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The most famous Enterprise...

seaquest42seaquest42 Member Posts: 69 Arc User
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I was looking at my Fleet Starbase's Enterprises display under the conference room, and I noticed that we are missing one of the most famous Enterprise of all.. The U.S.S. Enterprise CV-6, she fought in all major sea battles in the Pacific theaters during WW2. There is room for one more. Unless there is gonna be a 1701 G soon.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,343 Arc User
    There won't be another 1701 soon. It's barely over a year old in-game, and has just had a refit to T6!
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  • seaquest42seaquest42 Member Posts: 69 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    There won't be another 1701 soon. It's barely over a year old in-game, and has just had a refit to T6!

    I think the 1701 F is at least 2 or 3 years old now. I am not saying there will be 1701 G... I am just saying unless they are saving that spot for it... the CV 6 should go there.


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  • masterkampmasterkamp Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    seaquest42 wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    There won't be another 1701 soon. It's barely over a year old in-game, and has just had a refit to T6!

    I think the 1701 F is at least 2 or 3 years old now. I am not saying there will be 1701 G... I am just saying unless they are saving that spot for it... the CV 6 should go there.


    He means in the STO Timeline The Enterprise is a year old. In real time the Enterprise is 3 years old.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,017 Community Moderator
    edited June 2017
    While I agree the CV-6 is an important member of the Enterprise family, odds are most people these days are more familiar with CVN-65. ESPECIALLY since she was "seen" in The Voyage Home. Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.

    latest?cb=20120317044527&path-prefix=en

    And further research has revealed that CV-6 WOULD have had a sketch aboard the NX-01... if there was room on the wall.

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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,313 Community Moderator
    It's been awhile since I've looked, but aren't the Enterprise pics at the Fleet Starbase limited to space vessels?
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,379 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    While I agree the CV-6 is an important member of the Enterprise family, odds are most people these days are more familiar with CVN-65. ESPECIALLY since she was "seen" in The Voyage Home. Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.

    latest?cb=20120317044527&path-prefix=en

    And further research has revealed that CV-6 WOULD have had a sketch aboard the NX-01... if there was room on the wall.

    latest?cb=20121108201240&path-prefix=en

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=yc6OeFmcJ0g
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    While I agree the CV-6 is an important member of the Enterprise family, odds are most people these days are more familiar with CVN-65. ESPECIALLY since she was "seen" in The Voyage Home. Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.

    latest?cb=20120317044527&path-prefix=en

    And further research has revealed that CV-6 WOULD have had a sketch aboard the NX-01... if there was room on the wall.

    latest?cb=20121108201240&path-prefix=en

    Sad that the Ranger is doomed to the scrap pile after reading her history. She is still sitting waiting to be cut up. For some reason I thought it was the Kennedy that was used in 4. Thank you for that information!
  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(1799)

    This Enterprise is the one that made the name famous.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,017 Community Moderator
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    It's been awhile since I've looked, but aren't the Enterprise pics at the Fleet Starbase limited to space vessels?

    Nope. If you look, you'll see the HMS Enterprize, a sailing ship, and USS Enterprise CVN-65.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,313 Community Moderator
    rattler2 wrote: »
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    It's been awhile since I've looked, but aren't the Enterprise pics at the Fleet Starbase limited to space vessels?

    Nope. If you look, you'll see the HMS Enterprize, a sailing ship, and USS Enterprise CVN-65.

    I thought maybe so, but couldn't remember. Thanks.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    With the rampant time traveling going on, we could have the G, H & I be released in freaking Enterprise bundle in the C-store. :s
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,664 Arc User
    dracounguis wrote: »
    With the rampant time traveling going on, we could have the G, H & I be released in freaking Enterprise bundle in the C-store. :s

    Starship Yamato time!

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    rattler2 wrote: »
    While I agree the CV-6 is an important member of the Enterprise family, odds are most people these days are more familiar with CVN-65. ESPECIALLY since she was "seen" in The Voyage Home. Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.

    the Enterprise is also not a pacific fleet vessel iirc, so wouldnt have been there EVER
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.
    You cannot prove, nor say this.
    Time has become actually irrelevant, as we can travel back and forth through it.
    Thus, the Enterprise COULD have been there, as time as WE know it in our 21st century era, no longer applies in the future. ;)
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,313 Community Moderator
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    While I agree the CV-6 is an important member of the Enterprise family, odds are most people these days are more familiar with CVN-65. ESPECIALLY since she was "seen" in The Voyage Home. Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.

    the Enterprise is also not a pacific fleet vessel iirc, so wouldnt have been there EVER

    Actually, yes, her home port was Alameda until it closed in 1997, and then moved to Norfolk.
    kiksken wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.
    You cannot prove, nor say this.
    Time has become actually irrelevant, as we can travel back and forth through it.
    Thus, the Enterprise COULD have been there, as time as WE know it in our 21st century era, no longer applies in the future. ;)

    Actually, yes, he can.
    From Memory Alpha:

    In Star Trek IV, the "part" of USS Enterprise was actually filled by the conventionally-powered USS Ranger (CV-61, Forrestal-class), because Enterprise was on deployment at the time of the movie's filming. (Star Trek Encyclopedia 3rd ed., p. 137)

    I think that you're confusing his statement about reality with the fiction of the movie. :wink:
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    kiksken wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.
    You cannot prove, nor say this.
    Time has become actually irrelevant, as we can travel back and forth through it.
    Thus, the Enterprise COULD have been there, as time as WE know it in our 21st century era, no longer applies in the future. ;)

    Actually, yes, he can.
    He can not.
    The same Enterprise can be in 1000 different places at the same time, if that Enterprise was sent from different time zones to that specific one.
    Actually, the 1 Enterprise could form a complete fleet this way, if not just sent to the same time, but even the same place.
    Of course, it would be quite a thing, having a fleet of Enterprises, but it is possible in the Star Trek whole.

    And thus, no, he... can not...
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    Not mine!
    Star Treks.

    IMHO, and this is theoretical, there is a speed beyond that of light: time.
    I do not believe that time can be overcome, that the rule of time can be broken.
    VERY simplistic put, of course, there's far more to my theory.
    And yes, I am VERY much aware, it is not more than just that, theory.
    So no need to tell me this.

    Besides, @azrael605 I find your words, or how you put them, offensive, insulting to be precise.
    I am not an idiot.
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    ...
    Have you even read what I said?
    kiksken wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.
    You cannot prove, nor say this.
    Time has become actually irrelevant, as we can travel back and forth through it.
    Thus, the Enterprise COULD have been there, as time as WE know it in our 21st century era, no longer applies in the future. ;)
    My comment on this was, that it would not be impossible for the Enterprise to be THERE in that time/space.
    That the Enterprise, since in Star Trek they can travel to the past, the Enterprise COULD be there in 2 seperate instances.
    I NEVER said, that it was not another ship, did I.
    I merely contest the fact, it is actually possible within the realm of Star Trek.

    Let me bold the actual part i reacted on: as Enterprise was deployed at the time.
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    I did, I just questioned the reason given as to why it 'could not be the enterprise'.
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,313 Community Moderator
    kiksken wrote: »
    I did, I just questioned the reason given as to why it 'could not be the enterprise'.

    O...k... ... ... ... You know that "time travel" isn't really a thing, though, right?
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    kiksken wrote: »
    I did, I just questioned the reason given as to why it 'could not be the enterprise'.

    O...k... ... ... ... You know that "time travel" isn't really a thing, though, right?
    Excuse me, do you mean: "You know time travel is fictional, right?" or something different?
    If it is the first... I said, I am not an idiot, and i have theories about this.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,313 Community Moderator
    edited June 2017
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    OK... anyway... moving on.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,017 Community Moderator
    Because I said it rather plainly, and badmoon provided the exact citation, that the real world USS Enterprise CVN-65 was on deployment during the filming of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and therefor could NOT be used for filming any scenes. So they substituted another carrier, in this case the USS Ranger, and made sure to not show any markings that would identify her as such.

    Here's another citation from Wikipedia on ST4.
    wikipedia wrote:
    In the film, Uhura and Chekov visit the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise. The real Enterprise, out at sea at the time, was unavailable for filming, so the non-nuclear-powered carrier USS Ranger (CV-61) was used.

    It is not the first time one ship was substituted for another in filming a movie.
    In The Hunt for Red October, The USS Dallas... was not the real world USS Dallas. While they actually DID have Enterprise and Ruben James, the part of the Dallas on screen was portrayed by another submarine of the same class, in this case the USS Louisville and USS Houston.
    wikipedia wrote:
    The Navy gave the filmmakers access to several Los Angeles-class submarines, allowing them to photograph unclassified sections of both the Chicago and Portsmouth to use in set and prop design. The Louisville was used for the scene in which Baldwin is dropped from a helicopter to the submarine. Key cast and crew members rode along in subs, including Alec Baldwin and Scott Glenn, who took an overnight trip aboard the Salt Lake City. Glenn, who played the commander of Dallas, trained by assuming the identity of a submarine captain on board the Houston (which portrayed Dallas in most scenes). The sub's crew all took orders from Glenn, who was being prompted by the actual commanding officer.
    wikipedia wrote:
    The Navy lent the film crew Houston, Enterprise, two frigates (Wadsworth and Reuben James), helicopters, and a dry-dock crew.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt_for_Red_October_(film)

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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    .... aaaaaah, now I get it... I thought the topic was from some episode of a series I had not seen.
    Not reality.

    And now I get the responses about my response...

    Oh God, how silly. XD

    Please accept my formal apologies, for the oversight on my behalf...
    Klingons don't get drunk.
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    ADDENDUM: With my son in the hospital with me (he has a very low immunity level due to the chemo), the constant of nurses and whatnot, my son asking for tons of attention (logical, he's 5...), I am not aware fully of what is happening in the outside world, and i get distracted a lot, which is where my fantastic mistake originated from.
    Not an excuse, I still made the mistake, but merely an explanation...
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    While I agree the CV-6 is an important member of the Enterprise family, odds are most people these days are more familiar with CVN-65. ESPECIALLY since she was "seen" in The Voyage Home. Granted the actual carrier that played the part of the Enterprise was actually the USS Ranger as Enterprise was deployed at the time.

    the Enterprise is also not a pacific fleet vessel iirc, so wouldnt have been there EVER

    Actually, yes, her home port was Alameda until it closed in 1997, and then moved to Norfolk.

    Learned something new today
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    smokebailey wrote: »
    dracounguis wrote: »
    With the rampant time traveling going on, we could have the G, H & I be released in freaking Enterprise bundle in the C-store. :s

    Starship Yamato time!

    ~Runs to a navel vessel with a large bag of anime machine bits slung over her shoulder~

    I'll get to working on the Wave Motion Engines. We are gonna need those!
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