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Okay when should we expect AoD Part 2 to come about, I'm getting excited and wondering when?

thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 425 Arc User
Okay when do you think we will be getting more news on it or when it will be released. Any guesses? We know its going to be some time in January.
Will it be later in the month or soon?
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,311 Arc User
    Given that part 2 is tied to the anniversary, and the winter event goes on to the 17th, at earliest we will see it on the like 22nd.
  • foxman00foxman00 Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    Given that part 2 is tied to the anniversary, and the winter event goes on to the 17th, at earliest we will see it on the like 22nd.

    Im more thinking 29th January or 5th February
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,311 Arc User
    edited January 3
    foxman00 wrote: »
    Im more thinking 29th January or 5th February
    Looking at Cryptic's trend, it would be the 22nd
    1st anniversary - began Feb 2nd
    2nd anniversary - began Feb 2nd
    3rd anniversary - began Jan 31st
    4th anniversary - began Jan 30th
    5th anniversary - began Jan 29th
    6th anniversary - began Jan 28th
    7th anniversary - began Jan 26th
    8th anniversary - began Jan 23rd
    It happens earlier and earlier each time.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,389 Arc User
    edited January 3
    Great, the foundry is just back up too, no doubt it will be down again until almost S17!

    It only goes down with "a new code branch." We've had season updates that didn't result in downtime (11 IIRC) and I think 0.5 releases have had a pretty good track record there too.
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  • mattjohnsonvamattjohnsonva Member Posts: 4,941 Arc User
    Great, the foundry is just back up too, no doubt it will be down again until almost S17!

    It only goes down with "a new code branch." We've had season updates that didn't result in downtime (11 IIRC) and I think 0.5 releases have had a pretty good track record there too.

    I hope so mate, I really do.
  • botc76botc76 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    Ugh. I'm so disappointed with the snail pace and can't even begin to hope the update will be worth any wait.
    As long as they don't start a special reward event, like with the previous attempts to force us to create new characters, I have zero drive to continue playing with my Discovery toon.

    I mean, I'd rather grind points with my Jem Hadar so I can get the last reward sometime.

    Overall I've been so disappointed with this new season that I have barely played since.
    And normally I always play Winterwonderland and not just for the ship, but also because I like it.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 3,696 Arc User
    it'll be on the 24th kids.
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  • marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    My guess would be late January with the anniversary release
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 5,866 Arc User
    My guess would be late January with the anniversary release

    You don't have to guess, it is in that flyer they released the info already, you know.
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  • thunderfoot006thunderfoot006 Member Posts: 4,063 Arc User
    Looking forward to it. AoD was a nice teaser. I'd kinda like to see Cryptic turn back time a bit and release a new AoD Featured Episode every month for all of 2019.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,363 Arc User
    Seeing how little AoD actually gave us, I'm surprised we've not gotten anything new yet.
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited January 6
    Seeing how little AoD actually gave us, I'm surprised we've not gotten anything new yet.
    I'm guessing they are saving it up for the release of part two, because there is so much they have to do like
    new missions and maps. In order to reach their deadlines cannot just rush it fully. We know they didn't have much time to program in a new tutorial with a unique story so they reused the regular fed tutorial and changed things. I think they started on this project sometime after release of victory is life. Which if I recall was released in June. When Cbs offered to allow them to work with it or the team asked to join in. Or whatever happened. You can see this in the way they added in the three races they did. Human Vulcan and Alien. We know they are working on discovery klingon models and I'm hoping those get released with update 2.

    They didn't remove any of the 25th century pieces like the Borg implant or nothing like that. Since its release I think they have had to work hard to work on outfits, ships. new missions, New Racial options those found in discovery for existing races. Possible Reputation rework, maybe programming more races for the age of discovery faction and much more including updating removed missions. And given how many people they have to do it . Which is not many. Maybe the main reason why they started up this new upcoming content Roadmap. As they know players would be wanting to see new content now and this gives them a little breathing room and allows them to delay certain aspects in a manner to where they can finish them.
  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,311 Arc User
    edited January 6
    I'm guessing they are saving it up for the release of part two
    The average story arc in STO has about 7 missions. So I could see part 1 having two missions(accounting for the fact it had a new tutorial), part 2 having 2-3 missions, and part 3 having 2-3 missions, for a total of 7-8 missions. Cryptic has said part 2 is coming with more then one mission, so we know that at least.

    By the time AoD is done, seemingly in May, we will have
    -Discovery era starting experience
    -7 story missions
    -2 TFOs(Defense of Starbase 1 and Limited Engagement)
    -2 events(Battle of Binary Stars and Pahvo Dissension)
    -T6 reputations
    -Random TFO system
    -Personal Endeavor system
    -However many Disco era ships they release by then
    -Disco era Klingon costume parts

    This not accounting for them getting the Klingon war arc revamp done by then.
  • thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 425 Arc User
    I'm guessing they are saving it up for the release of part two
    The average story arc in STO has about 7 missions. So I could see part 1 having two missions(accounting for the fact it had a new tutorial), part 2 having 2-3 missions, and part 3 having 2-3 missions, for a total of 7-8 missions. Cryptic has said part 2 is coming with more then one mission, so we know that at least.

    By the time AoD is done, seemingly in May, we will have
    -Discovery era starting experience
    -7 story missions
    -2 TFOs(Defense of Starbase 1 and Limited Engagement)
    -2 events(Battle of Binary Stars and Pahvo Dissension)
    -T6 reputations
    -Random TFO system
    -Personal Endeavor system
    -However many Disco era ships they release by then
    -Disco era Klingon costume parts

    This not accounting for them getting the Klingon war arc revamp done by then.

    Well its going to be a busy year for them that is for sure. When the picard show comes out they might work on content from that as well. Who knows maybe they could use Short Trek content. Would love to see them add Harry Mudd into the game and guess what they now have a lore friendly way of doing it. Not going to spoil it. But its really something.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,389 Arc User
    edited January 6

    Well its going to be a busy year for them that is for sure. When the picard show comes out they might work on content from that as well. Who knows maybe they could use Short Trek content. Would love to see them add Harry Mudd into the game and guess what they now have a lore friendly way of doing it. Not going to spoil it. But its really something.

    Well recently folks on Ten Forward said that they're wanting to do less A-B-C narratives that take a story through a completely linear way and open things up to smaller side stories that can be picked up and left off. Jumping to the ISS Discovery for the anniversary/part 2 probably featured into that, as one with an eye on the narrative might think that a very Klingon focused episode (ie. her trying to enlist modern KDF houses) would be a direct way of continuing the plot line with J'ula.

    So if Cryptic opts for a little more flexibility over the long term they might be able to bring in more from the IP, without needing long season arcs to lead into every new reference (which also helps in working with an ongoing series which may throw in new developments at a season's notice.) So for example, an episode dealing with DSC could immediately be followed with a stand-alone integration of the Picard-series and be followed with a continuation of the DSC arc and then by an original 2410 tangent or connection between an older series and something from a recent episode (whereas under their usual pattern that would all be four incremental episodes in one arc with other integrations coming in tangentially.) I think it could be a great strategy to do more with the IP (and avoid a little fatigue with ALWAYS building up to something, and thereby always deferring payoff to momentary developments.)
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,311 Arc User
    edited January 6
    Well its going to be a busy year for them that is for sure. When the picard show comes out they might work on content from that as well. Who knows maybe they could use Short Trek content. Would love to see them add Harry Mudd into the game and guess what they now have a lore friendly way of doing it. Not going to spoil it. But its really something.
    Everything I listed is what they are supposed to have done by May, they will have more coming out from June-December.

    Given that Lower Decks seemingly isn't come out this year, and Picard is only supposed to come out late this year, we will probably see at least some of whatever Cryptic originally had planned for after Victory is Life, before they switched it to Age of Discovery, with maybe some Discovery S2 content thrown in later in the year.
  • cxeronockxcxeronockx Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    garaks31 wrote: »

    Oh no, not even more disco! I am old enough to know the 70s and 80s as disco time. Oh yes, we are facing a year full of many bugs.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 46,590 Arc User
    cxeronockx wrote: »
    Oh yes, we are facing a year full of many bugs.

    And how is that different from any other year? I mean we had a whole year where characters were unable to get certain Accolade Unlocked armor visuals right after the Rep System came out. And how about the ongoing issue with the animations on the Intrepid Nacelles and Sector Space? And I'm pretty sure the Mirror Ki'Tang and her wings are still borked....

    By its very nature MMOs have bugs. Every time they fix something, a new one is formed. Old code trying to talk to new code, sometimes things get lost in translation.
    At least Cryptic has a regular schedule for maintenance and bug fixes.

    Why people focus so much on bugs as if it is actually possible to have a bug free MMO... I don't know.
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  • kellmg96#5851 kellmg96 Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    i really hate winter lulls.
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    *Wonders if we will get Dsc Andorians as a playable character...*
  • marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    > @tousseau said:
    > *Wonders if we will get Dsc Andorians as a playable character...*

    I hope so, and Kelpiens for the 25th century would be nice
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 33,320 Arc User
    edited January 8
    I'm more interested in Disco Orions. :p (and by extension playable KDF mini-faction)
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,311 Arc User
    I hope so, and Kelpiens for the 25th century would be nice
    This would be dependent on if Kelpians reach warp by the 25th century.
  • thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited January 9
    I hope so, and Kelpiens for the 25th century would be nice
    This would be dependent on if Kelpians reach warp by the 25th century.

    Given that he serves in starfleet, and it would go against the prime dirrective to remove him from his homeworld if it does not have warp technology. I can imagine that world or the speices on it that isn't kelpian maybe the species that hunts and eats them has warp technology. I have not seen the short trek for Saru. I should at some point. He was allowed to serve in Starfleet and maybe will become the Captain of the Discovery once Pike finishes whatever he has to do on board the ship. As we knew he and spock are going to do a stint on the Discovery. Hmm I did some reading and they are a prewarp civilization, but the speices that prey upon them more then likely does have warp drive. I guess Saru was a unique exception to the prime directive, not going to spoil it.

    I do think we are getting closer to the update, I'm getting the impression if it isn't this week it might be next week.
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  • kellmg96#5851 kellmg96 Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    i really hate winter lulls.
    I hope so, and Kelpiens for the 25th century would be nice
    This would be dependent on if Kelpians reach warp by the 25th century.

    Given that he serves in starfleet, and it would go against the prime dirrective to remove him from his homeworld if it does not have warp technology. I can imagine that world or the speices on it that isn't kelpian maybe the species that hunts and eats them has warp technology. I have not seen the short trek for Saru. I should at some point. He was allowed to serve in Starfleet and maybe will become the Captain of the Discovery once Pike finishes whatever he has to do on board the ship. As we knew he and spock are going to do a stint on the Discovery. Hmm I did some reading and they are a prewarp civilization, but the speices that prey upon them more then likely does have warp drive. I guess Saru was a unique exception to the prime directive, not going to spoil it.

    I do think we are getting closer to the update, I'm getting the impression if it isn't this week it might be next week.
    I have not seen the short trek for Saru. I should at some point.
    and it would go against the prime dirrective to remove him from his homeworld if it does not have warp technology.

    umm, yea, ya should lol
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  • foxman00foxman00 Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    i really hate winter lulls.
    I hope so, and Kelpiens for the 25th century would be nice
    This would be dependent on if Kelpians reach warp by the 25th century.

    Given that he serves in starfleet, and it would go against the prime dirrective to remove him from his homeworld if it does not have warp technology. I can imagine that world or the speices on it that isn't kelpian maybe the species that hunts and eats them has warp technology. I have not seen the short trek for Saru. I should at some point. He was allowed to serve in Starfleet and maybe will become the Captain of the Discovery once Pike finishes whatever he has to do on board the ship. As we knew he and spock are going to do a stint on the Discovery. Hmm I did some reading and they are a prewarp civilization, but the speices that prey upon them more then likely does have warp drive. I guess Saru was a unique exception to the prime directive, not going to spoil it.

    I do think we are getting closer to the update, I'm getting the impression if it isn't this week it might be next week.
    I have not seen the short trek for Saru. I should at some point.
    and it would go against the prime dirrective to remove him from his homeworld if it does not have warp technology.

    umm, yea, ya should lol

    Well, some of the best Starfleet Captains know how to cheat the Prime Directive, without actually breaking it.

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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,311 Arc User
    edited January 9
    foxman00 wrote: »
    Well, some of the best Starfleet Captains know how to cheat the Prime Directive, without actually breaking it.
    The Prime Directive has like a dozen offical exceptions that apply to Saru's people.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Prime_Directive#Inconsistencies_and_Exceptions
    >The Prime Directive had exceptions and allowed for violations if satisfactory reasons were given.
    >The Prime Directive applied to "a living, growing culture". A culture that wasn't may have been exempt.
    >Cultures already contaminated could be "repaired" but the allowed scope of those repairs is unknown.
    >A society that sent a general distress call to any space-faring culture could be exempt.
    >The society already knew of and contacted the Federation (e.g., seeking assistance; treaty matters)
    >The society was previously interfered with by non-Federation citizens (e.g., Klingons) in a manner that would have violated the Prime Directive had it been done by Starfleet personnel

    There's not even a need to cheat it.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,172 Arc User
    foxman00 wrote: »
    Well, some of the best Starfleet Captains know how to cheat the Prime Directive, without actually breaking it.
    The Prime Directive has like a dozen offical exceptions that apply to Saru's people.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Prime_Directive#Inconsistencies_and_Exceptions
    >The Prime Directive had exceptions and allowed for violations if satisfactory reasons were given.
    >The Prime Directive applied to "a living, growing culture". A culture that wasn't may have been exempt.
    >Cultures already contaminated could be "repaired" but the allowed scope of those repairs is unknown.
    >A society that sent a general distress call to any space-faring culture could be exempt.
    >The society already knew of and contacted the Federation (e.g., seeking assistance; treaty matters)
    >The society was previously interfered with by non-Federation citizens (e.g., Klingons) in a manner that would have violated the Prime Directive had it been done by Starfleet personnel

    There's not even a need to cheat it.

    Definitely not - and there is some wonderful future story potential in this. I mean, it's entirely possible that the USS Discovery could run into the Ba'ul at some point. With that in mind:

    - How would Saru feel about it?
    - What would Starfleet's view be? I mean, the Ba'ul were certainly far more technologically advanced than the Kelpiens (although I don't recall it being clear whether they were warp-capable or not). Eitherway, would Starfleet take issue with the Ba'ul preying on the Kelpiens?
    - If Starfleet DID take issue with the Ba'ul preying on the Kelpiens how would it affect the Ba'ul? Is this way of life essential to them?

    I, personally, suspect Starfleet would take issue with it and it could be interesting to see Saru meet them.
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