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questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,309 Arc User
So.. did anybody else see that notification with a non working link in the Arc launcher?
Going by the title the romulan ships are probably getting the JH vessel treatment with a T6 mastery which needs to be reached unlocking the ships for all.

What are your thoughts on this.

Aside from pointing towards towards the now defunct Treaty of Algeron or towards the amount of romulan observers needed for the romulan battle cloaks, my biggest concern is further loss of immersion for the romulan faction if their ship are available to all.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,782 Arc User
    I don't play Romulans too often, but when I do, I do so because I want to fly a Romulan ship.

    In the past I've used many different lock box ships. On most toons I've returned to Federation ships though, because flying some alien ship on a Fed toon would be strange, and indeed reduce immersion.

    So for me, wanting to fly a Romulan ship probably means that I'll keep playing a Romulan character. Instead of claiming a Romulan ship and then fly it on a Fed toon.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    Changes nothing, i play romulans on romulan ships, i assigned the temporal warbird to a vulcan the other day, but thats all. I don't even use JH ships even when i have them unlocked on ohter chars besides Jem'hadar, so.. really, if someone want to play a warbird on a fed or a kling, more power to them, i really dont care, i'm not a roleplaying guy and i dont care at all..
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,309 Arc User
    I don't play Romulans too often, but when I do, I do so because I want to fly a Romulan ship.

    In the past I've used many different lock box ships. On most toons I've returned to Federation ships though, because flying some alien ship on a Fed toon would be strange, and indeed reduce immersion.

    So for me, wanting to fly a Romulan ship probably means that I'll keep playing a Romulan character. Instead of claiming a Romulan ship and then fly it on a Fed toon.

    I'm thinking more obscure combo's like a JH in a T'varo or D'D
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • schloopdooschloopdoo Member Posts: 373 Arc User
    This would do wonders for my non-Romulan toons’ Admiralty collections.
  • shadowfirefly00shadowfirefly00 Member Posts: 1,026 Arc User
    questerius wrote: »
    So.. did anybody else see that notification with a non working link in the Arc launcher?
    Going by the title the romulan ships are probably getting the JH vessel treatment with a T6 mastery which needs to be reached unlocking the ships for all...

    Aside from pointing towards towards the now defunct Treaty of Algeron or towards the amount of romulan observers needed for the romulan battle cloaks, my biggest concern is further loss of immersion for the romulan faction if their ship are available to all.
    I understand your concern about... distinctiveness, I believe is the intended term. Keep in mind, though, that Romulan (and, I presume, Reman) operators do get exclusive access to traits like Singularity Specialist, so the effect might not be as severe as you perhaps estimate. Note that it also doesn't cover the T1-5 Romulan ships...

    That said, this would make accessibility of T6 Romulan ships consistent with their JHV counterparts, (and the fact of RRN and Vanguard operators having access to their ally faction's ship roster), and overall more options are always welcome.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    Doesn't change anything for me. If I want to fly in a Scimitar or something like that.. I am going to do it on my Romulan anyway.

    Given that the Romulan captains can have a full compliment of Superior Romulan Operatives, I can't think of anything that my Fed would do better in a Romulan Ship then my Romulan would do better in the same ship.

    It will be cool to have access to them for admiralty though, so score on that!
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  • thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    I do hope not all the romulan ships like the scimitars but maybe the other romulan ship classes. But more of a technology ship exchange to the allied factions of ships the republic are willing to give away to aid the feds and the kdf. Since they are very depleted in resources too. I think maybe it wasn't meant to be revealed yet. But on the launcher if you go to the second option it does show Command Romulan Ships so that is very curious indeed. It then links to the upgrade weekend. I relaunched the game so I can check it out for myself what was being said on this thread and yes its there. So yes I do think they are opening up Romulan Ships to the other factions. In what form not sure yet. Given I think they might have deleted that link or have not made the article yet. Or maybe deleted it and decided to wait on it or it was an accident of some type. But its got me curious.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,309 Arc User
    schloopdoo wrote: »
    This would do wonders for my non-Romulan toons’ Admiralty collections.

    Didn't think of the admiralty yet. I do hope i do not have to claim and discharge all those ships on all my active characters.
    How wonderful would it be when Zen ships automatically released account wide admiralty cards.

    While i'm dreaming, getting all the consoles from zen ships from the reclaim button in the dilithium ship instead of having the claim and later discharge a ship.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • trekkiejedigirl#9564 trekkiejedigirl Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    I mostly play Romulans. So for me this isn't a problem. I use my JH ships as much as I use Warbirds. To each their own. :)
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    I mostly play Romulans. So for me this isn't a problem. I use my JH ships as much as I use Warbirds. To each their own. :)

    I also feel M'chla BoP looks more Romulan/Reman than Klingon

    I do like it but if I never saw DSC and someone asked who's ship it should be, you know what my answer would be

    Its also a good option if somone likes a ship to be looks like Romulan but use a warpcore, lol

  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,636 Arc User
    The get one ship to get a trait on all your characters by buying the Romulan version from the Temporal Warships Bundle would be effectively back-ported to all Romulan ships with this. I've been considering the Strikewing Escort Bundle for its trait for both KDF and Fed, but having to buy a three-pack in effect was a bit of a turn-off. With this implemented I could just grab the T6 Ar'kif and have the trait on all chars.

    Admiralty boost will be interesting, since I've picked up a few three-packs and the occasional one-off Romulan ship purchase. Though, like others here I lament the lack of an easy claim mechanism.
  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    schloopdoo wrote: »
    This would do wonders for my non-Romulan toons’ Admiralty collections.

    My thoughts exactly.​​
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    There won't be the T6 mechanic to release Romulan Ships to other Factions. It will just be claim them. The T6 mechanic applied to a group of four ships. To implement that for the Romulans would be for dozens and dozens.

    They are attempting to reduce the grind, not make everyone's eyes bleed.
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  • bruccybruccy Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    i would say there more interested in selling more dry dock space and active slots ,as the admiralty grows lol
  • discoricediscorice Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    It'll be fun to fly a pilot warbird on my KDF main.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    bruccy wrote: »
    i would say there more interested in selling more dry dock space and active slots ,as the admiralty grows lol

    Doubtful, you don't have to keep ships in your slots in order to use the Admiralty Card. You can claim a C-Store ship then immediately dismiss it and you keep the admiralty card. You don't lose it when you dismiss the ship.
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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    https://imgur.com/uUCj6A4

    got a screenshot of the launcher with it
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,342 Arc User
    questerius wrote: »
    So.. did anybody else see that notification with a non working link in the Arc launcher?
    Going by the title the romulan ships are probably getting the JH vessel treatment with a T6 mastery which needs to be reached unlocking the ships for all.

    What are your thoughts on this.

    Aside from pointing towards towards the now defunct Treaty of Algeron or towards the amount of romulan observers needed for the romulan battle cloaks, my biggest concern is further loss of immersion for the romulan faction if their ship are available to all.

    This was actually hinted back a couple of days ago.....but hold on a minute OP, Roms have been able to use Fed/KDF and Jemmy ships for a long time now, and you're complaining about a loss of immersion!? Considering they've had the most generous choice of ships, I'd have thought you'd be a bit more thankful.... ;) . It won't affect anyone's immersion. My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,309 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    So.. did anybody else see that notification with a non working link in the Arc launcher?
    Going by the title the romulan ships are probably getting the JH vessel treatment with a T6 mastery which needs to be reached unlocking the ships for all.

    What are your thoughts on this.

    Aside from pointing towards towards the now defunct Treaty of Algeron or towards the amount of romulan observers needed for the romulan battle cloaks, my biggest concern is further loss of immersion for the romulan faction if their ship are available to all.

    This was actually hinted back a couple of days ago.....but hold on a minute OP, Roms have been able to use Fed/KDF and Jemmy ships for a long time now, and you're complaining about a loss of immersion!? Considering they've had the most generous choice of ships, I'd have thought you'd be a bit more thankful.... ;) . It won't affect anyone's immersion. My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D

    But that's Borg, not romulan :P
    B.t.w. i disliked the Romulans gaining access to their ally ships as well.
    I need to ask, is there anything left which makes the romulans unique? I'm not even a heavy romulan player, but i frown at the thought that all the factions are losing their individuality.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • majorcharvenakmajorcharvenak Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D

    Probably because you STOLE it! (Joking! :p)

    The Romulan in me would be outraged that our ships are being given away like some kind of clearance sale. The player though - I REALLY don't care anymore. Its probably long overdue and if potentially dampens any immersion, I can either look away or switch instances. Heck, if the ability for more folks to fly Romulan ships leads to increased sales perhaps we'll get more of them.
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    Ta'el, Lvl 63, Rom Tac
    Sukima, Lvl 65, Fed Vul Sci

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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,342 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D

    Probably because you STOLE it! (Joking! :p)

    The Romulan in me would be outraged that our ships are being given away like some kind of clearance sale. The player though - I REALLY don't care anymore. Its probably long overdue and if potentially dampens any immersion, I can either look away or switch instances. Heck, if the ability for more folks to fly Romulan ships leads to increased sales perhaps we'll get more of them.

    Not stole....just aggressive negotiations.... :D
    questerius wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    So.. did anybody else see that notification with a non working link in the Arc launcher?
    Going by the title the romulan ships are probably getting the JH vessel treatment with a T6 mastery which needs to be reached unlocking the ships for all.

    What are your thoughts on this.

    Aside from pointing towards towards the now defunct Treaty of Algeron or towards the amount of romulan observers needed for the romulan battle cloaks, my biggest concern is further loss of immersion for the romulan faction if their ship are available to all.

    This was actually hinted back a couple of days ago.....but hold on a minute OP, Roms have been able to use Fed/KDF and Jemmy ships for a long time now, and you're complaining about a loss of immersion!? Considering they've had the most generous choice of ships, I'd have thought you'd be a bit more thankful.... ;) . It won't affect anyone's immersion. My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D

    But that's Borg, not romulan :P
    B.t.w. i disliked the Romulans gaining access to their ally ships as well.
    I need to ask, is there anything left which makes the romulans unique? I'm not even a heavy romulan player, but i frown at the thought that all the factions are losing their individuality.

    Actually, it's stolen Borg tech that's been augmented into a Romulan ship to be picky. :p

    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • majorcharvenakmajorcharvenak Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D

    Probably because you STOLE it! (Joking! :p)

    The Romulan in me would be outraged that our ships are being given away like some kind of clearance sale. The player though - I REALLY don't care anymore. Its probably long overdue and if potentially dampens any immersion, I can either look away or switch instances. Heck, if the ability for more folks to fly Romulan ships leads to increased sales perhaps we'll get more of them.

    Not stole....just aggressive negotiations.... :D
    questerius wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    So.. did anybody else see that notification with a non working link in the Arc launcher?
    Going by the title the romulan ships are probably getting the JH vessel treatment with a T6 mastery which needs to be reached unlocking the ships for all.

    What are your thoughts on this.

    Aside from pointing towards towards the now defunct Treaty of Algeron or towards the amount of romulan observers needed for the romulan battle cloaks, my biggest concern is further loss of immersion for the romulan faction if their ship are available to all.

    This was actually hinted back a couple of days ago.....but hold on a minute OP, Roms have been able to use Fed/KDF and Jemmy ships for a long time now, and you're complaining about a loss of immersion!? Considering they've had the most generous choice of ships, I'd have thought you'd be a bit more thankful.... ;) . It won't affect anyone's immersion. My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D

    But that's Borg, not romulan :P
    B.t.w. i disliked the Romulans gaining access to their ally ships as well.
    I need to ask, is there anything left which makes the romulans unique? I'm not even a heavy romulan player, but i frown at the thought that all the factions are losing their individuality.

    Actually, it's stolen Borg tech that's been augmented into a Romulan ship to be picky. :p

    LOL! Fair enough. ;)
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    Member - Houseclan t'Charvon (STO)
    Shiarrael e'Tal'Aura t'Charvon, LvL 65, Rom Sci
    S'aana ir'Virinat t'Charvon, Lvl 65, Rom Eng
    T'Lyra, LvL 65, Fed, Vul Sci
    Ta'el, Lvl 63, Rom Tac
    Sukima, Lvl 65, Fed Vul Sci

    House Miliskeera in exile (NW)
    Sereska Miliskeera, Lvl 70 OP - Devotion (Just.)/Protection (Just.)
    Shizlee Miliskeera, Lvl 70 DC - Divine Oracle (Right.)/Anointed Champion (Faith.)
    Finithey Miliskeera, Lvl 70 HR - Stormwarden (Combat)/Pathfinder (Trapper)
    Maya Sik-Miliskeera, Lvl 70 CW - Spellstorm
    Irae Sik-Miliskeera, Lvl 70 TR - Master Inflitrator
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    I guess I wouldn't mind using a scimitar on another faction but I can't say the same for any other Romulan ship.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,309 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    leemwatson wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D

    Probably because you STOLE it! (Joking! :p)

    The Romulan in me would be outraged that our ships are being given away like some kind of clearance sale. The player though - I REALLY don't care anymore. Its probably long overdue and if potentially dampens any immersion, I can either look away or switch instances. Heck, if the ability for more folks to fly Romulan ships leads to increased sales perhaps we'll get more of them.

    Not stole....just aggressive negotiations.... :D

    Ferengi style.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    I guess I wouldn't mind using a scimitar on another faction but I can't say the same for any other Romulan ship.

    Or maybe leave the scimitar out and give every other romulan ship to the other factions. *Shrugs*
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Awesome. Now they only need to axe the red/blue thing and we're in business.
    ltminns wrote: »
    There won't be the T6 mechanic to release Romulan Ships to other Factions. It will just be claim them. The T6 mechanic applied to a group of four ships. To implement that for the Romuland would be for dozens and dozens.

    They are attempting to reduce the grind, not make everyone's eyes bleed.
    Personally, I wouldn't mind having a reason to go play those old ships again. But whatever, my backlog of ships to trait is big enough anyway.

    And then it wouldn't work with all the T1-5 ships anyway.
  • aricamarajade#4600 aricamarajade Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    It won't affect anyone's immersion. My main Fed Sci has been flying a Tal-shiar Adapted Battlecruiser for many a year, and it never affected him. :D

    Doesn't have Sing Core :P

    Kinda funny. First they remove the singularity core choices from repuatations since people couldn't use them, and now they have to patch the reps back.
    As long as they do give the acces to Romulan ships like they did with Feds, since Roms can't pick all ships (including from lockboxes). It is not like the federation factions have a lack of choice or ships, just making it the faction with the most options and acces to ship traits.

    Its removes the exclusiveness of factions and the feel of them. With the launch of 18 months of Fed ships its not something which was really needed. Maybe not all factions sell as well, but that is not the fault of the players with the drought of non fed ships. There are 2 Romulan bridges so it is not like the biggest sale deal they offerd.

    Will my Feds fly warbirds? Not really. Will be Admiral be more clickies, only if you skipped the zen store alot. Then again clicking for dil is endgame in current STO.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,309 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    I guess I wouldn't mind using a scimitar on another faction but I can't say the same for any other Romulan ship.

    Just had a novel thought. Pairing my Orion Engineer with a D'deridex-class Warbird Battle Cruiser
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/D'deridex-class_Warbird_Battle_Cruiser

    or its zen cousin:
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/D'Khellra-class_Warbird_Battlecruiser
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    As much as I loved the d'deridex I really don't like how its setup in the game, in the show it's a warship but in the game its setup like a regular cruiser. I would much rather use the MW Romulan ships and they seem to have a similar bird design style but minus the lower wings.
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    As much as I loved the d'deridex I really don't like how its setup in the game, in the show it's a warship but in the game its setup like a regular cruiser. I would much rather use the MW Romulan ships and they seem to have a similar bird design style but minus the lower wings.

    One of the most slowpoke to turn cruisers too - at 5 base turn rate

    generally the iconic ships pack if we exclude the great looks, is very underwhelming compared to more recently released ships, cruiser or no cruiser
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