Nukara rep are the ones that dont have them.
    Or they could just abolish the elite mark for the competitive games only.
    Or reduce the cooldown timer or make them available in other queues like i suggested....or leave it as is....which will probably be the case anyway lol :)
    I am still a looonnnggg way off from getting the rest of those gems i need to have to get the gear i want from the rep though. And this is just on one toon lol.
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  • qqqqiiqqqqii Member Posts: 401 Arc User
    Convert 100 standard marks to 1 elite mark, once per day. It's on the 'upgrade' tab in each rep.
  • craig76craig76 Member Posts: 772 Arc User
    edited April 16
    And if you read through the forums, you will see that i have said i am doing just that. But to claim something like 105 of them, is 105 days. Bit over 3 months is far too long for 1 character, let alone multiple characters. Considering i can get that many from other reps in about 2 or 3 days from doing tfo's. But since no one does tfo's for this particular rep, something should be done. Hence, why i posted this thread to begin with normal-3.gif[img][/img]normal-28.gif​​
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  • feliseanfelisean Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited April 16
    just get your ship/character to a decent state (no rep gear required for that). getting elite marks is defnitly not difficult. for the competitive elite marks, the usual queue is binary circuit elite and promoting them in dedicated pve channels ;)

    if you need help with your ship/character, feel free to ask me ingame (@felisean) or check out sto-league.com for builds/guides and stuff like that ;)
  • craig76craig76 Member Posts: 772 Arc User
    edited May 9
    Getting the elite marks for the Competitive games rep, is difficult, because no one does the tfo's for that rep. So the only other way to get the marks, is to convert 100 normal marks into an elite mark every 20 hours. As i said earlier in thread, to do this to get each bit of gear in the rep store, will take about 105 days.
    That is for ONE character! I have multiple characters, so, 105 days for multiple characters, will take me years to get the gear. There is only 365 days in a year. Its impossible to do every single character in one day.
    This is why i am asking the devs to either remove the elite marks from competitive games only, or to dramatically reduce the cooldown on getting the gems from within the rep. normal-4.gif

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