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Why is DILL so under vauled as a fleet resource?
arcadia171e
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I have always wanted to know why dill is so under valued in fleet projects?
Dill is one of the most rare and precious resources in the game. Yet the ratio is only 1-1..
I find this shocking tbh. Why is it so low?
It should be 1-3 or even 1-4.
Dunno about you, but my fleet has tons of open projects, with every slot filled except the dill, as it's just not worth contributing it. It is needed for SO many things, and the rubbish fleet credits granted from it puts so many off filling projects.
Any plans to fix this quiet frankly broken game mechanic.?
Dill is one of the most rare and precious resources in the game. Yet the ratio is only 1-1..
I find this shocking tbh. Why is it so low?
It should be 1-3 or even 1-4.
Dunno about you, but my fleet has tons of open projects, with every slot filled except the dill, as it's just not worth contributing it. It is needed for SO many things, and the rubbish fleet credits granted from it puts so many off filling projects.
Any plans to fix this quiet frankly broken game mechanic.?
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Because the Lobi Consortium hasn't managed to make even a dent in the abundant supply of pickles? :P
Dilithium is the easiest currency to get in this game; as such it really is not worth more then 1-to-1.
Have you ever considered some players not having the time to do that for 4+ toons a day?
However it is still restricted by the refine limit, as you mentioned. Not everyone knows the whole dil methods that you know. Also given how much is needed in fleet projects the 1:1 ratio really isn't an incentive to donate given the other sinks.
Common DOFFs are relatively easy to get, on a Rommy character you can get twice the amount from recruitment, yet they have a greater ratio for credits. This is excluding the grind down from higher ones.
I do think they need to increase the ration for dil:credits, however I am not sure what to. It has to be reasonable but not too high.
I'm reasonably skilled at the game (not one of the 1337 types, though). And it takes me longer to make 8000, if that much.
On my "dilithium runs", per character:
Academy Midterm: 480
Duty Officer Assignment "Cycle" (Daily): Between 135-300
Traelus Repair Run: 480
Distress Call: 480
Refueling Station: 480
Aiding The Deferi:1440
Emancipation: 480
Rescuing the Deferi: 480
Explore Strange New Worlds: 1440
Fleet Dil Mine: 580 (ballpark)
Asteroid Mining: Same as above, on average. Don't have Rich Claims from the lockboxes.
That's a "normal" run for a single character on my end. I'm not counting converting marks to dil, since I gave up on the Rep System here recently (I only bother getting marks for the 500 dil per 50) and quit playing most STFs. Nor am I counting CE Elite or Contraband, since those are not every time I play.
I also skip out on Gank Zones, like Ker'rat and Otha.
The point is, that for (at least) some, grinding dil takes a lot longer than half an hour.
This will take me between 20 and 30 min.
Then you could do foundry for another 2000.
Then academy midterm and fleet dil mine to make up anything lacking.
I can get the 8000 in an hour. So? It is spent easily as well and builds up slowly.
With 3 or 4 to 1 exchange I happily donate a few thousand a day to the fleet.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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not everyone has "multiple characters" , the average casual player most likely does 8k in 2 hours(considering how poorly pug STFs are, and how most players also do missions, exploration or simply fly around/etc), and thats being generous.
1-10 or even 1-20 would be excellent.
I totally disagree lol.
So you are saying, that the only thing we can do is to gather dilithium to throw it away to the fleet projects?? lol, i think most of the people will want to save as well dilithium for their own use. I guess you forget dilithium is used to buy fleet equipment, reputation projects and equpiment, ships, etc.
And, yes dilithium is easy to get, but we are talking about near 1 million dilithium requirements in some projects of high fleets. It takes AGES, literally unless yo have a fleet with thousands of members. And it will be always the most hard requirement to fill, because people feels that the reward in fleet credits for the effort and sacrifice that is to throw away all your refined dilithium is not really worthy.
And again, you are one of those who thinks in 2 dimensions. A LOT of players dont have even 1 hour to play evey day. Sigh, always the same story..
So, yes the ratio should be higher. Its common sense.
Sure, or you can just buy 5000 zen, and convert it to refined dilithium and donate it to the fleet.
LOL.
And people wonders why the game is dying.. lol.
Same here. With 8 characters, that's what, 64k dilithium each day that I could make?
It takes stamina and concentration (which is why I use iTunes for PvE grinding), but in the end you will reap the benefits.
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Currently, the fastest and most efficient way to cap out a character's dilithium is to go to the dyson sphere battlezone. There are 4 dailies to do there, which will net you approximately 4k dilithium, either directly or through marks to convert into dilithium. Then by killing the silo bosses(the T-rexes) you can net another 480 +25 marks per T-rex. By defeating all 3, which isn't difficult, you will get approximately 2k dilithium, and 5 voth cybernetic implants, which can be turned in 3 for 1k dilithium.
All told, if you convert all your marks/tokens into dilithium, you can reasonably expect to obtain approximately 12000 dilithium by doing the dailies and a full run of killing dinos.
For me, being rep capped as I am, I can get 8k per character in approximately 40 minutes. I usually have quite a bit of overflow as well, so every 2 days, I can take a day off of battlezone and have enough to cap again.
Things do not get done by wishing they would get done. There is far too much wishing on this forum and not enough actual doing. It grows tiring listening to people scream for immediate gratification when with even a minor amount of effort things can get done fairly quickly.
Yet not everyone does STFs Cosmic. Some won't go near them as they don't have the confidence, and regardless of what others do, they don't want to make the run a balls up for others. That means that particular route is out for them.
For those I would say do the Voth ground battle zone you get dil and marks thrown at you there plus cybernetics that converts 3:1000dil.
Even with that some prefer to conserve their dil, not everyone is as good a farmer as you. What is wrong with increasing the dil:credit ratio?
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Dilithium meanwhile, has a hard refinement cap, and is used for almost EVERYTHING end game. People are going to be inclined to hoard it. as such it should proably be waaaay more valueable
Enjoy it while you can because it will be taken away in season 9.
Dude get real. 8k is a few STF's Foundry Daily, Defera Daily, Exploration daily, if you have preferred mining claims you can do the astroid and you Dil mine daily. Then do your 3 PVP battles. So you are looking at 2 or more hours of play to do all of that each day. If you can get 8k in 30 min please share.
Sucks to be them? -shrug-
If someone wants to login and sit on their bridge making grand speeches for 2 hours a day and then log out, they are not going to make any Dilthium, but that does not mean that Dilithium is not in the game.
"A gherkin a day keeps the doctor away."
(the originally seems to've been slanted heavily in favor of a certain sweet fruit)
well, if they can't, they should learn ,and not ask for freebies.
3 elite stf's will give you 8k in 30 min. with time to spare, i do them in 15m, depending how good team i have. battlezone will give you 8k dili. in 20 min. you just need to find a zone that is active, so dont start in the zone you spawn, but look at other instances.
but sure, i would not mind for dilitium do give more credits.