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It's kind of hard for me to understand why this doesn't exist
thegrandnagus1
Member Posts: 5,165 Arc User
Imagine if Cryptic offered some kind of unique reward for having a max level character in all 3 of it's games: STO, Champions Online, and Neverwinter. The benefit for Cryptic would be obvious: if you could get people to play to max level in each game, they are almost certainly going to spend money in the game store. That being the case, it's kind of hard for me to understand why something like this *doesn't* exist. But then again, I'm no game designer, so maybe there is something I'm not considering?
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The idea is interesting, but to not just look into but go to max in a certain game might be, at worst, psychically painful enough to some ppl that the majority might just not do it.
To lure somebody to put so much time & effort into another game the reward has to be something really, REALLY desirable but at the same time does not TRIBBLE off your main audience for each singular title that they are fans of with something OP.
ie. While I do like D&D & was involved in Pen&Paper (A)D&D2 up to 3.5 (in front & behind the DM screen) mostly forgotten realms; played all "modern" (BG+ era) and a few SSI oldies in its CRPG glory & just love that setting; I'm very disgusted by its 4th ed. setting representation in specific & the 4th ed. rule-set in general.
To get someone like me to "test" NWO would be financial uninteresting to Cryptic & I'm pretty sure NWO & CO have ppl thinking similar about STO & each other (probably to a lesser extreme).
Those that do not bother probably have done anyway already so there is nothing to win there but goodwill for Cryptic.
The only thing in my mind that would not cause even more histrionics would be a character Title accolade, something like "Multiverse Veteran".
I really don't understand how "some people won't do it" matters. If some people don't do it, they lose nothing from those people and just have the exact same situation they have now. But some people *will* do it, and will likely spend a dollar or 2 while leveling, and that is money that they would not have made otherwise from those people.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
"at worst, psychically painful to some (at less worst less painfull but still unappealling, at medium worse very unpleasant and still not... etc [hope you get it]) that (in combination on all stages of just don't like enough to do till psychically painful) the (resulting) majority might just not do it."
Sorry. Thought it was obvious in context of the whole post.
No, I completely get it. Some people won't want to do it. And Cryptic loses nothing from those people. But some people will want to do it, and Cryptic will probably get money from those people that they wouldn't have otherwise. So again, I'm not sure how "some people won't do it" actually matters.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
What made you so bitter to dig out the hatchet so quickly? Its ok, you think just some, I think more. Just an opinion, no fact or written law; no need to force what you prefer to read out of my post into it.
ps: off for work, brb in 12 hours; maybe I have a chance at lunch break.
Um, ok? Can someone please read over this thread and tell me what in the world he is talking about?
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I think what he's trying to say is that implementing this would cost Cryptic a fair bit of money (coding ain't cheap - or at least the programmers aren't). If only a handful of people use the feature, the Cryptic are making a loss on the feature, which is quite dangerous in the (heavily saturated) MMO market.
As for that whole 'bitter' and 'hatchet' thing... I think even Daniel Jackson would have trouble with that.
Trials of Blood and Fire
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Quick, someone visit the guardian of forever and go visit Hoshi and ask her if she can interpret for us!
Based on my vague memory of Hoshi's translations, I think I'll stick with the fairly bright archaeologist. :P
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
And that is totally fine. As I have said before, and will likely say again, if someone(like yourself) decides they don't want to do it, Cryptic loses nothing. However 2 people in this thread have already said they would:
And while leveling a character to max, people are likely to spend a dollar or two in the game store. So if a system like this motivates *some* people to do it, then Cryptic is probably going to make money from those people that they wouldn't have made without such a system.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Never winter has the same tab stab STO does lol, it made neverwinter cheesy but gave STO that unique Power rangers feel, dem scenes where they fly past the enemies and they fall...
Mighty morphins all the way, Even if the fight scenes were terrible:..
Yea I used to watch it and will watch reruns if I catch'em... Problem Officer?
Mwahahahahahahaha
You must be new here, allow me to explain.
People complain and call foul on a lot of things here(some justified some not). There are numerous complains on things people need to do to get said item and I can only image what type of reaction that would get based on what your asking for. And in addition youre asking them to have max level characters in all 3 of its games?! Yikes!
Best bet youre going to get is a perhaps,*maybe* have it so you at least just try the other games, like a referral program. Download them with Arc, log into said games then get a small reward for trying the other games.
Youd need to program it to work for starters, then youd have to figure out if youre getting rewards for just one game...all three? What type of reward are we even talking about here?
It just seems like a lot of work, time and resources being spent for high potential backfire to Cryptic. Don't worry, Cryptic can lose.
Yep, I'm extremely new. What is this place? What is this "Star Trek Online" thing?
You are right, some people will complain about anything, and this would be no different. But beyond that, what does Cryptic actually lose if some people simply decide not to do it? Those people already aren't playing Champs or NW, so if someone decides not to play a game they are already not playing, that is not a loss, because you can't lose something you never had.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I know your not new :P Sorry, I came off as a smart a** and really didn't mean it to come off that way.
But no, what your asking for really isn't reasonable, you can't expect players to MAX level in all three games. Again, perhaps as a referral program, you download and try the game, and you get a small rewarded for that.
Cryptic can lose because it costs to do what you ask. In fact, it'll cost them in all three games! It's a lot of risk for little reward.
If that's the case, I certainly understand cost vs reward. However, there are 2 points that neither you nor I actually know:
A) how much it would cost to implement such a system
Without knowing either of those things, we have no idea whether it would be worth it or not. And if max level is too high a bar that turns off too many people, that's fine; I'm not dead set on any specific detail.
My main point is that I think Cryptic should find a way to encourage their customers to play all 3 of it's games, and some kind of exclusive reward might do that. Maybe hitting a lower level mark than max, maybe something else. I'm just brainstorming.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
You can include potential PvPers from that too. There is only a decline in such players. You dont have to like PvP, but the more players in this game the more wealthy for everyone.
Some stuff cant even be pay2reducetime'd
Rep, Spec points, Level 60
Except for R&D, but who pays 1000+ bucks just to finish R&D in a day? No one.
KKTHX cryptic.
So yeah, i dont understand why you dont understand this understandable phenomenon.
The irony of that is it would cost Cryptic to find out both A & B.
Don't get me wrong, I think the bases of the idea you have is pretty good. Can potentially help boast the popularity of the other games as well as STO.