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I am Referring to ships like the Voth Citadel ship and the iconian Iaidon Capital Ship you know the massive ships players can't use yet? well i was wondering if the development team intends to allow players to fly these ships in the near future. i admire how STO is designing new ships and all but there are people who favor the old yet very popular ships that they cant use yet.
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I am sure it will happen though because huge ships sell well.
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A Voth Citadel ship would have to be navigated using a mouse "go here", "orbit that" type interface. Turning these things directly would ruin the sense of scale, bulk and momentum they should have.
Then, they're just too big to fit on STO's maps. You can't have these things warping in and occupying space at the usual communal warp in areas. What do you do if two people warp in to one map with them? They ARE a map in their own right.
I LOVE my universe class.
Terrible idea.
Firstly, just too big.
Secondly, queue the inevitable complaints about 'Cryptic dropping the ball' because the ships don't get the turn-rate (because unless a ship turns on a dime it's no good), consoles (because it should have 10 tac consoles) and weapon slots (because it's not got 30 slots) that players think it should have.
Thirdly, queue complaints because their humungous ship got taken down in 5 seconds by an NX.
But this goes in line with what Dev's have said before about Borg Cubes. They'd probably have to increase the distance the camera could zoom out, IF the engine will allow it.
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I would prefer smaller ships, really. The ships you mention are massive objects in space that can make it hard to fly around them on a crowded map. The last time I was at DS9, the game tried to put my ship and something huge that had just warped in in the same space, it was that crowded. Just finding your own mid size ship outside a busy port can sometimes be a problem, and the Faeht intel warbird isn't that small, actually! Maybe make those really insanely huge ships something rare and very special. (Not this thread, but what I would really like to see is the Romulan scout ship from TNG "The Defector").
A gross exaggeration.
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Me too!.. also my durgath and my Vonph
As an aside there used to be an app called star control that let you use the ipad as a controller, even had an Lcars skin option, which wasn't bad but ultimately you were still piloting via a keyboard despite using touch controls.
And of course lets not forget rikers £20 joystick....
Either way, yes, I support bringing BIG ships into game. Even though we already have scaling problem.....but thats neither here nor there.
That being said, large ships do have certain game play problems when it comes to the spawn in point in social zones and even in maneuvering in some missions. I personally believe that the Universe is larger then what should be used for player ships, but obviously that's just my opinion. I can see certain game play problems should ships ever exceed that size.
I just don't see something the size of a Citadel ship being realistic as a player option.
l don't know.
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Voth City Village Ship?
I agree the visual FX would be crazy. But I personally play on my TV, so personally think that would be cool!
And regarding the 48 fighters...you forget the game mechanics right now for hanger pets.....sucks. Gotta figure about 1/2 wont ever engage bc they are just....bored? I don't know whats up. Plus they tend to be drawn to warp core explosions like bugs to a zapper.
BUT, why aren't there TRUE carriers in this game? A spec'd carrier has one more hanger (and much less weaponry and tact consoles) than quite a few cruisers or the like that have 1 hanger bay. Really? Thats a carrier?
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
But does it run on bio-dilithium? or strictly solar powered?
So you're just after a lazy "I win" ship. But there are carriers in-game and they're 'balanced' so they're not too OP.
You can always get the Scorpion Fighter Hangar Device which gives you a max total of 18, plus on the Jem Carrier, the two Wingmen and Ship-Sep pet for 21.
Even then the Universe class is like a ant compared to the Voth city ships...I just see no possible way for a player to ever pilot it unless they release a ship that is small fraction of the size of a real one.
But I imagine a fair bit of the people who want to fly these things want theirs jumbo, which I cant see happening. The Sarcophagus already has a turn rate of 4....what are these going to be? 1....2 tops...less?
A) no? and carriers generally aren't really balanced, hence they don't get flown a lot per capita.
C) The current model (generally) has been to remove two weapons for the extra hanger slot. Hence I offered to remove two more (kinda a massive cripple) to add more hanger slots. In a revision though I would agree, that removing two weapons would prob only fairly gain two hanger slots for a total of 4. Not unbalanced as a T6 ship with only 4 weapons but 4 hangers would be about right. And the point defense can't be used against other player ships, they would be against other fighters and targetable torpedoes. Taking it down to only 2 weapon slots TOTAL would be more balanced for 6 - 8 hanger slots. Again, with only 2 or 4 weapon slots, and I would also propose maybe only 2 tac slots, and 5/5 eng and sci slots, the "carrier" is designed to be able to defend itself PERIOD against anything, but not really engage other capital ships itself.
I think it would be a different and fun game play. Yes, carrier vs carrier battles would be a dang disco light show...but it would look COOL. And having the extra hangers you could have heavy bombers (frigates) with medium and light escorts. And since the hanger pets are kinda horrible to control, and die a lot, I don't think it would be OP. Again, with 2 forward weapons and 2 aft, or 1 and 1.....the carrier isn't really doing much itself. But it would have hull plating and shield buffs and the point defense array so would be an actual Carrier. Sit back, launch fighters, spend you time individually controlling each group to promote damage and survivability, etc.