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[PC] Updates to Hair and Skin Textures

ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 1,825 Administrator
We're making some updates to hair and skin textures in the game, which PC users will start seeing tomorrow.

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11073633
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  • angarus1angarus1 Member Posts: 591 Arc User
    Exciting! I hope the results on my characters will look promising.
  • mithrosnomoremithrosnomore Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    In some of the images the change is quite noticeable. More like two different colors than an adjustment.

    I imagine a whole lot of players will be dropping by the tailor to either "fix" their hair color after the change or just to try out something totally new.

    Still, this is good.

  • iamynaughtiamynaught Member Posts: 1,076 Arc User
    Very interesting. The characters look less 'plastic-y'. Nice job.
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  • alexsanderitaalexsanderita Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    Keep up the good work!! I expecially like how you simulated the 3D depth of skin.
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  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    Have some of these already gone live? I noted that my borg main toon's eyes and skin look considerably better than before - the solid color eye option I use looks like it's translucent now instead of solid, which is a very nice effect.

  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 5,900 Arc User
    Is my computer broken??? But in these "old" and "new" pictures....the hair look like totally different colors???
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  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 904 Arc User
    The better performance is most welcomed. I might've just read over it previously but this is a bit of a shocker announcement to me. I'm surprised it hadn't been promoted more since STO is long in the tooth. I hope this looks good & works out. There will be lots more Tailor visits I'm sure.
  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 995 Arc User
    This is super cool and all, but do we get Killy's hair? We should.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 3,230 Arc User
    This is super cool and all, but do we get Killy's hair? We should.

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  • unclegoldieunclegoldie Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    This is super cool and all, but do we get Killy's hair? We should.

    Along with this, what I'd really like is Tilly's (Mary Wiseman's) "mane" (for lack of a better term). Gotta love all them curls. :)
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  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    Looks nice. Many of the old hairstyles looked a bit plastic.
  • trillbuffettrillbuffet Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    Yeah I wanna know how much you guys pay to make the hair darker I can do that too.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 9,637 Arc User
    edited January 23
    Okay, I have to be 'that targ'... I don't see the difference. Aside from 'new' being darker?
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,152 Arc User
    edited January 23
    What I want is more hairstyles. Male toons lack long hair styles.
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    Does this mean my caitain, might get a few extra colors
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  • knochengeigerknochengeiger Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    Also please disable the long hair cuts for Jem'Hadar... they make them look like trailerpark trash and i don't think any Jem'Hadar ever wore their hair like that in canon shows.
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 604 Arc User
    Also please disable the long hair cuts for Jem'Hadar... they make them look like trailerpark trash and i don't think any Jem'Hadar ever wore their hair like that in canon shows.

    If someone wants their Jem'Hadar to have long hair. So be it! Leave it alone. Instead advocate for shorter hair styles so you can use them for your character. Thanks. :)
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  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,407 Arc User
    blitzy4 wrote: »
    Does this mean my caitain, might get a few extra colors

    Its been 9 years.... how about just ONE, true, iconic M'Ress hairstyle for Caitians?
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,289 Arc User
    edited January 23
    Also please disable the long hair cuts for Jem'Hadar... they make them look like trailerpark trash and i don't think any Jem'Hadar ever wore their hair like that in canon shows.

    So what? Since was was "they didn't look like that in canon" of any relevance to the game's player-characters?

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  • snowwolf#0563 snowwolf Member Posts: 677 Arc User
    Well, it looks HORRIBLE. The new hair texture is awful, well calling it a texture is exaggerating. It's simply a black color, looks like they used the bucket tool in Microsoft Paint. Using any lighter shade of black turns into light grey.

    So yeah, it's awful... Thanks a lot......
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    Dukan'Rex would like to have a word with you about your "not in canon" assertion.

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  • jiralinriajiralinria Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    Oh wow! The hairstyle update is amazing! Wished since years they'd do that and now they have, thank you! <3
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 2,639 Arc User
    edited January 23
    Well, it looks HORRIBLE. The new hair texture is awful, well calling it a texture is exaggerating. It's simply a black color, looks like they used the bucket tool in Microsoft Paint. Using any lighter shade of black turns into light grey.

    So yeah, it's awful... Thanks a lot...…
    I am going with awful as well. On mine the colour looks much better but due to the loss of MSAA it looks x10 worse. My entire screen is smooth apart from the hair which has massive aliasing problems and as it’s the only part of the screen without anti-aliasing it stands out badly.

    It might look better on low end PC’s but not on high end PC's. Anyone found a fix for this as its a pretty bad downgrade in graphics. I would go as far as to say the hair now looks worse then when I was in in Beta over 9 years ago.

    If only I could get anti-aliasing working on the hair then it would be an improvement.


  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,036 Arc User
    edited January 23
    So far, this update is a mixed bag. The difference in hair/skin is TBD for me personally as I will have to do some changes to my characters to get the look that I want and re-evaluate from there.

    I can immediately, however, notice that multiple outfit pieces are fundamentally broken visually now. Particularly the shiny/reflective/metallic look of multiple costume pieces is now gone. The lobi Jem'hadar outfit looks matte now instead of it's old reflective/shiny look. The same is true of the TOS Tellarite (c-store outfit) pieces. I will continue checking my costumes on various characters and boffs but I'm honestly fearing the worst right now.

    EDIT 1: Hirogen armor also looks completely dull now. It almost looks like a wool sweater. TBH, without even focusing much on how hair and skin looks now, I think we simply need a revert and a rethink to this update.

    EDIT 2: Saw this on Reddit. I think the image says it all.

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  • theomenntheomenn Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    How the hair looks is a downgrade. Also it looks if a character has burned skin if you do not have a beard.
  • guriphuguriphu Member Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited January 23
    Revert.
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  • finsches123finsches123 Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    I like the new hair, finally my char has black hair rather than shiny dark grey.
    Please do the same to eyebrows and beards, it looks pretty weird right now.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,036 Arc User
    Alright guys, here's some good news. Kael just said on the livestream that they are aware of all the bugs caused by the graphical update and are considering rolling it back. Here's hoping.
  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 904 Arc User
    I luv the premise of this but it seems the results that are being mentioned are a mixed bag of okay to poor execution. I don't understand why this & other stuff isn't flushed-out on Tribble since that is its reason.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 5,900 Arc User
    edited January 24
    Alright guys, here's some good news. Kael just said on the livestream that they are aware of all the bugs caused by the graphical update and are considering rolling it back. Here's hoping.

    Are they reverting it back???? It will save me a TON of time in the tailor adjusting colors on hair, especially. But some uniforms (like on my Jem'Hadars) colors look wrong.
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