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so I've been discussing it with people in the facebook sto group and on the public service channel, and we all have the same conclusion:
The Borg are supposed to be the ultimate big bad of Star Trek. However, when we encounter them, we sneeze and they explode. It's been something like 7 years since they were intro'd to STO, and they haven't adapted one new piece of technology, offensively or defensively? I think it would be a great idea to relaunch the borg with new technology, with newly assimilated romulan, klingon, and federation ships and technology... Cubes and spheres with battle cloak, things along those lines.
What are your thoughts on this?
The Borg are supposed to be the ultimate big bad of Star Trek. However, when we encounter them, we sneeze and they explode. It's been something like 7 years since they were intro'd to STO, and they haven't adapted one new piece of technology, offensively or defensively? I think it would be a great idea to relaunch the borg with new technology, with newly assimilated romulan, klingon, and federation ships and technology... Cubes and spheres with battle cloak, things along those lines.
What are your thoughts on this?
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I would love to see them become the 'baddest of the bad' like they should be. A truly dangerous foe that all other races of the galaxy fear and want to avoid at all costs.
My proposal.. that I know won't happen..
After T'ket separates from the whole of the Iconian Race they then fall victim to the Borg. The Borg assimilate T'Ket and his minions learning the ancient secrets of the Iconians and becoming a truly powerful threat. They combine the mammoth Vonph Dreadnought with the Borg Cubes and make huge ships that take entire teams to drop.
Again, I know it won't happen, but I would like to see it. The big problem is that it would bring a spike in difficulty that might give some players issues. Maybe they could do something where only one of the most powerful ships appears in any content lower then Elite Difficulty just so it's not impossible for people to play.
I need to get Species 8472 on speed dial!
Though if the Borg are brought back they would need a overhaul over merely a numerical upgrade, like a rework to implement ta fact of how they could adapt to the weapons an shields used against them into space, but with the different conflicts we have had with quite technologically advanced enemies it is possible for them to get a hold of some tech that could push them forward. As said if they assimilated a dyson sphere (now that would be an interesting story arc and even new battle-zone), or just even went out into the battlefields we have been defeating our enemies on, they could assimilate alot of tech quite easily. I could see a Borg assimilate something like a Vaadwaur/Elach ship an thru that technology regain thier ability to adapt via just how advanced the tech is compared to their own, not sure a Borg could actually assimilate a Iconian/Herald ship or being yet.
Resistance is monetised, your credit cards and pocket lint will be added to our own.
How many times can you listen to the words "Resistance in futile" when it has been proven it isn't?
Short of getting the rights somehow to Armada 2 and throwing fusion cubes at us...is there really anything the devs can give the Borg to do?
Also... as mentioned above... the Borg are in the position of being essentially the punching bag of the galaxy now. We're the ones who have adapted not only technology, but TACTICS. We're the ones who have advanced to the point we're on par with the Borg short of them throwing their entire armada at us all at once.
The Borg only improve their tech when they can assimilate what others have made. It gets pretty hard to assimilate when you get blown up before you can do it.
While assimilation is one of the greatest strengths of the Borg... its also their greatest WEAKNESS. They don't innovate. They don't really learn from their mistakes. They only advance by stealing from others and adapting what is useful to serve their needs. Meanwhile the rest of the galaxy actually does research, learns, advances, adapts...
The Borg... are stagnant. We're not. They are a literal shadow of their former strength because we've learned HOW to fight them effectively. And clearly if they haven't adapted to our technology... its not just our technology whuppin' their Collective Butts. Its our Tactics.
The Borg are straight forward bricks. They fly in like they own the place and assume they will win because of superior technology. "Resistance is Futile". But time and time again we prove them wrong. And the Borg have not learned from that. The age of Borg Dominance is over. The younger races have risen up and told them "No". In some cases rather dramatically.
"One bee sting is an annoyance, but a hundred can kill."
The bee stings on the Collective are stacking up.
But then STO has a long habit of making up 99% new things. Does it really make that much difference if they pluck a few names off canon and then make up everything else? Like they did with the iconians, the tzenkethi, etc.
Heh, really? There's plenty of material left.
All it needs is a bit of creativity. There's plenty of material left for new arcs. Breen? Terran Invasion? Gorn Rebels? Alliance Civil War?
If they have us fight smeerps from planet Smeer that are completely made up by Cryptic, what's the difference to fighting tzenkethi from the planet Tzenketh that got named in canon but otherwise made up by Cryptic?
Of course, Memory-Alpha does lists 553 sentient species for them to expand on, so not like they'll run out of names to quote anytime soon:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Species
There are still a number of potentially campaign-sized threads Cryptic has not explored. One that comes to mind, (and would also make a good vehicle for the renewed AoY recruiting event they keep hinting at) would be following up on the flying fried eggs that attacked Deneva.
It is possible that while everyone was focused on the trouble the Iconians were causing, the blastonerons spread in some out of the way corner of the galaxy which had an advanced civilization or two and reached a critical density necessary for whatever the plans of the controlling intelligence in the Greater Magellanic cloud are and there could be an infiltration by the controlled civilizations that is discovered and a war similar to the Iconian one starts again. And there are other possibilities as well.
Or how about some story arcs focusing on some of the various worlds around the galaxy such as Trill or Ferenginar? Can't go wrong with more ferengi content! And Trill is ripe for a story arc given the controversies and Taboo's in Trill society that was depicted in DS9.
And how about a proper Cardassian story arc? Seeing as the original story arc was reduced to little more than a footnote that had more to do with the Mirror Universe and the Dominion than it did with Cardassia and Cardassian politics.
There's clearly plenty of material to draw from in old star trek, to claim otherwise is just pure nonsense.
And here's another radical thought, how about an expansion focused on life aboard starships? I.E a complete overhaul of how starship interiors are set up in order to actually make them functional and able to be integrated into missions and serve a purpose to some extent. That alone is worthy of an entire expansion. And its something that has been requested since before STO even launched over 8 years ago.
Yes, that ties in nicely. It does not prevent a modern time arc featuring the blastonerons in any way however since the ultimate source of the things is never tracked down and stopped. It is also a good way to tie the player character into the thread in a major way since they would be one of the few to actually have any direct contact with the things.
I do believe in the books their was a empire or alliance of really powerful an highly developed psionic races, which comes about during a period of warfare between psionicly capable races. An that part of the reason we do not see as many psionically powerful an developed races is a side effect of this alliance, and the fall out from the psionic war from that era.