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[PC] Mirror Crossfield Science Destroyer R&D Promotion!

ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 1,825 Administrator
Crossing over from a dark universe, the Mirror Crossfield Science Destroyer - the same ship Captain "Killy" commanded as the I.S.S. Discovery - could be yours in this limited time R&D Promotion! Here's what she can do under your command:

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11113743
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  • bubblegirl2015bubblegirl2015 Member Posts: 661 Arc User
    edited March 20
    Really Hard Pass..consoles don't look bad but what an ugly looking ship. Well, some people trash looking others gold.​​
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  • angarus1angarus1 Member Posts: 591 Arc User
    I like the different nacelle style!
  • bridgernbridgern Member Posts: 687 Arc User
    Thanks but you can keep your 150$ (during event) and 300$ if not ship that can only be used on one character, it is time to live up the "The Account is the player" phrase.
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  • jagdtier44jagdtier44 Member Posts: 190 Arc User
    bridgern wrote: »
    Thanks but you can keep your 150$ (during event) and 300$ if not ship that can only be used on one character, it is time to live up the "The Account is the player" phrase.

    So much this.. it's disgusting how much these ships cost to obtain, its even more disgusting that they are than character only unlocks.
  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,075 Arc User
    I'm still waiting for the next Mega Bundle, and as I have more than 20 toons on my account, I'm not interested in ships that are not account unlocks…
    And I'm still waiting for T6 Dyson Science Destroyers.
  • nikolunusnikolunus Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    Okay so this begs a good question now, Will the dyson ships be given an exsperimental weapon slot since this new promotion ship does the same thing as them? Cause a Proton based exsperimental weapon added to those would be amazing.
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  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 937 Arc User
    Considering they fixed the mechanics for the T5 Dyson science ships a little while back, I'm hoping they'll make the T6 version, for sure.
    Hoping for 25th Century shuttles since 2010 :)
  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 937 Arc User
    It's too bad that Crossfields are relagated to Lockboxes and R&D events.
    I know that it's very CBS All Access Paywall, but come on guys....

    If there's a cool ship for Picard in his upcoming new series, is it also going to be something we'll have to pour money into as well?
    Hoping for 25th Century shuttles since 2010 :)
  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,075 Arc User
    Well, if enough people will ask for T6 Dysons, then it will be seen as profitable investment, so the more talk about it the better...
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,294 Arc User
    edited March 20
    @ambassadorkael#6946 - could you please clarfiy a query as to whether the Mirror Crossfield will be capable of using the same 'spore jump' transwarp animation as it's Lock box counterpart, the 'Spearhead' Crossfield?
    And will it share the spore jump animation when using the Lorca Maneuver console ability (from the Spearhead), if one were to equip said console on this ship?
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  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    saber1973a wrote: »
    Well, if enough people will ask for T6 Dysons, then it will be seen as profitable investment, so the more talk about it the better...
    Yeah...

    Ask those players who have been talking about a T6 Nova how well that worked out...
  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    No thanks.

    Though i'd love the different parts to kitbash my Crossfield (which in itself cost me a bloody fortune) the price and means of getting these promo ships is frankly and insult to the players.

    "THE ACCOUNT IS THE PLAYER".............so much for that then... :|
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    A prelude to future Dyson Science Destroyers/Warbirds tier 6 versions?
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,536 Arc User
    I have to say, I love that the reaction to a release of a new version of a hero ship is basically, "t-6 dyson when?"

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 46,923 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    I have to say, I love that the reaction to a release of a new version of a hero ship is basically, "t-6 dyson when?"

    Well... it uses the same mechanics as the T5 Dysons. So naturally the train of thought leads to T6 Dysons.
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,536 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nightken wrote: »
    I have to say, I love that the reaction to a release of a new version of a hero ship is basically, "t-6 dyson when?"

    Well... it uses the same mechanics as the T5 Dysons. So naturally the train of thought leads to T6 Dysons.
    yeah but the fact it seems, to me at least, be the main thing on people's mind not the actual ship being pushed is fairly amusing.


    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • totenmettotenmet Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11113743-mirror-crossfield-science-destroyer-r&d-promo!

    Data is incomplete. The console and trait specific stats are missing.

    I also doubt the usability of this ship. Switching between tac and sci makes no sense. A ship build is determined by more than Boff seats. For TAC you use a different spec tree different traits doffs etc then for a SCI. So just switching the Ships operation modus does not automaticaly switch all teh other build variables. If you have specced for TAC using teh SCI modus will be not optimal and vise versa.

    So The idea is maby fun, but the implementation is not.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 3,020 Arc User
    edited March 20
    totenmet wrote: »
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11113743-mirror-crossfield-science-destroyer-r&d-promo!

    Data is incomplete. The console and trait specific stats are missing.

    I also doubt the usability of this ship. Switching between tac and sci makes no sense. A ship build is determined by more than Boff seats. For TAC you use a different spec tree different traits doffs etc then for a SCI. So just switching the Ships operation modus does not automaticaly switch all teh other build variables. If you have specced for TAC using teh SCI modus will be not optimal and vise versa.

    So The idea is maby fun, but the implementation is not.

    The stats are probably dependant on skills.
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  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    I have to say, I love that the reaction to a release of a new version of a hero ship is basically, "t-6 dyson when?"
    Probably because T6 Dyson Science Destroyers will be in the C-Store and thus much more likely to be a purchase for people in the thread.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,166 Arc User
    I'd love to see the uptake numbers given how much the R&D materials are being pumped into the game thanks to the poorly thought out endeavour "rewards"

    There's just no value in even gambling on the boxes for a single character locked ship.

    Maybe its time the gamblebox ships went to proper account bound status.

    Sadly there's probably just enough disco fanatics willing to lose money to justify keeping the status quo in terms of gamblebox ships with regards to the "account is player" slogan.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 46,923 Arc User
    totenmet wrote: »
    I also doubt the usability of this ship. Switching between tac and sci makes no sense. A ship build is determined by more than Boff seats. For TAC you use a different spec tree different traits doffs etc then for a SCI. So just switching the Ships operation modus does not automaticaly switch all teh other build variables. If you have specced for TAC using teh SCI modus will be not optimal and vise versa.

    So The idea is maby fun, but the implementation is not.

    Its the first time since the introduction of the Dyson Destroyers that they've experimented with a ship that can transform beween dedicated Science to a more Tactical ship.

    Some might like that flexability. Maybe they want to have a Grav Well 3 and then switch to unleashing a top end Torp Spread or something.

    Is it going to be the end all ultimate science ship?
    No.
    I've got a couple fleetmates who are married to the Temporal Multi Mission Science Vessel. Nothing is really going to top that for science ability. Reason? Full temporal mechanic yellow light. No other science ship comes close for sheer space magic.

    But the fun aspect of this game is you don't NEED 100% optimized builds for max numbers to participate in most content. Does it help? Maybe, but it is not an absolute requirement. If someone wants to fly a Mirror Crossfield they can.

    While it does suck that its gonna be an R&D Promo rather than an Infinity Box thing... eh... Cryptic still needs to be able to make money to make more content. There are two ways people can get this ship anyways.
    • Spend real money
    • Grind out ECs

    While neither one is well liked by people... it keeps the lights on and, while harder than lockbox ships, is still relatively available to many. If someone wants it, they can try to get it. Its not as if it is a REQUIRED thing.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out a Delta Pack, Temporal Pack, and Gamma Pack
    The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 8,433 Arc User
    What we need is a Hybrid Science/Engineering Ship. Oh, the possibilities for the 'Mirror Incursion' Event! :)
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  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited March 20
    jagdtier44 wrote: »
    bridgern wrote: »
    Thanks but you can keep your 150$ (during event) and 300$ if not ship that can only be used on one character, it is time to live up the "The Account is the player" phrase.

    So much this.. it's disgusting how much these ships cost to obtain, its even more disgusting that they are than character only unlocks.
    EDIT: lol... TRIBBLE is TRIBBLE. How cute. I'm going to leave it in though. Makes me smile.

    It's not shocking though. CBS decided to lock the series behind a paywall. That dramatically cut the audience who'd have an emotional connection to TRIBBLE. The promotions continue to whittle down that potential audience.

    Since CBS made profit by high sales / low margin impossible Cryptic is stuck going the opposite route and make profit by low sales / high margin. TRIBBLE is a long term loser for Cryptic at least until TRIBBLE comes out from behind the paywall - that could be years.

    I can't blame Cryptic for making do as best they can. This entire scenario is going to happen again when CBS releases the Patrick Stewart series... also behind a paywall and so also dramatically locking in a very small audience.

    I saw the first season of TRIBBLE. I came away pretty ambiguous about it but then I've been ambiguous on every franchise since STAS. I grew over time to love each new franchise. CBS never gave me a chance to go through that process.

    So I'm a non-starter for Cryptic with the current promotions, I'm sure they know I'm not alone, and that too is ok. It's just entertainment, this is just a game.

    If I were paid to I couldn't think of a more effective way combining the worst of a streaming service with the worst of a public network. CBS pulled it off though.

    At least Disney (just this week actually) had the sense to increase their content depth by buying big IP catalogs.
  • jagdtier44jagdtier44 Member Posts: 190 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nightken wrote: »
    I have to say, I love that the reaction to a release of a new version of a hero ship is basically, "t-6 dyson when?"

    Well... it uses the same mechanics as the T5 Dysons. So naturally the train of thought leads to T6 Dysons.
    yeah but the fact it seems, to me at least, be the main thing on people's mind not the actual ship being pushed is fairly amusing.

    Yeah it is to a point, but considering as said it has similar mechanics.. add to that that if they released 3 Dysons per Fed/KDF/Rom/Jem that even that mega bundle would still be cheaper than getting a single ship for a single character. hmm.. 12 ships across my entire account.. 1 ship for 1 toon.. that will probably still run close to DOUBLE the price of a 4 faction 12 ship mega bundle.
  • tomilaktomilak Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    Having spoken to people who have done this, I for one do not have the $$$ to sink into enough boxes to get a ship, so I am forced to pass. when it becomes more reasonable and its not a 50/50 gamble, I then will find some $$$ to get a few.
  • tarran61tarran61 Member Posts: 820 Arc User
    If CBS put it behind a paywall like an R$D box its DOA for me and my friends. As much as I hate lockbox TRIBBLE it would have been a better choice. Even if the ships are not account wide make the trait so. We got the ship, let one alt use it but everyone else use its trait once its unlocked, even if that is just on the Fed/Rom/KDF side based on the faction of the ship.
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  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    Though I do like the inclusion of the Dyson Destroyer gimmick, it's essentially a reskinned ship put in the most expensive loot box the game has; no thanks.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,294 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    totenmet wrote: »
    I also doubt the usability of this ship. Switching between tac and sci makes no sense. A ship build is determined by more than Boff seats. For TAC you use a different spec tree different traits doffs etc then for a SCI. So just switching the Ships operation modus does not automaticaly switch all teh other build variables. If you have specced for TAC using teh SCI modus will be not optimal and vise versa.

    So The idea is maby fun, but the implementation is not.

    Its the first time since the introduction of the Dyson Destroyers that they've experimented with a ship that can transform beween dedicated Science to a more Tactical ship.

    Some might like that flexability. Maybe they want to have a Grav Well 3 and then switch to unleashing a top end Torp Spread or something.

    Is it going to be the end all ultimate science ship?
    No.
    I've got a couple fleetmates who are married to the Temporal Multi Mission Science Vessel. Nothing is really going to top that for science ability. Reason? Full temporal mechanic yellow light. No other science ship comes close for sheer space magic.

    But the fun aspect of this game is you don't NEED 100% optimized builds for max numbers to participate in most content. Does it help? Maybe, but it is not an absolute requirement. If someone wants to fly a Mirror Crossfield they can.

    While it does suck that its gonna be an R&D Promo rather than an Infinity Box thing... eh... Cryptic still needs to be able to make money to make more content. There are two ways people can get this ship anyways.
    • Spend real money
    • Grind out ECs

    While neither one is well liked by people... it keeps the lights on and, while harder than lockbox ships, is still relatively available to many. If someone wants it, they can try to get it. Its not as if it is a REQUIRED thing.

    Interesting point though.... how DOES one make an effective build in this scenario? I mean, to quote Chief O'Brien, when you try doing two things at once you wind up doing neither very well.....
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  • tacticoolfugga#9235 tacticoolfugga Member Posts: 356 Arc User
    Haven’t been given a whole lot of reasons to actually spend money lately. This is a double whammy. Not interested in the R&D packs and their odds of winning and not interested in anything ST:D.
  • turkeysandvichsturkeysandvichs Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    Sadly, I'll have to give this a pass. If it was an account unlock, I'd consider it.

    However, this does rekindle my hope for T6 Dyson Science Destroyers.
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