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Will Jem'hadar Faction get its own Artillery ships and Pilot Fighter?

lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
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Will Jem'hadar Faction get its own Artillery ships and Pilot Fighters?

I'm refering to the Command Boff power that summons Faction specific Artillery Ships and the Pilot boff power that summons Pilot Fighters.

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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    TOSlings don't have anything unique in that regard, neither Boarding Party shuttles nor fleet support or command power ships. Do Romulans? Because Jems will probably be more like Roms
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    davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    They should. Any ship the three Major powers have the Dominion should also have an equivalent.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    I'm pretty sure they would do that for Jem'Hadar. TOS Feds kinda make sense that they don't as they are still Fed. HOWEVER... many of the standard BOff powers have TOS versions available as well through K-13 fleet holding. I don't know if Boarding Party is part of it, but Tac, Engie, and Sci Teams are and have different visuals. Same with Tractor Beam.

    I'm looking forward to a Polaron Orbital Strike. :D
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    crypticspartan#0627 crypticspartan
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    lordgyor wrote: »
    Will Jem'hadar Faction get its own Artillery ships and Pilot Fighters?

    I'm refering to the Command Boff power that summons Faction specific Artillery Ships and the Pilot boff power that summons Pilot Fighters.

    Yes - this should already be the case on Tribble.
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure they would do that for Jem'Hadar. TOS Feds kinda make sense that they don't as they are still Fed. HOWEVER... many of the standard BOff powers have TOS versions available as well through K-13 fleet holding. I don't know if Boarding Party is part of it, but Tac, Engie, and Sci Teams are and have different visuals. Same with Tractor Beam.

    I'm looking forward to a Polaron Orbital Strike. :D

    It is a very pretty purple indeed. :)
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    i'm just waiting on the vet destroyer - polaron lotus, baby​​
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    > @rattler2 said:
    > I'm pretty sure they would do that for Jem'Hadar. TOS Feds kinda make sense that they don't as they are still Fed. HOWEVER... many of the standard BOff powers have TOS versions available as well through K-13 fleet holding. I don't know if Boarding Party is part of it, but Tac, Engie, and Sci Teams are and have different visuals. Same with Tractor Beam.
    >
    > I'm looking forward to a Polaron Orbital Strike. :D

    TOS fleet support, photonic fleet and security escort would have greatly improved visual and audible diversity. I do think it was a mistake to not grant this.
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    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    The downside to Fleet Support/Photo Fleet is that there is no TOS equivelent to the Command Cruisers that get summoned unless they somehow make an NPC version of the Prototype Dreadnought.

    The Security Escort... yea I can see that being a nice flavor change. But they had BETTER make them Redshirts rather than just Tactical, which technically would be gold in TOS uniforms.
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    I think it's "just" (I know nothing is as easy in programming) a model switch. The photonic CBCs aren't "real" CBC mobs as they don't use any abilities. They are still Typhoon mobs that got a skin swap. Fleet support is the same as they don't use pets. The proto dread would indeed be the equivalent to that.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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    lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @rattler2 said:
    > The downside to Fleet Support/Photo Fleet is that there is no TOS equivelent to the Command Cruisers that get summoned unless they somehow make an NPC version of the Prototype Dreadnought.
    >
    > The Security Escort... yea I can see that being a nice flavor change. But they had BETTER make them Redshirts rather than just Tactical, which technically would be gold in TOS uniforms.

    By the time you get fleet support your already in the current timeline.
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    lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @crypticspartan#0627 said:
    > lordgyor wrote: »
    >
    > Will Jem'hadar Faction get its own Artillery ships and Pilot Fighters?
    >
    > I'm refering to the Command Boff power that summons Faction specific Artillery Ships and the Pilot boff power that summons Pilot Fighters.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Yes - this should already be the case on Tribble.
    > rattler2 wrote: »
    >
    > I'm pretty sure they would do that for Jem'Hadar. TOS Feds kinda make sense that they don't as they are still Fed. HOWEVER... many of the standard BOff powers have TOS versions available as well through K-13 fleet holding. I don't know if Boarding Party is part of it, but Tac, Engie, and Sci Teams are and have different visuals. Same with Tractor Beam.
    >
    > I'm looking forward to a Polaron Orbital Strike. :D
    >
    >
    >
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    > It is a very pretty purple indeed. :)

    Awesome thank you.
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    tomgonjinn23tomgonjinn23 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    i'm just waiting on the vet destroyer - polaron lotus, baby​​

    Yeah I completely forgot about that. Yeah a Jem'Hadar 1000 day ship would be a great addition. Haven't heard anything about an upcoming one though.
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    tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    tomgonjinn23 wrote: »
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    i'm just waiting on the vet destroyer - polaron lotus, baby​​

    Yeah I completely forgot about that. Yeah a Jem'Hadar 1000 day ship would be a great addition. Haven't heard anything about an upcoming one though.

    They said there won't be one at launch, so you might be waiting a while.
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    mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    crypticspartan#0627 wrote: »
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Will Jem'hadar Faction get its own Artillery ships and Pilot Fighters?

    I'm refering to the Command Boff power that summons Faction specific Artillery Ships and the Pilot boff power that summons Pilot Fighters.

    Yes - this should already be the case on Tribble.
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure they would do that for Jem'Hadar. TOS Feds kinda make sense that they don't as they are still Fed. HOWEVER... many of the standard BOff powers have TOS versions available as well through K-13 fleet holding. I don't know if Boarding Party is part of it, but Tac, Engie, and Sci Teams are and have different visuals. Same with Tractor Beam.

    I'm looking forward to a Polaron Orbital Strike. :D

    It is a very pretty purple indeed. :)

    Sry to bother you with this, but I have a question, speaking of purple and polaron, and regarding the new vanguard gunboats hangar pets, why they use standard polaron flavor? In the show the jem'hadar ships used phased polarons flavor actually. Can we have the pets updated with these, or at least with dominion polaron flavor instaid of vanilla? Many hangar pets use their faction specific flavor like iconian herald hangar pets, elachi hangar pets and so on...
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    edited May 2018
    lordgyor wrote: »
    By the time you get fleet support your already in the current timeline.

    Which is a nonsense argument (always has been, from the beginning) since your character still uses TOS transporter effects, tricorders and phasers. The whole AoY "expansion" wasn't thought through at all. Besides, TOS ships are T6 and completely en-par with "modern" ones, thanks to "temporal shenenigans".​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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    lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @ruinthefun said:
    > rattler2 wrote: »
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    > The downside to Fleet Support/Photo Fleet is that there is no TOS equivelent to the Command Cruisers that get summoned unless they somehow make an NPC version of the Prototype Dreadnought.
    >
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    > I can't see why that would be hard to do. It's the same ship, only with the TOSidio skin slapped on it.

    I have no objection, just guessing at Cryptics possible reasons.
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    warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    The downside to Fleet Support/Photo Fleet is that there is no TOS equivelent to the Command Cruisers that get summoned unless they somehow make an NPC version of the Prototype Dreadnought.

    The Security Escort... yea I can see that being a nice flavor change. But they had BETTER make them Redshirts rather than just Tactical, which technically would be gold in TOS uniforms.
    The more interesting option would be to let players create their own Photonic/Fleet Support ships and Security Escorts.
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