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rosetyler51
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Elite mode: Don't say Star Trek Online
I have two. Archeage and Warfarm...wait I meant Warframe.
Archeage had a lot of great ideas. Strong crafting focused gear growth, sailing, housing, and flyers. I'm sure I'm forgetting even more. But between the P2W of their cash shop, the gap between f2p and sub players, bots, and few other mistakes I don't have high hopes for it.
Warframe, some people say they wish STO' ground combat more like Neverwinter's. I would rather see it more like this game (after an INSANELY high level of refining). What really screwed it up for me? The crack I made earlier about Warfarm is no joke. That is pretty much whole game and even then it would not be such a big deal if you did not have to worry about the host dropping or your FPS hitting -2 when your team is filled with laggy powers.
I would bring up SWTOR but my Chief Medical Officer says my heart can't take an other rant over how bad that game is.
I have two. Archeage and Warfarm...wait I meant Warframe.
Archeage had a lot of great ideas. Strong crafting focused gear growth, sailing, housing, and flyers. I'm sure I'm forgetting even more. But between the P2W of their cash shop, the gap between f2p and sub players, bots, and few other mistakes I don't have high hopes for it.
Warframe, some people say they wish STO' ground combat more like Neverwinter's. I would rather see it more like this game (after an INSANELY high level of refining). What really screwed it up for me? The crack I made earlier about Warfarm is no joke. That is pretty much whole game and even then it would not be such a big deal if you did not have to worry about the host dropping or your FPS hitting -2 when your team is filled with laggy powers.
I would bring up SWTOR but my Chief Medical Officer says my heart can't take an other rant over how bad that game is.
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You failed Elite Mode. Next time try out Advanced. They nerfed it so anyone can beat it., even you.
Starship Titanic. So much potential, I mean Douglas Adams and Terry Gilliam teamed up. And some parts really were incredible, including the 1920s look of the ship. But ultimately it was a weak showing with some really annoying parts, and a buggy program.
Star Trek - legacy
Star Trek - ps2 one - can't remember the name
From the very premise of Star Trek (which was completely missunderstood), over how Starships work to the trashy FX, Cryptic made everything just wrong.
Star Trek has so much potential to tell good stories, STO only shows war and rewards killing everything in the players path. I think the very idea of creating a Star Trek MMO is basicly wrong. A open world/sandbox Single player RPG would have been way better. (With emphasis on free play and a advanced exploration engine)
Just my very personal opinion.
(I never cared much about elite modes.:))
black & white. needing to redo the 30 minute tutorial on every playthrough, needy villagers that required an obscene amount of micro-management, pets that learnt bad habits from a single misclick of the mouse... the list goes on and on. one of the most looked forward to games of its time turned out to be the greatest disappointment.
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Makes the strongest case I can think of for the argument that the games of today can't match their predecessors in terms of depth or gameplay; because all the time, money, and disk space, get blown on the beautiful environments, physics engines, and ultra realistic characters.
It was an OK game, and I did enjoy it; but as a Deus Ex title it should have been so much more than it was.
And of course, it's ending was even worse than ME3's.
Now hold on just a mome- you know what, I'm not going to start a nerdy Mass Effect flame war when over half the people here don't know what it is. Keelah se'lai
Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv
Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
Legacy on PC wasn't too bad, especially since you could mod it.
Which PS2 game? There were a couple I can think of right off the top of my head.
Star Trek Voyager Elite Force
Star Trek Shattered Universe
Anyways...
MechWarrior Online.
Yes its nice to see another MechWarrior game, but its basically World of Tanks with mechs, and throws rookie players into the deep end right off the bat. How can rookies learn if they get picked off by veterans?
I personally think gameplay was great, and the addition of the Omni Blade was nice, but the ending was kinda... wut?
It had a lot of good ideas and concepts, but is just a MESS in the end, to put it nicely.
MechWarrior Online - Hey, gang? Let's do a Mecha version of World of Tanks!
The last version of Command and Conquer, the one with the hentai characters and the Russian paratrooper bears.
MWO for all the reasons already stated.
Tribes: Ascend for mismanagement, lack of communication, and squandering their developer resources on band-aid fixes instead of addressing the core balance problems of the game (mostly regarding physics).
They wanted to revitalize the Tribes franchise but forgot all the things that made it so awesome to begin with.
The game itself was good the story was good but OH MY GOD the ending left me with such utter disappointment I haven't played the game since.
If I wanted a game where I invested over 100 + hours game play choosing my path in the game to mean nothing I would play the sims.
to give us the ending they did was like a F You to what we invested and talking from my own perspective fell in love with the mythos and characters of the story.
It will for me go down in history as nothing more than a short hard kick in my nuts.
Dude, I said Drop It. I won't ask again
Let's not start a flame war, I'm out of popcorn
Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv
Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
It was the one that came out when Legacy did it was Star Trek - encounters the only saving grace for it was William Shatner did the VO for it. . . Well most of it I think since I never finished it.
another one was Star Trek - Conquest that was awful
Lol no flames here just saying how it felt for me is all everyone has their own views on games etc etc
as the saying goes "to each his own"
I knew that person had to exist somewhere.
Well... Take it from a religious perspective and sure it can (extended cut helped make the ending itself better). Don't worry, I can always whip out a saved game with the bad ending
Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv
Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
As for this thread topic. I'd pick Perpetual's Star Trek Online. To make a great game, first you have to actually make it.
I would say that it was due to Tabula Rasa having the development costs of two MMOs instead of just one like other MMOs. Tabula Rasa was originally like WoW in space before most of it was scrapped instead of the militaristic MMO that it became. The original Tabula Rasa was supposed to have floating island homes similar Wildstar's housing system and a more impressive costume system instead of being mostly limited to military uniforms. Although, Control Points, Cloning, being able to one-shot Stalkers with a Sniper, and having a very unique stealth ability with the Spy's Polymorph ability were some of the highlights of that game.
Every Madden game after 2006 - They don't even put full stats for the players now, what next in their career screen, they played, don't even get me started on their balance issues.
Fable III - Beautiful game, but everything else is wtf
Ghost Recon: Phantoms: When it was Ghost Recon: Online, it wasn't a bad game and its P2Wness wasn't very apparent. When it relaunched as Phantoms, outright P2W and the Devs don't care.
While I will never play a sport game, I never understood why they don't use DLCs to update the rosters. Have a $60 game that is put out every few years and $10 DLCs every year that shows all the changes to the sport that has been made over the year. This way they can put out better games with a ton of new features without being rushed to release next year's game where the game suffers as a result.
although i liked a few bits on the game, the "krogan airdrop" in citadel dlc, James Vega (Crazy is one word to put it especially on Mars) and Steve Cortez (mostly because hes a really nice person who lost his husband and has not had the chance to mourn him), you got the addition of Samantha Trainor (Who is looking to seduce femshep) but i didnt like her that much, not really much she was doing.
besides the airdrop and mr Vega's love of mid-air collisions
star trek online is another game that could of done so well, but its creators are well "cryptic" at the best of times and for the most part player feedback is only taken seriously in bug related issues and official feedback, nothing beyond that, the rest is all done in house. i dont know the situation in the cryptic camp so i can not say what is good or bad or what can be improved.
however the game could of been so much more.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Hrmmm
I say....
All the games that could've been great but got it all wrong.