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T6 ship similar performance to undine nicor bio-warship?

jaephjaeph Member Posts: 77 Arc User
My nicor is turning out to be fun with dual heavy cannons. It's a tad more tanky than most of my escorts, but still have the forward fire power. I also like the boff seating.

Is there a t6 ship (fed) that has similar performance? Trades a bit of manuever for a bit of tanky?

-Jeff

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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    pryor#5476 wrote: »
    I looked up your T5 ship, it's performing at T6 lvl........ actually a good ship, I'm going to get one myself.
    The only ship that comes to mind is the Temporal Dreadnought
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Chronos_Temporal_Dreadnought_Cruiser

    I'm gonna disagree with this, the chonos has very little in common with the nicor.

    the Theseus Temporal Escort at fleet level is far closer.

    your not gonna find a perfect match til cryptic makes a t-6 nicor which may not happen for quite some time if ever.

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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    Going to agree with nightken here. I fly the Chronos on a few of my characters and it turns a bit slow to use DHCs to me.

    That said, it is hard to kill.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    Yeah, obviously the Chronos is nothing like the Nicor.. just more bad advice from Pryor that you can go ahead and ignore.

    You're looking for something tough but maneuverable.. something that can run cannons and move well but still take a beating right?

    While there is no 'perfect match' since there is no T6 version of that ship you can really just try and get as close as possible. One option might be the Hazari Destroyer. Not a perfect match but it's close..it does have more firepower but probably won't be quite as tanky.

    If you're looking C-Store for a fed there is always the Arbiter Battlecruiser which honestly brings an unmatched balance of toughness and firepower. If you use the bundled console it's a 'get out of jail free' card that can save you with the click of a button. Combine it with something like the Protomatter console from the Lukari Event ship and it's full commander Engineering station and you can tank for days in this thing. It has 5 forward weapons, great for cannons and while it's 9 turn rate is lower then you're used to it's still easy enough to keep cannons on target. I fly one in a cannon build and I am honestly not the best cannon pilot at all.. but I am still able to keep it on target easy enough. All this doesn't even take into account the fact that it has one of the best traits in the game. It's one of the few ships in STO I consider a 'must have.'

    If you're looking to do cannons, I really recommend something with 5 forward weapons. It's not required.. obviously you're already doing just fine with 4, but 5 forward really helps take powerful cannon builds and push them over the top. If you're willing to go something bigger and slower but tough and powerful then the Kelvin Intel Dreadnought is an option to consider. It's power is pretty much unmatched on the Fed Side.

    Other ships to consider are the Maquis Raider which won't be nearly as tough as the Nicor but will clear a map in seconds, or the T6 NX Refit which might just be the perfect Escort/Destroyer. They're both Lobi ships, so it's best to acquire them from the Exchange.

    If none of those fit your need, we can keep looking. :smile:
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  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 644 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    You're looking for something tough but maneuverable.. something that can run cannons and move well but still take a beating right?

    If that's the description we're going for, I'd like to suggest another Lobi ship in the form of the Klein Temporal Destroyer.

    It fits all of the quoted requirements and, in my opinion at least, is one of the best-looking ships in the game if that's a consideration.
  • jaephjaeph Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    Thanks all.

    Lobi ships (and things for 250M on the exchange) are really not in my budget right now. I was looking at the krenim imperium warship on the wiki - it seems to fit well, but again, too rich for my blood right now.

    Looking at a lot of things (more than just this thread), all my roads seem to lead to the battlecruiser pack (arbiter, kurak, morrigu), as I have 2 mains, and will level my rommie at some point. They are all good ships, have a great trait, and a useful console. Just levelling the arbiter will make my nicor better.

    -Jeff

    P.S. The thing I like about the nicor is that it seems to fit my flying style well. I do fine in escorts, but I do blow up a lot. In the nicor, I seem to get away to range 10 (and thus safety) with <10% hull and no shields rather than blow up. So it's just maneuverable enough, and just tough enough, for what I want.

    P.P.S. I definitely understand and agree with the 5 gun advice. That's where I've been looking.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,309 Arc User
    Obviously the Arbiter has a more offensive profile and a trait which is hard to ignore and thus it is a hard choice to ignore.
    However i feel the Eclipse also deserves a mention:
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Eclipse_Intel_Cruiser

    Less bulky than other cruisers, but enough tricks up its sleeves to hit hard.
    The console also offers a nice bit of survivability:
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Console_-_Universal_-_Structural_Integrity_Field_Siphon
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    jaeph wrote: »

    Looking at a lot of things (more than just this thread), all my roads seem to lead to the battlecruiser pack (arbiter, kurak, morrigu), as I have 2 mains, and will level my rommie at some point. They are all good ships, have a great trait, and a useful console. Just levelling the arbiter will make my nicor better.




    For what it's worth, I really think that Battle Cruiser pack is a fantastic choice.. to me it's the best pack in the C-Store. It's 3 really great ships with useful consoles and great traits. People here know I am always hyping these ships and perhaps I have a bias, I am just convinced they're great ships. Rather you do Drake Builds, Aux2Bat, run Beams, Cannons.. whatever.. they can do it and they're among the best at all of it.I think you'll be really happy with that purchase. It will make all of your characters better and as you said.. even if you end up not liking the Arbiter for some reason, you can use the Trait on your Nicor.

    I have an Engineer that runs a Fleet Arbiter using Cannons and it's a great ship, always fun to fly. She isn't really built to do massive damage, but she can still clear maps with ease in the Arbiter. She's also tough as nails in that ship and doesn't blow up much at all. The ship just has a really good balance of power and durability. I hope you like it.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
    The Cardassian Intel escort is something to consider, great cannon boat
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    • postinggumpostinggum Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
      The T6 nx seems liked by people that have it and has a lot of boff flexibility, decent trait and console that is part of a powerful but expensive set.
      https://sto.gamepedia.com/NX_Escort_Refit

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    • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
      Something totally random here and maybe a bit too pricey but what about the Temporal Destroyer?

      The T6 version is pretty cheap if you watch the market and it has all of what you want i think, plus it has a universal Lt Cmdr seat that could aid with the survival or be swapped to sci or tac if you found you were not dying too much. It's pretty nippy for an escort too, though not up to raider levels obviously.
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    • postinggumpostinggum Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
      Maybe you need a bit more durability, things like the honoured dead trait and nakhul ultra rare warfare doff could make the difference.
    • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
      azrael605 wrote: »
      Isn't there a T6 version of the Nicor?

      Not yet there isn't. But with the next infinity lockbox due in a month it may get an upgrade then, you just never know.
      Only things left to update are the Tholian, Hirogen, Undine and Voth boxes.
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    • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
      lordsteve1 wrote: »
      azrael605 wrote: »
      Isn't there a T6 version of the Nicor?

      Not yet there isn't. But with the next infinity lockbox due in a month it may get an upgrade then, you just never know.
      Only things left to update are the Tholian, Hirogen, Undine and Voth boxes.

      I'm guessing the tholian and voth boxs are higher priority then hirogen and undine, actually considering there was a little drama about the undine ships when they first come out it wouldn't sutprise me if they are the last thing to get updated.

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    • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
      I wonder if there will ever be a T6 Malon Battlecruiser.
    • casualstocasualsto Member Posts: 672 Arc User
      The Recon Fed Destroyer is something you should give a serious look if that's your thing.
    • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
      I think the chimera destroyer is right in line minus one aft weapon slot. But that is offset by the experimental weapon
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    • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
      the destroyer should rotate when the lotus fires. if you are gonna rip off the last starfighter you may as well really rip it off
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