because i think the carrier they just added is really smexy, but it is also the only ship in the pack that i am even the slightest bit interested in, provided the stats are decent that is.
To my knowledge, every time a pack with ships like this has come out, they've become available (or were at day 1 of the pack's release) on the C-Store.
Examples I can remember:
The delta expansion pack included all the intel ships (and a few others) which are all available on the C-Store.
The Agents of Yesterday pack came with all those T1-5 TOS ships and their future T6 counterparts. All of which are on the C-Store.
Edit: I also think that the Legacy of Romulus pack included all the C-Store Romulan ships at the time.
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To my knowledge, every time a pack with ships like this has come out, they've become available (or were at day 1 of the pack's release) on the C-Store.
Examples I can remember:
The delta expansion pack included all the intel ships (and a few others) which are all available on the C-Store.
The Agents of Yesterday pack came with all those T1-5 TOS ships and their future T6 counterparts. All of which are on the C-Store.
Edit: I also think that the Legacy of Romulus pack included all the C-Store Romulan ships at the time.
Yup, these packs may contain exclusive bonuses (ex. specialist bridge officers, tech upgrades, titles) but the ships and costumes will be available in the c-store. The pack's main draw is offering the whole group at a discount versus picking each one individually.
The T5 Jem'Hadar and Cardassian ships might remain as they are (since they're already available in-game via other mans) but the T6 ships coming we shouldn't have to worry about. The pack's availability on other outlets now is simply a reflection of the fact that the c-store doesn't support pre-orders.
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If the existing ships like the bug or galor do end up in the store they might do what they did with the dysons or the ones from the azure nebula mission and have store version different from the "ingame" version. Either via console that comes with it or boff seats etc.
Not certain. This new 'available to all characters on an account after obtaining full mastery' thing does make me wonder, although perhaps it applies to first character to use it?
I think it's following the faction unique mastery unlock they implemented a while back so you could have mastery's on Klinks you couldn't normally acquire.
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yes but as always if you buy indv. you lose the ability to buy the pack later !!
Starter packs are an exception to that rule. I can still purchase the Delta Operations Pack and Romulan Pack from the C-Store, even though I have multiple ships from both of those packs.
On the T5 former-lockbox ships, if they were only unavailable due to having those ships in large numbers not making sense on non-Cardassian or non-Jem'Hadar characters(which was often given as an excuse back in the day --in mostly hard-to-cite Podcasts lacking transcripts,) then having them C-store available after playable Cardassian and Jem'Hadar should be likely.
Yeah i think it would have to be bought by Jem'Hadar toon and taken to mastery before becoming account unlocked. Im sure the Cardasian ships will be in the store, other than the Galor, but... the New Dominion ships... might be tricky to sell those individually.
Not certain. This new 'available to all characters on an account after obtaining full mastery' thing does make me wonder, although perhaps it applies to first character to use it?
I think it's following the faction unique mastery unlock they implemented a while back so you could have mastery's on Klinks you couldn't normally acquire.
Not sure - it's the wording that gives me pause - from the Pack advertising page:
"This ship is for Dominion Captains only initially"
I have feeling especially since Romulans will now have access to most fed or kdf ships on tribble. That the same thing will happen to Romulan ships.
From what I've been able to figure out on my own...
The Jem'Hadar Vanguard ships are actually going to have 6 mastery levels. The standard 5 for a T6 ship, with the 5th being a starship trait, and the 6th being the faction unlock. So... in order to unlock the ship for non Dominion characters, you need to level said Vanguard ship fully.
Ships in the bundles for new expansions have always been available stand-alone as well, the bundles just happen to have more goodies at a rather decent discount.
> @seriousdave said: > I also doubt that we'll see the JHEC, Jdread and galor in the store but the others for sure.
I feel certain we will see the JHEC, JDread, and Galor in the C-Store, because they will likely be selectable as your T5U C-store ship you get at level 61, just as T5U Defiant, Voyager, Galaxy, B'rel, Kar'fi, Maurader FDC, ect... are, I mean they will need T5 dominion based opinions in the C-store if its to work like it does for the Feds and Klingons and Romulans.
I feel certain we will see the JHEC, JDread, and Galor in the C-Store, because they will likely be selectable as your T5U C-store ship you get at level 61, just as T5U Defiant, Voyager, Galaxy, B'rel, Kar'fi, Maurader FDC, ect... are, I mean they will need T5 dominion based opinions in the C-store if its to work like it does for the Feds and Klingons and Romulans.
If they do... it might be under Promotional, like how the Mirror Guardian, Command Assault Cruiser, and Support Cruiser Refit are. Not part of the main C-Store ships. Just account unlocked Promo and generally unavailable to the public unless certain requirements are met, such as promo codes.
I really don't see how they would release them into the normal C-Store without causing some rage on the forums from the people who dumped a LOT of money during their initial lockbox run to get them.
"I spent about 5000 Zen in keys to get my Galor, now EVERYONE can get one for half that for an ACCOUNT UNLOCK?! HULK SMASH!"
I feel certain we will see the JHEC, JDread, and Galor in the C-Store, because they will likely be selectable as your T5U C-store ship you get at level 61, just as T5U Defiant, Voyager, Galaxy, B'rel, Kar'fi, Maurader FDC, ect... are, I mean they will need T5 dominion based opinions in the C-store if its to work like it does for the Feds and Klingons and Romulans.
If they do... it might be under Promotional, like how the Mirror Guardian, Command Assault Cruiser, and Support Cruiser Refit are. Not part of the main C-Store ships. Just account unlocked Promo and generally unavailable to the public unless certain requirements are met, such as promo codes.
I really don't see how they would release them into the normal C-Store without causing some rage on the forums from the people who dumped a LOT of money during their initial lockbox run to get them.
"I spent about 5000 Zen in keys to get my Galor, now EVERYONE can get one for half that for an ACCOUNT UNLOCK?! HULK SMASH!"
I could see that happening with the much more recent T6s, but the T5s came out a pretty long time ago. I have a T5 JHDC and a JHEC that I got back when they were fairly current and I'd be rather happy if they were made C-Store, personally.
As a person who back in the day spent WAY too much money on keys to get 2 Galors I have no problem with this deprecated ship being added to the c-store bundle, or being sold individually.
You might be fine, but you know there are some people who WILL cry foul over it because reasons.
As a person who back in the day spent WAY too much money on keys to get 2 Galors I have no problem with this deprecated ship being added to the c-store bundle, or being sold individually.
You might be fine, but you know there are some people who WILL cry foul over it because reasons.
It's an MMORPG. Someone always complains. About everything.
> @rattler2 said: > lordgyor wrote: » > > I feel certain we will see the JHEC, JDread, and Galor in the C-Store, because they will likely be selectable as your T5U C-store ship you get at level 61, just as T5U Defiant, Voyager, Galaxy, B'rel, Kar'fi, Maurader FDC, ect... are, I mean they will need T5 dominion based opinions in the C-store if its to work like it does for the Feds and Klingons and Romulans. > > > > > If they do... it might be under Promotional, like how the Mirror Guardian, Command Assault Cruiser, and Support Cruiser Refit are. Not part of the main C-Store ships. Just account unlocked Promo and generally unavailable to the public unless certain requirements are met, such as promo codes. > > I really don't see how they would release them into the normal C-Store without causing some rage on the forums from the people who dumped a LOT of money during their initial lockbox run to get them. > "I spent about 5000 Zen in keys to get my Galor, now EVERYONE can get one for half that for an ACCOUNT UNLOCK?! HULK SMASH!"
The rage basically> @rattler2 said: > azrael605 wrote: » > > As a person who back in the day spent WAY too much money on keys to get 2 Galors I have no problem with this deprecated ship being added to the c-store bundle, or being sold individually. > > > > > You might be fine, but you know there are some people who WILL cry foul over it because reasons.
Perhaps, but they will be too few for Cryptic to worry about. As we can see from other posters who spent alot to get the 5T galor or JHEC they are okay with it.
Plus we live in a society were people buy gadgets at huge prices early knowing full well that the price for that Smartphone will drop radically when a newer better version comes out.
As the Jem'hadar would say "That is the order of things."
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Examples I can remember:
The delta expansion pack included all the intel ships (and a few others) which are all available on the C-Store.
The Agents of Yesterday pack came with all those T1-5 TOS ships and their future T6 counterparts. All of which are on the C-Store.
Edit: I also think that the Legacy of Romulus pack included all the C-Store Romulan ships at the time.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Yup, these packs may contain exclusive bonuses (ex. specialist bridge officers, tech upgrades, titles) but the ships and costumes will be available in the c-store. The pack's main draw is offering the whole group at a discount versus picking each one individually.
The T5 Jem'Hadar and Cardassian ships might remain as they are (since they're already available in-game via other mans) but the T6 ships coming we shouldn't have to worry about. The pack's availability on other outlets now is simply a reflection of the fact that the c-store doesn't support pre-orders.
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I think it's following the faction unique mastery unlock they implemented a while back so you could have mastery's on Klinks you couldn't normally acquire.
Starter packs are an exception to that rule. I can still purchase the Delta Operations Pack and Romulan Pack from the C-Store, even though I have multiple ships from both of those packs.
The T5s, being discontinued Lockbox/Lobi...
THAT is the question. I'm leaning towards... nope.
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I have feeling especially since Romulans will now have access to most fed or kdf ships on tribble. That the same thing will happen to Romulan ships.
The Jem'Hadar Vanguard ships are actually going to have 6 mastery levels. The standard 5 for a T6 ship, with the 5th being a starship trait, and the 6th being the faction unlock. So... in order to unlock the ship for non Dominion characters, you need to level said Vanguard ship fully.
No chance for the discontinued T5 from lockboxes and lobi stores.
> I also doubt that we'll see the JHEC, Jdread and galor in the store but the others for sure.
I feel certain we will see the JHEC, JDread, and Galor in the C-Store, because they will likely be selectable as your T5U C-store ship you get at level 61, just as T5U Defiant, Voyager, Galaxy, B'rel, Kar'fi, Maurader FDC, ect... are, I mean they will need T5 dominion based opinions in the C-store if its to work like it does for the Feds and Klingons and Romulans.
If they do... it might be under Promotional, like how the Mirror Guardian, Command Assault Cruiser, and Support Cruiser Refit are. Not part of the main C-Store ships. Just account unlocked Promo and generally unavailable to the public unless certain requirements are met, such as promo codes.
I really don't see how they would release them into the normal C-Store without causing some rage on the forums from the people who dumped a LOT of money during their initial lockbox run to get them.
"I spent about 5000 Zen in keys to get my Galor, now EVERYONE can get one for half that for an ACCOUNT UNLOCK?! HULK SMASH!"
I could see that happening with the much more recent T6s, but the T5s came out a pretty long time ago. I have a T5 JHDC and a JHEC that I got back when they were fairly current and I'd be rather happy if they were made C-Store, personally.
You might be fine, but you know there are some people who WILL cry foul over it because reasons.
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Perhaps, but they will be too few for Cryptic to worry about. As we can see from other posters who spent alot to get the 5T galor or JHEC they are okay with it.
Plus we live in a society were people buy gadgets at huge prices early knowing full well that the price for that Smartphone will drop radically when a newer better version comes out.
As the Jem'hadar would say "That is the order of things."