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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    It is better to balance your news content between liberal and conservative sources not just living in a bubble of just liberal or conservative news. Watch Jimmy Dore a few times and Tim Pool for my liberal news content and a couple of shows on Fox for my conservative news content. Also watch Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan, but not for my news content.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > starkaos said:
    > It is better to balance your news content between liberal and conservative sources not just living in a bubble of just liberal or conservative news. Watch Jimmy Dore a few times and Tim Pool for my liberal news content and a couple of shows on Fox for my conservative news content. Also watch Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan, but not for my news content.

    I am neither conservative nor liberal point of fact I believe both are equal in all respects of corruption and every other possible consideration their only difference is labels that's it I do not follow any particular political view I do not follow any political party that's just how it is.

    I reject the pundits on the left as much as those on the right.

    To put it another way.
    Q: Are you a Liberal or a Conservative.
    A: Neither.
    Q: Why?
    A: Because I'm smart enough not to enjoy being half wrong all the time.

    Sadly, most people group themselves on the right or the left. Even though, a person's politics are far more complicated which is why most people should become Independent instead of voting based on some arbitrary party affiliation. It is the problem with our democratic system. We only have the choice of 2 to 4 parties and most people vote for the party instead of the politician. Which is one of the things that I am envious about the US. They get to vote for the President while the Prime Minister or Premier is just the leader of the party that has the most people in office.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    Meh... I'll stick to just local news honestly.
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  • thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    Well here is how I think about this. Unless hes proven guilty he may just well be innocent. Also here is the issue I have with this. While its possible the six women were attacked and forced into something they didn't want to do. Given the context of the private lessons. Love making lessons. Maybe it was just supposed to be acting out kissing on set. But I'm guessing this is for even more more beyond kissing type of scenes. Maybe for erotica videos or movies. The fact they were there for this type of thing.
    They won't be charging him with that type of crime unless their is evidence of something far more and I hope they have this evidence and maybe it was possible that he exploited and tricked these women into something and they consented to it but didn't get what was promised to them.
    Means he might be a pervert but if they consented to it willingly still. If he didn't give what was promised then it might amount to fraud. Then they were just as equally responsible for getting themselves into this as we do have to live with our choices we can blame others for them but in the end we make choices a lot of choices our greed can lead us to losing everything and this is what happens to a lot of people who fall victims to what is good to be true it isn't schemes and I've seen several episodes of american greed and there is many methods we can do to make sure we don't lose everything if we invest or just do dodiligence and not fall prey to a lot of the frauds.
    We shouldn't judge actors and people them over something they did say 30 years ago unless it was a very serious crime or the type of crime he is being charged with the most serious form of sexual assault charges with a pattern of repeat offenses or serious offenses even then we shouldn't judge as we all make mistakes let the law take care of it be unbiased and maybe society could be better.
    Here is where it looks bad at least to me for this to even be able to go to court and the prosecution winning this. If they consented to learning love making scenes and he gave demonstrations and they consented it isn't forced. If he forced himself onto them if they arrived at the house and they didn't consent to it and he got physically violent. Then he should face the music for doing so. If there is enough evidence to back this up then well I'm sure he will face prison time over this and as well he should. If his arrested was based on accusations alone without compelling testimony or evidence that makes it creditable if was a member of the jury I won't find him guilty. I think if it was a case of consent being turned into a case of he forced it upon me and because I was uncomfortable I want to get payback and ruin his life over it. It hurts the creditably for real victims who need to be heard and I find it sad. But given they are charging him and there being more then one victim speaking out if they are not connected or have contacted each other then there might be creditable evidence and its possible he might be gulity of what hes being charged with. Either way if hes innocent I hope it doesn't ruin his acting career. If he is guilty maybe he should stay out of acting.

    I think the me to movement is very important. But it needs a mission to help victims and also change practices and way people see these issues and not focus on pointing fingers. Focus on the victims how the change society to be better is the key. Focus on love not vengence is also something that would help too. Also the importance of victims speaking up and being heard and not hiding it in shame there is no shame in reporting what has happened to us even if you feel it will stigma you and your family at least don't allow it to happen to others and their families. Yeah we might not want people to know what has happened to us. But what if it happens to others? I feel we have a responsibility men or women both genders to report these things to the police and have the perps caught a lot sooner and I think a lot of these issues could be dealt and perps caught a lot quicker. I think we need to teach this to our children. The Me Too Movement could help. In this effort.

    Maybe it should be a law you have to report what has happened to you I know it might sound like I'm uncaring but victims not speaking up can cause more victims and in some cases not reporting it could lead to future victims not just being sexual assault victims but lead to future victims being murdered when it could have been stopped if you had just spoken up given a description of the attacker and maybe the murder victim on the news six months later would still be alive. What we do or not do can cause far reaching consequences. The action of not reporting you have been attacked can effect so many people and how many could still be alive or didn't have to be a victim had the police knew about it sooner and the police was able to track them down before they hurt anyone else? Well I'm thinking a lot of these types of crimes could be reduced and many lives saved. Many people don't report out of shame and this is an issue that does need to be addressed badly. If it helps stop these crimes and get these criminals off the streets then its a responsibility to put aside out shame for the greater good. Don't be the victim help stop the victimization. This is my advice to everyone on this forums and visitors of these forums. If your a victim of a serious crime like this and you feel shame. Put that aside stop the victimization by speaking up. Lives can depend on this. The consequences of not reporting are far reaching If there was one victim there shouldn't be a second or a third or forth or fifth or sixth. Its unnecessary. The fact that there are shows a serious problem that does need to be addressed.
    . This shows in this situation with the Tkuvma actor, I'm willing to bet a lot of these women only reported this recently.
    Maybe do to the me to moment inspired them. I'm not judging them for not reporting it or shouldn't but at the same time I feel people need to do so regardless of feeling shame or not.

    As a summery on these six women who accused him of doing this they either they got themselves into that situation willingly by what I read or got tricked their mistake. I personally think was they might not have been careful and given the nature of these lessons if someone is offering love making lessons or private lessons that involve it in the case of dramatic plays and training for steamy scenes in movies. You should always bring along a buddy to make a potential perp think twice have them come with you and keep an eye out. For the people offering the lessons a form of contract or consent form should be a standard for legal protection so both parties know what they can or cannot do. I might be misunderstanding the context of this. So I could be wrong. I wasn't there so I have no idea what happened the police know more.

    This does not mean they cannot use him. Will cryptic avoid using him maybe. But it depends on the charges and how serious of time he could be doing. If hes found innocent or if they are dropped then cryptic should use him if hes willing to do it. I don't think they will use him. Or have plans for him to come to Sto. But who knows.

    He isn't the only startrek actor has been that has been arrested. Kes's Actor got charged with indecent exposer some time back and might have some mental issues now which is so sad. Burhams Mothers actor got arrested and faces a Felony Charge right now. Over having drug residue or drugs in her purse might be an addict. I think its extreme and I hope she gets out of that one because a felony should only be for those who directly hurt others or commit crime just to feed their addictions. This might mean she won't be seen in season three of discovery.





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  • thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    Personally I think they told more about Tkuvmas past and story in the comics.
    What they could do is add in a discovery Klingon faction. Missed opportunity but given they are short on devs to make all the content they basically have done one sided federation storyline. A Klingon Starting point and questline maybe leading into the potential klingon civil war.. Like they have been doing with the other missions these could also be released in the ame format as the discovery faction missions. So all factions can play them. But maybe have your character from the kdf discovery faction work directly with L'rell herself. The beauty of this if cbs allows it is to have her survive in the 25th century as klingons have much longer lifespans B'vat was alive and active in the 23rd century. So they can easily have her somehow still alive in the 25th century as a quest giver. So yeah I don't think Tkuvma would be as interesting as L'rell The Mother of the United Empire. She could be an inspiration for the kdf player too. Could work her into a revamp of the Klingon story missions. So they do have potential to explore more of the klingon side of things. But I fear the federation bias might keep them from doing more with the Klingon side of things on the discovery content but they seem to have been releasing starfleet and kdf vessels throughout this. So at least they are getting ships. But they should have had a discovery faction of their own. I hope they consider adding one in.

    So they don't need Tkuvma, they have plenty of stuff they can do with the Klingon empire. Hell I think season two of discovery would be a great way to get a discovery klingon captain to the 25th century. So even without T'kumma they can do discovery Klingon stories.. Plus I think they have copied and pasted some of the dialog from the show into the one TFO. So he is part of the game with that at least.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    starkaos wrote: »
    It is better to balance your news content between liberal and conservative sources not just living in a bubble of just liberal or conservative news. Watch Jimmy Dore a few times and Tim Pool for my liberal news content and a couple of shows on Fox for my conservative news content. Also watch Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan, but not for my news content.

    Then you've missed the point. Fox News isn't journalism, it's propaganda: it's estimated they have 50 minutes of actual journalism every day; the rest is pundits yelling about how socialists and immigrants and Muslims and other bogeymen du jour are destroying the country. CNN and MSNBC are better--their pundits at least cite their sources--but not by much.

    You want accurate news, start with Associated Press newspapers and Reuters. In fact, here's a chart. You're welcome.
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  • aboundedorc0#8479 aboundedorc0 Member Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    Wow, sadly it comes as no surprise to hear the phrases "SJW" and "Snowflake" trotted out by those who seemingly vent before considering their own words in response to these semi-regular celebrity fails????

    The link just says that he was arrested over allegations of sexual assault of female students. That is nothing to sneeze at for damned certain and yes the results will remain to be seen; however scapegoating - - in advance - - anyone expressing concern over this actors situation using the SJW or Snowflake tags does not merit much respect from me for those who are also just as swift to act upon their own inner voices in these instances.

    No high road to be taken with this tactic!
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,247 Community Moderator
    Well, this thread is just going horribly. /Thread
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