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I want to speak with Perfect world and Cryptic about the unfairness of RNG in Star Trek Online

captainharry#5744 captainharry Member Posts: 3 Arc User
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    szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    This won't end well...

    On a side note: this is a PRIVATE forum. Freedom of speech does not apply here. There are rules and you either follow them or lose the right to post messages. It's as easy as that.
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    tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    freedom of speech is for the US about government censorship... this is a private forum so your freedom goes as far as what the admins allow. as for rng and lock boxes odds... write to your congressman/senator and have em pass legislation...
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    theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
    OP, just drop the matter.
    @starswordc, please can you close this before it becomes a flame
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      leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
      Oh dear........

      You're inviting Forum wrath OP.

      Discussion of Moderation is not allowed. Flaming is not allowed.

      I am personally happy with RNG. I already have an idea of the odds, and it's not what the youtube videos or player pics claim, because I understand the programming of RNG. 'Exotic' lockbox ships are supposed to ultra-rare on purpose, otherwise they would be in the C-Store!
      "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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      bubblegirl2015bubblegirl2015 Member Posts: 830 Arc User
      Poster might be trolling...only 2 posts written.

      In...before the lock.


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      postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
      Wasn't a similar thread closed the other day?

      As for getting rid of RNG's in games... NEVER going to happen. Blizzard pretty much rely on an RNG to keep people playing D3. Likewise games like the XCOM series or indeed that entire genre.

      Best you can hope for is they publish the drop/win chances and stop stuffing the gambleboxes with junk.
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      jrdobbsjr#3264 jrdobbsjr Member Posts: 431 Arc User
      I'd like to hear more about how some ships "take too long to grind for".....that oughta be good.
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      garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
      if we got the ship ones a buyable acc. unlock would be nice.
      ... do not have thousands to put into a video game for a random unrevealed chance at winning. And in addition the grind for some ships can take forever and some people like myself do not have the time to grind for a long time...

      25€ p. month would be fine , buy low - sell high dil. , and infinity boxes and you get everything for free with little effort ...

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      vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
      a simple search of the forum you will find the odds anyway.. and IBTL
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      captainharry#5744 captainharry Member Posts: 3 Arc User
      I am not trolling I am dead serious about this matter!
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      theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
      I am not trolling I am dead serious about this matter!

      still against forum rules, like I clearly said earlier, drop the matter
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        annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,600 Arc User
        edited May 2018
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        iamynaughtiamynaught Member Posts: 1,285 Arc User
        Going to try and be respectful here, apologies if I fail.

        Would I like better odds at getting ships from lockboxes or the Phoenix packs? Sure I would. But, I can live without those ships as long as they continue to essentially give away 3 free T6 ships every year with the Anniversary, Summer and Winter events. They also on occasion give away older T5 ships for special reasons and I'm very happy about that.

        Considering you can get almost EVERYTHING in this game for zero real money spent if you're willing to put in the time, I believe it's just a matter of if you think spending that time working towards a goal is worth it or not. Spending money will obviously speed things along, but never spend more money than you are willing to lose. These are all digital items, and someday, hopefully in the far distant future, the game will shut down and everything that players paid for will simply cease to exist.

        I get being frustrated when you spend time or money and don't get something you want. However, blaming a company for trying to make money, and not in a completely dishonest way, mind you, because you spent more time/money than YOU feel is right, doesn't make you right. You chose to spend your resources in this manner, the company didn't make you.

        If you don't like how the more rare items in the game are harder to get, hence them being rare, perhaps this is not the type of game for you.
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        davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
        Lock boxes are 1 in 250, R & D packs are 1 in 100. Or 100% chance of success if you buy them off of the Exchange for credits.

        Buy keys with zen, sell keys for credits on the exchange, buy ship. No gambling needed.

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        jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,365 Arc User
        You don't want to spend money on keys? Then don't. I buy all mine with EC - they're in the Exchange. Haven't won anything good yet from the boxes, but then again I understand the concept of random chance, so I'm not counting on anything, just hoping occasionally. (Of course, when I finally gather together enough Dil to buy 1500 Zen I can get that new Starter Pack that gives me, among other things, a 2 billion EC cap, so I can finally gather enough EC to just buy the ships I want directly from the Exchange...)

        Also, as I think about the second post in this thread noted, "Freedom of Speech" in the US descends from the First Amendment to the US Constitution, and applies to governmental bodies attempting to shut down certain opinions. This, however, isn't government-run, but rather a privately-owned forum, and they're within their rights as the owners to shut down any doggone thing that they please.
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        lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
        I hate to say it but you want an official line you’d have better chances asking on reddit. Better, mark you, not necessarily a good chance.

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        rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
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        Yup... not gonna end well. Someone else got hit after circumventing a thread close even after making the topic less aggressive.
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        I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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        arliekkosarliekkos Member Posts: 208 Arc User
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        ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,449 Arc User
        Maybe someday, the odds of winng the top prize will be required when opening lock/R&D boxes. But until that happens, making demands like whatvthe OP has done is mot going to do anyhthing productive on gorums.

        Oh, and while we are on the subject of hash-tags...

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