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Picard series might only be 8 episodes?

somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,316 Arc User
edited January 4 in Ten Forward
So wwwwaaaayyyy back in June, when the first rumors of other Trek shows beyond Discovery started to surface, we got this bit of info about what the new shows would be

http://trekcore.com/blog/2018/06/kurtzman-signs-cbs-deal-to-expand-star-trek-tv-development/
  • A series set at Starfleet Academy from creators Stephanie Savage and Josh Schwartz. The duo most recently developed the CW’s reboot of “Dynasty” and previously created shows like “Gossip Girl” and Hulu and Marvel’s “Runaways.”
  • A limited series whose plot details are being kept under wraps.
  • A limited series based around the “Wrath of Khan” story. Khan’s full name is Khan Noonien Singh. He was famously portrayed by Ricardo Montalbán in both the original series episode “Space Seed” and again in the film “Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan.” Benedict Cumberbatch then played the character in the 2013 film “Star Trek Into Darkness.”
  • An animated series whose plot details are being kept under wraps.
At the same time as the original rumor announcement, this came out(linked to in the first link)
There are no specifics about any of the projects at the moment though there is talk that one of the first shows would be an eight-episode limited series spinoff. Kurtzman and Co. may reveal some details at the upcoming Comic-Com convention.
This was seemingly confirmed later in October when CBS trademarked 6 new Trek shows
https://comicbook.com/startrek/2018/10/25/star-trek-new-tv-series-rumor-trademarks-cbs/
  • Revolution
  • Starfleet Academy
  • Destiny
  • Reliant
  • Ceti Alpha V
  • Lower Decks
Now back in December, Alex Kurtzman said this
https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/10/star-trek-picard-series-different/
Only Stewart has been cast in the spin-off so far, Kurtzman added. “The writers’ room has broken about eight episodes and we’re moving quickly, and I couldn’t be more excited about it,”
Only the Picard and Khan series were described as limited, and one of them was described as being 8 episodes, and we know from what Nicholas Meyer has said that Khan was only three episodes, and we have this same "8 episodes" thing being mentioned by Kurtzman, and the Picard show is one of the first things coming out as originally rumored.

Given that the other rumored shows turned out to be true, its possible that this Picard show may be a rather short thing after all.
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  • azrael605azrael605 Member Posts: 8,976 Arc User
    edited January 4
    Last I heard the Picard was supposed to be multi-season maybe it's 8 episodes in the season
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 9,600 Arc User
    That's not unusual for a streaming show, see Netflix' "Defenders". We don't know how long the episodes will be, could be hour longs.
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,316 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Last I heard the Pickard was supposed to be multi-season maybe it's 8 episodes in the season
    Possible. If Picard is an ambassador like some people suspect it might have smaller seasons were each one is one one political thing he works through.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,363 Arc User
    Stewart is getting a bit old. 8 episodes is probably enough.
    Not that it matters, I'm not paying CBS to watch Trek.
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  • azrael605azrael605 Member Posts: 8,976 Arc User
    Well I am, so I cancel you out.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 8,215 Arc User
    Rumors about rumors that date back to before DSC even came out, and long before Patrick Stewart made his announcement.

    Y'all are making an awful lot of soup from one bone that might not even exist...
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 3,168 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Last I heard the Picard was supposed to be multi-season maybe it's 8 episodes in the season

    It'll only be 'muti-season' if there's enough viewers who sub for CBS to say "Yeah, lets keep making this..." like any streaming show.
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  • azrael605azrael605 Member Posts: 8,976 Arc User
    > @jonsills said:
    > Rumors about rumors that date back to before DSC even came out, and long before Patrick Stewart made his announcement.
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    > Y'all are making an awful lot of soup from one bone that might not even exist...

    These aren't rumors, they start production in a few weeks.
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  • azrael605azrael605 Member Posts: 8,976 Arc User
    > @crypticarmsman said:
    > azrael605 wrote: »
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    > Last I heard the Picard was supposed to be multi-season maybe it's 8 episodes in the season
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    > It'll only be 'muti-season' if there's enough viewers who sub for CBS to say "Yeah, lets keep making this..." like any streaming show.

    The other announced show The Lower Decks has recieved a 2 season contract before production has even started. Keep trying to doomsay all you want, this is happening.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 3,168 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @crypticarmsman said:
    > azrael605 wrote: »
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    > Last I heard the Picard was supposed to be multi-season maybe it's 8 episodes in the season
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    > It'll only be 'muti-season' if there's enough viewers who sub for CBS to say "Yeah, lets keep making this..." like any streaming show.

    The other announced show The Lower Decks has recieved a 2 season contract before production has even started. Keep trying to doomsay all you want, this is happening.

    Who's 'doomsaying'? It's just a fact of the entertainment business.

    Examole the 4th JJ Abrams Star Trek film was greenlit before Star Trek: Beyond released. After that underperformed at the box office, JJ ST 4 suddenly went into development hell (and I'm talking before the situation where Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth basically said: "Hey, we have a signed contract to be paid <X> dollars, if you stick to it we'll do the film...")

    If there's anything certain in Hollywood (and Canada and Florida); it's that when it comes to expensive projects, NOTHING is certain.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,623 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    Rumors about rumors that date back to before DSC even came out, and long before Patrick Stewart made his announcement.

    Y'all are making an awful lot of soup from one bone that might not even exist...

    Jonsills, this is the Internet! Being the voice of reason is illegal! Or something.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,617 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    The other announced show The Lower Decks has recieved a 2 season contract before production has even started. Keep trying to doomsay all you want, this is happening.

    But that is more likely due to Rick and Morty fame rather than Star Trek fame. Mike McMahon has writer credit for Something Ricked This Way Comes (episode with the devil), Total Rickall (episode with neural parasites), and The Rickshank Redemption (Season 3 Premiere).

    If Lower Decks is half as good as Rick and Morty, then it would still be far better than the first season of Discovery.
  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,316 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    But that is more likely due to Rick and Morty fame rather than Star Trek fame. Mike McMahon has writer credit for Something Ricked This Way Comes (episode with the devil), Total Rickall (episode with neural parasites), and The Rickshank Redemption (Season 3 Premiere).

    If Lower Decks is half as good as Rick and Morty, then it would still be far better than the first season of Discovery.
    That, and, it being an animated comedy show means there doesn't really need to be a plot, and they don't have to deal with the fact PIcard costs a billion dollars just to have him sneeze as an extra in a movie.

    Also, the guy writing Lower Decks is the game guy who wrote the "Escape Artist" show Trek with Mudd, so, if you liked that... you might like Lower Decks.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 8,215 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    These aren't rumors, they start production in a few weeks.
    The part that isn't a rumor is that Patrick Stewart is starring in a show about Jean-Luc Picard.

    Literally everything else said about it, from trying to reconcile his show with previous rumors all the way to supposition about the length of the first season, is just more rumor. What's more, it's rumor based on rumor, thus making it doubly untrustworthy.

    I mean, if y'all really want to work yourselves into a tizzy over something on which you have no solid data, well, there are sillier things even than this to get all het up about, I suppose (mostly in the realm of politics, so the less said about them the better, I think). But don't expect to be taken seriously at this point.
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  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    They are in all likelyhood only producing 8 episode and seeing what happens because let's be frank, Patrick Stewart is bloody expensive. They are not gonna do what ST3 did and promise a giant budget before seeing if it's a money maker or not. CBS learned from Paramount's mistake.
  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,316 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    They are in all likelyhood only producing 8 episode and seeing what happens because let's be frank, Patrick Stewart is bloody expensive. They are not gonna do what ST3 did and promise a giant budget before seeing if it's a money maker or not. CBS learned from Paramount's mistake.
    Stewart is also like 78 years old... gotta give the old man a break, he probably isn't up for the same kind of stuff he was doing 20 years ago.
  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,180 Arc User
    I like Stewart, don't get me wrong. He seems like a decent guy, and he can read a script into the camera. I just don't find him to be all that great an actor. His characters all come across as the same. Like Tom Cruse or Robert DiNiro: you get the same character in every movie.

    Star Trek's curse didn't work on him. In fact, he got the reverse of it. Trek launched him into the upper ranks of the elite, whereas many other Trek stars fared far worse. I jut don't understand why, unless it's the fact that chicks dig bald dudes.
  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 33,823 Arc User
    brian334 wrote: »
    I like Stewart, don't get me wrong. He seems like a decent guy, and he can read a script into the camera. I just don't find him to be all that great an actor. His characters all come across as the same. Like Tom Cruse or Robert DiNiro: you get the same character in every movie.

    Star Trek's curse didn't work on him. In fact, he got the reverse of it. Trek launched him into the upper ranks of the elite, whereas many other Trek stars fared far worse. I jut don't understand why, unless it's the fact that chicks dig bald dudes.

    Sir Patrick Stewart was (and still is) a prominent Shakespearean actor on London's West End even before Star Trek. While Shakespearean acting is very different from most acting in modern cinema, it requires a much better base theatrical ability IMO. What you're talking about isn't a lack of range - it's type-casting. Hollywood associates Sir Patrick with heroic roles, so that's all they offer him. He has played nefarious characters before - namely Scrooge in the film adaptation of A Christmas Carol. By contrast, Sir Ian McKellan (sp?) is on par with Sir Patrick (also a Shakespearean Actor), but is given a much wider range of roles; from Magneto in X-Men to Sherlock Holmes in Holmes.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 9,600 Arc User
    You probably haven't seen Starz' 'Blunt Talk' 😏
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  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,180 Arc User
    Whose whatnow?
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 8,215 Arc User
    You also haven't seen Sir Pat as Sterling in the 1995 movie Jeffrey.

    I guarantee you won't mistake Sterling for Picard, or Avery Bullock in American Dad!, or Gurney Halleck in Dune, or...
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 9,600 Arc User
    > @brian334 said:
    > Whose whatnow?

    Just search for a blunt talk trailer on YT, sadly I can't paste a link on mobile 😒

    Your PatStew experience should vary.
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    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,617 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    You also haven't seen Sir Pat as Sterling in the 1995 movie Jeffrey.

    I guarantee you won't mistake Sterling for Picard, or Avery Bullock in American Dad!, or Gurney Halleck in Dune, or...

    I want a Youtube video where they use Avery Bullock's lines in TNG.
  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,180 Arc User
    Bad Lip Reading could do it
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-patrick-stewarts-picard-series-reveals-new-details-1174452?fbclid=IwAR3_qnG6bBPNhHDtRw4lp9IISkY3mNfAh06KrZ5Mea907FnIHeIIgUN5QrU

    "Kurtzman says Stewart agreed to return only if he could defy what people are used to seeing with Trek. "He threw down an amazing gauntlet and said, 'If we do this, I want it to be so different, I want it to be both what people remember but also not what they're expecting at all, otherwise why do it?' " Kurtzman recalls of their initial discussions for what would become the highly anticipated CBS All Access series."
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 8,215 Arc User
    khan5000 wrote: »
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-patrick-stewarts-picard-series-reveals-new-details-1174452?fbclid=IwAR3_qnG6bBPNhHDtRw4lp9IISkY3mNfAh06KrZ5Mea907FnIHeIIgUN5QrU

    "Kurtzman says Stewart agreed to return only if he could defy what people are used to seeing with Trek. "He threw down an amazing gauntlet and said, 'If we do this, I want it to be so different, I want it to be both what people remember but also not what they're expecting at all, otherwise why do it?' " Kurtzman recalls of their initial discussions for what would become the highly anticipated CBS All Access series."
    Cool! So now people will hate it, blame Kurtzman, and call anyone who likes it "not a true fan". Always good to have a heads-up on things like that.
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,316 Arc User
    News that the new Picard series dealing with the dissolution of the Romulan Star Empire pleases me, and is what I hoped they would do.

    https://trekmovie.com/2019/01/08/star-trek-picard-show-to-deal-with-event-that-radically-altered-galaxy-tng-guest-stars-a-possibility/
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,617 Arc User
    As long as Picard is not the Federation Ambassador to Vulcan, then it should be good. That has to be the most boring position in the Federation.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 33,320 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    As long as Picard is not the Federation Ambassador to Vulcan, then it should be good. That has to be the most boring position in the Federation.
    Not when the delegates come from Romulus! :D
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,172 Arc User
    edited January 9
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