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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,757 Arc User
    Well, the STO lore for the Wadi has them as a race more willing to work with the KDF than the Feds for some reason. They were added along with the Dominion FE series.

    *hunts down the doff missions*

    Wadi Officer Exchange Program: "The High Command has ordered the implementation of officer exchange programs to assist integration of Imperial Protectorates."

    Hunh... so this would seem to suggest that they're more closely allied with KDF than the Dominion in STO.

    Without knowing what the reasons for that protectorate is? The thing is what caused the Dominion war in the first place was incursions into the Gamma quadrant from those in the Alpha and Beta quadrants and it provoked the Dominion.

    It could be possible a few thousand Wadi Refugees left their homeworld and settled in the Alpha or Beta Quadrants and the Klingons made them a protectorate, but again without knowing why. It's just shooting the dark hoping to hit an answer at this point.
    No, this seems to be the Wadi as a whole, since one of the other Wadi related missions is about helping the Wadi find new colony worlds... in the Gamma Q.

    I've gone and looked it up on sto wiki and i'm either looking in the wrong location or it's not there, do you have more proof? sorry, i'm almost convinced you're right but a little more would be nice.
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    Hunh... so this would seem to suggest that they're more closely allied with KDF than the Dominion in STO.
    IIRC, the doff missions have
    -Dosi, Wadi, and Hunters, by affiliated with the KDF
    -Tosk, Paradan, and Karemma affiliate with the Feds
    -Cardassians can be both

    It would be nice if they added those races as playable races for each faction, wouldn't require them making a new faction of anything becuase we know people travel the wormhole all the time since even before the game began, so them being around from the get-go would make sense.
  • marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    - A Cardassian faction with a reworked Cardassian Arc.

    - Gamma Quadrant expansion.
  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    - A Cardassian faction with a reworked Cardassian Arc.
    They already reworked the Cardassian arc, they aren't going to do it again. The only ones left that Cryptic said they might fix up or rework are some of the early Klingon missions like the Warzone and Fek'Ihri arcs, and some minor touchups on the Breen arc
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,757 Arc User
    edited October 2017
    - A Cardassian faction with a reworked Cardassian Arc.
    They already reworked the Cardassian arc, they aren't going to do it again. The only ones left that Cryptic said they might fix up or rework are some of the early Klingon missions like the Warzone and Fek'Ihri arcs, and some minor touchups on the Breen arc

    The Cardassian arc itself is recent but the 2800 arc is fairly old and it could do with an upgrade.
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    The Cardassian arc itself is recent but the 2800 arc is fairly old and it could do with an upgrade.
    IIRC, they have said repeatedly in the past that they wont redo the featured series missions, like Specters, Cloaked Intentions, 2800, because they considered them good enough already. The Breen arc work was stated to be just some minor touchups because it was the first one, and a little bit poorer in quality compared to the others.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,757 Arc User
    The Cardassian arc itself is recent but the 2800 arc is fairly old and it could do with an upgrade.
    IIRC, they have said repeatedly in the past that they wont redo the featured series missions, like Specters, Cloaked Intentions, 2800, because they considered them good enough already. The Breen arc work was stated to be just some minor touchups because it was the first one, and a little bit poorer in quality compared to the others.

    Thanks Somtaaw, Interesting to know. :tongue:
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    Thanks Somtaaw, Interesting to know. :tongue:
    But you know, this IS Cryptic we are talking about here. They do a lot of odd stuff.

  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,757 Arc User
    Thanks Somtaaw, Interesting to know. :tongue:
    But you know, this IS Cryptic we are talking about here. They do a lot of odd stuff.

    I wouldn't put it past them to do something different, if they can do a t6 miranda, a t6 connie despite the name temporal light cruiser, it would stand to reason that they could do a 2800 update anyway. We will see by anniversary date heading towards summer 2018.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 33,922 Arc User
    Well, the STO lore for the Wadi has them as a race more willing to work with the KDF than the Feds for some reason. They were added along with the Dominion FE series.

    *hunts down the doff missions*

    Wadi Officer Exchange Program: "The High Command has ordered the implementation of officer exchange programs to assist integration of Imperial Protectorates."

    Hunh... so this would seem to suggest that they're more closely allied with KDF than the Dominion in STO.
    Without knowing what the reasons for that protectorate is? The thing is what caused the Dominion war in the first place was incursions into the Gamma quadrant from those in the Alpha and Beta quadrants and it provoked the Dominion.

    It could be possible a few thousand Wadi Refugees left their homeworld and settled in the Alpha or Beta Quadrants and the Klingons made them a protectorate, but again without knowing why. It's just shooting the dark hoping to hit an answer at this point.
    No, this seems to be the Wadi as a whole, since one of the other Wadi related missions is about helping the Wadi find new colony worlds... in the Gamma Q.
    I've gone and looked it up on sto wiki and i'm either looking in the wrong location or it's not there, do you have more proof? sorry, i'm almost convinced you're right but a little more would be nice.
    I could screenshot the in-game mission descriptions. :p The wiki doesn't necessarily have all the flavor text of things.

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    The Cardassian arc itself is recent but the 2800 arc is fairly old and it could do with an upgrade.
    IIRC, they have said repeatedly in the past that they wont redo the featured series missions, like Specters, Cloaked Intentions, 2800, because they considered them good enough already. The Breen arc work was stated to be just some minor touchups because it was the first one, and a little bit poorer in quality compared to the others.
    Hehe, I have Mk4 versions of some of the Breen gear :p Yeah, not much has changed since then.
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    Hehe, I have Mk4 versions of some of the Breen gear :p Yeah, not much has changed since then.
    TBH, the only real change I feel like the 4 featured series mission arcs could really use is a reduction on how cavernous some of the interiors are, since they were made back when that was a necessary problem. But even that wasn't really that bad except in the Specters arc when we go to past Drozana. The Breen arc does have some problems the old, pre-revamp, arcs did with needing to kill like 10 squads on the ground before the mission continued, but it was never as bad or systemic as like the old Cardassian arc was about it. Overall they are pretty fine though.

    The only missions that REALLY need to be revamped IMO are the early Klingon missions. All the other revamped arcs(tutorial, Romulan, Cardassian, Borg/Undine), and all the missions added since LoR, from the Romulan faction story missions, up until this current arc, are all fine imo.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,757 Arc User
    Well, the STO lore for the Wadi has them as a race more willing to work with the KDF than the Feds for some reason. They were added along with the Dominion FE series.

    *hunts down the doff missions*

    Wadi Officer Exchange Program: "The High Command has ordered the implementation of officer exchange programs to assist integration of Imperial Protectorates."

    Hunh... so this would seem to suggest that they're more closely allied with KDF than the Dominion in STO.
    Without knowing what the reasons for that protectorate is? The thing is what caused the Dominion war in the first place was incursions into the Gamma quadrant from those in the Alpha and Beta quadrants and it provoked the Dominion.

    It could be possible a few thousand Wadi Refugees left their homeworld and settled in the Alpha or Beta Quadrants and the Klingons made them a protectorate, but again without knowing why. It's just shooting the dark hoping to hit an answer at this point.
    No, this seems to be the Wadi as a whole, since one of the other Wadi related missions is about helping the Wadi find new colony worlds... in the Gamma Q.
    I've gone and looked it up on sto wiki and i'm either looking in the wrong location or it's not there, do you have more proof? sorry, i'm almost convinced you're right but a little more would be nice.
    I could screenshot the in-game mission descriptions. :p The wiki doesn't necessarily have all the flavor text of things.

    wadi_lore_composite_by_marhawkman-dbs3wgm.png

    Thank you for setting that one straight. nice reply. :smile:

    I'm wondering why the Wadi are not officially in the Klingon Empire, playable and with ships of their own or why the Dominion haven't wiped them out yet. It seems rather ominous. Could the Wadi be a key player for the alliance in future dealing with the Dominion? It would be nice to have a foothold between the wormhole and the Dominion and the Wadi homeworld could be an interesting social setting going forward for all players in the Alliance from which to strike out into the Gamma Quadrant.

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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    edited October 2017
    I'm wondering why the Wadi are not officially in the Klingon Empire, playable and with ships of their own or why the Dominion haven't wiped them out yet. It seems rather ominous. Could the Wadi be a key player for the alliance in future dealing with the Dominion? It would be nice to have a foothold between the wormhole and the Dominion and the Wadi homeworld could be an interesting social setting going forward for all players in the Alliance from which to strike out into the Gamma Quadrant.
    As mentioned before, the Wadi are not the only Gamma Quadrant race doing this in Star Trek Online. The Tosk, Hunters, Dosi, Paradans, and Karemma have the same sort of alliances going on with the Klingon Empire or Federation.

    The Dominion haven't wiped them out because the Dominion doesn't care, so long as we stay out of their territory, and I doubt they want to start another war.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 33,922 Arc User
    Well, it'd also be problematic since several of those races simply don't live in alpha or beta.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,757 Arc User
    I'm wondering why the Wadi are not officially in the Klingon Empire, playable and with ships of their own or why the Dominion haven't wiped them out yet. It seems rather ominous. Could the Wadi be a key player for the alliance in future dealing with the Dominion? It would be nice to have a foothold between the wormhole and the Dominion and the Wadi homeworld could be an interesting social setting going forward for all players in the Alliance from which to strike out into the Gamma Quadrant.
    As mentioned before, the Wadi are not the only Gamma Quadrant race doing this in Star Trek Online. The Tosk, Hunters, Dosi, Paradans, and Karemma have the same sort of alliances going on with the Klingon Empire or Federation.

    The Dominion haven't wiped them out because the Dominion doesn't care, so long as we stay out of their territory, and I doubt they want to start another war.

    ahh, are those also mentioned in doffing missions to each side? i haven't done any doffing in years but considering the wadi..

    The Dominion took a few years to respond to to what they thought was a breach of their territory because it was interference. It's possible the Dominion are about to respond, but i'm not going to dismiss your point either, there could be truth in that as well.
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,321 Arc User
    Well even though the gamma quad races don't live in the alpha or beta quad, the introduction missions could be used to explain this away. If they instead of using the Dominion used the other gamma quad races for a new faction, than the fact we have had these exchange programs in the game with them could be used to explain the fact how they are getting into the alpha/beta quad. Such as why we would see these non-native races in the alpha/beta quad so early, is from the fact of those that were brought over thru such a exchange program, and might have thru some fact gotten promoted up to captain of the ship.

    Now where the Cardassians an even the alpha (or gamma to a very minor case) Jem'hadar are concerned they could do a recruit event, in which you can make characters of these races in the main factions alongside gamma-quad mission. Though you could also do it that the top reward for doing a gamma-quad recruit event is giving access to certain gamma-quad races depending on faction.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,557 Arc User
    binebane wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    I actually hope that they DON'T introduce another faction. Only speaking from my own perspective of course.

    The best we can hope for from a new faction is a limited number of faction-specific episodes before we're dropped somewhere in the game's 'classic' storyline. I have absolutely no desire to replay the whole game again and no 'special completion reward' sweetens the deal for me pesonally - particularly not if we have to do silly 'find temporal probe' tasks and complete a pointless puzzle' to obtain it.

    mini faction (similar to 23. century captains with gamma quadrant recruitment) with new race/s and after breef "escape gamma quadrant" arch your refugee team joins one of two major factions... that would be interesting idea while revisiting gamma with high level captain later.

    i would still prefer romulans as third real faction but that will never happen anyway...

    i always suspected that this new bugs are creation of founders but since i dont expect gamma thing for year or so i might be completely wrong since lots of story can happen to that time. also maybe we will advance to 2411.

    And that is exactly what I am saying doesn't really interest me personally.

    I mean, the Agents of Yesterday specific episodes are great, but there are too few of them. I, like many others, really enjoyed those TOS era episodes, but the whole thing just ended too quickly and dumped us back in the game's 'classic' storyline, which I have developed a strong dislike toward repeat-playing.

    I will say that the new expansion should at least have the advantage of NOT locking us out of the sector map (which is exactly what AoY does once you hit the classic STO story branch).

    Still, if it's another case of six or so Gamma specific episodes (including silly find hidden thingy and complete puzzle to unlock *insert gamma specific item here* ) and then back to the classic story branch I, for one, won't partake in it.
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    ahh, are those also mentioned in doffing missions to each side? i haven't done any doffing in years but considering the wadi..

    The Dominion took a few years to respond to to what they thought was a breach of their territory because it was interference. It's possible the Dominion are about to respond, but i'm not going to dismiss your point either, there could be truth in that as well.
    The Dosi, who are on the KDF side, have the exact same doff mission wording as the Wadi.

    The Paradan and Karemma, who are more allied to the Federation, don't mention being protectorates as far as I am aware, but given that they are supposed to be the Fed's equivalents to the KDF's, and you do the same thing in said doffing missions, I would assume it's basically the same status on the Feds side.

    The Hunters/Tosk are from Gamma Quad duty officer packs, and there is no doff mission or anything explaining why they are allied to the KDF/Feds, they just are.
  • newromulan#1567 newromulan Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    Any more news on the next expansion? Or will it be quiet until next year?
  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    Any more news on the next expansion? Or will it be quiet until next year?
    Not going to be any news until like the next anniversary probably.
  • nefarius2nefarius2 Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    I was looking at the calendar in game. I clicked under December and there's a picture of DS9 and the date is December 1999. The date the show ended I believe. Could be something coming soon. Maybe DS9 revamp?
  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,926 Arc User
    nefarius2 wrote: »
    I was looking at the calendar in game. I clicked under December and there's a picture of DS9 and the date is December 1999. The date the show ended I believe. Could be something coming soon. Maybe DS9 revamp?
    DS9 ended in June 1999, and that's a rather old bug that happens any time the calendar gets out of whack.
  • aliguanaaliguana Member Posts: 261 Arc User
    i think it's going to be a full map expansion, well kind of delta-quadrant size anyway. As to why we go there.. I don't think it will be a Dominion invasion of DS9, cos that's been done already *static*KURLAND HERE!*static*. We probably have to do into Gamma for... reasons. Also, while we're there, we can "discover" New Khitomer. Although that would mean more Daniels probably.

    New factions? Nope. But deffo a new Fleet Holding to grind, and deffo a new Rep tree. and at least 3 different lockboxes. maybe a bunch of Jem hadar/founder makeup pieces for the tailor.
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