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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 3,251 Arc User
    Thanks for the kind words, accord and reyan.

    I was just giving my .02. I never play a game if it begins to cause stress to get through it. I always play on the lowest difficulty no matter what game it is and I could care less how the Nightmare difficulty players feel about it.

    Some of us don't care about anything except having fun and playing out a story with as little difficulty as possible. I'm the president of that club *Chuckle*
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  • colonelmarikcolonelmarik Member Posts: 1,449 Arc User
    So... I just finished the mission that gave me the Preeminent gear set (four times, so I have all the bits).

    What's the general opinion of this set? Someone was saying the Bajor set (from the next mission) is superior, but looking at the stats, I'm not convinced.

    Any thoughts?
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  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    You take damage in the Procyon system yes, but it's nothing that you need to equip anything to stop. I was taking like 3-4 pts of damage per tick. I am not sure exactly how it works, but it seemed to stop doing it a little ways into the mission. It's nothing an occasional heal can't fix.

    Whatever the item is that stops that (I didn't know about it) I didn't have it equipped.
    The combination of melting hull and Temporal powers that ignored resistances made that mission a chore when playing a raider.

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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 4,312 Arc User
    edited July 10
    So... I just finished the mission that gave me the Preeminent gear set (four times, so I have all the bits).

    What's the general opinion of this set? Someone was saying the Bajor set (from the next mission) is superior, but looking at the stats, I'm not convinced.

    Any thoughts?

    Preeminent is an alright set if u have a build focus on Tetryon (3-pice). The Bajoran set would focus on disruptor/phaser/plasma and one would only need 2 pieces to grab that bonus. So in short, what’s better depends on what you want to boost. :)
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  • lasoniolasonio Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    This is almost hilarious.

    Just look at what you are saying. Very few of you actually want to realize that the proper problem is you yourself. Because it's all about you, but it's not you. Riiiiiiiight.

    You literally are saying "Hey, there is a problem, i can't do this anymore. I understand that you can do it still, but I can't do it so Dev's make it so i can do it again. I don't care what other players feel, i only care what I feel and I want to do what makes me happy, and I want you to weigh my opinion more then everyone else."

    Even though there are players that are saying. "Hmm, since i am not having this issue in the slightest, I'm actually enjoying pressing a button every once and a while, then maybe it's your build and gear, let's change your build and gear so you can deal with the changes of ViL"

    Some of you to your credit are willing to try it and most have good results, yet there is still that cell of you that are saying. "No, I don't want, can't, or refuse to change myself, because i'm awesome, look what i did up until now. Obviously, someone as great as me can't be wrong. The rest of you must be pay to win or something or no lifers that are dps ****. I'm just a normal player that face rolls everything because i'm great. I want the game to change to make me happy to fit my narrative, because this is my safe space. MY world away from the world where i can be great. So don't change my safe space, my stress reliever because obviously you built your entire business model around how I feel great and how to keep threats and challenges to my happiness to a minimal. All praise be to me."

    That's just insane. And that's what I've read so far from a few of you.

    Everyone accepted it, evolved, changed and moved on.

    Personally, I don't get shot down by npcs even on elite difficulty on my main or on my vanguard. So I don't believe there is anything wrong with the game. I just refuse to believe that even on a new toon that's just a few weeks old I can destroy everything I come in contact with and YOU cannot. I just really don't think I'm that special.

    If I can do all the content on elite, i just don't understand how you can't do it on normal.

    And the only answer is there is something wrong with your builds. And asking the dev's to hotfix or gut or nerf or whatever you want to call it is not the answer when you literally have to change a few small things with your build to survive the ViL era.

    Like it or not the players telling you that it's you build is not wrong. You, the ones telling the devs to destroy what was enacted with the raising of the level cap and weapon levels and all that work, so you can have your mundane stress reliever back, are wrong.

    Literally think about what you are saying. You want players to keep getting stronger and better but npcs to remain the same. So that eventually it will become press a button one shot everything, I win. Yeah that sounds exhilarating.

    This conversation can be about anything you want it to be as long as it's not about devs going back and gutting the system.
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  • ichaerus1ichaerus1 Member Posts: 471 Arc User
    So... I just finished the mission that gave me the Preeminent gear set (four times, so I have all the bits).

    What's the general opinion of this set? Someone was saying the Bajor set (from the next mission) is superior, but looking at the stats, I'm not convinced.

    Any thoughts?

    Preeminent is an alright set if u have a build focus on Tetryon (3-pice). The Bajoran set would focus on disruptor/phaser/plasma and one would only need 2 pieces to grab that bonus. So in short, what’s better depends on what you want to boost. :)

    What makes this set better than Nukara 3 piece + Butterfly episode warp core for Tetryon?
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 4,312 Arc User
    ichaerus1 wrote: »
    What makes this set better than Nukara 3 piece + Butterfly episode warp core for Tetryon?

    I found the 3 piece (+30% tetryon dmg) from the Incontrovertible Defenses set to give more than the +5% bonus dmg of the 2 piece Nukara Strikeforce Technologies set. Big downside though is the 10% bleed through of the shield of the first set.

    I added the Krenim Temporal Manipulation 2 piece in form of console and omni. The 13% you get out of it for tetryon is rather small but the console is quite good and my respective build is a DBB setup where I needed an omni anyway.
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  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,099 Arc User
    I prefer also the Incontrovertible Defenses set bonus, + the nukara set is not very easy to use (dbb or mines + an average console if you don't use epg). The lobi console is also interesting for tet build + the console sticky web
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,222 Community Moderator
    edited July 10
    lasonio wrote: »
    This is almost hilarious.

    Just look at what you are saying. Very few of you actually want to realize that the proper problem is you yourself. Because it's all about you, but it's not you. Riiiiiiiight.

    You literally are saying "Hey, there is a problem, i can't do this anymore. I understand that you can do it still, but I can't do it so Dev's make it so i can do it again. I don't care what other players feel, i only care what I feel and I want to do what makes me happy, and I want you to weigh my opinion more then everyone else."

    Even though there are players that are saying. "Hmm, since i am not having this issue in the slightest, I'm actually enjoying pressing a button every once and a while, then maybe it's your build and gear, let's change your build and gear so you can deal with the changes of ViL"

    Some of you to your credit are willing to try it and most have good results, yet there is still that cell of you that are saying. "No, I don't want, can't, or refuse to change myself, because i'm awesome, look what i did up until now. Obviously, someone as great as me can't be wrong. The rest of you must be pay to win or something or no lifers that are dps ****. I'm just a normal player that face rolls everything because i'm great. I want the game to change to make me happy to fit my narrative, because this is my safe space. MY world away from the world where i can be great. So don't change my safe space, my stress reliever because obviously you built your entire business model around how I feel great and how to keep threats and challenges to my happiness to a minimal. All praise be to me."

    That's just insane. And that's what I've read so far from a few of you.

    Everyone accepted it, evolved, changed and moved on.

    Personally, I don't get shot down by npcs even on elite difficulty on my main or on my vanguard. So I don't believe there is anything wrong with the game. I just refuse to believe that even on a new toon that's just a few weeks old I can destroy everything I come in contact with and YOU cannot. I just really don't think I'm that special.

    If I can do all the content on elite, i just don't understand how you can't do it on normal.

    And the only answer is there is something wrong with your builds. And asking the dev's to hotfix or gut or nerf or whatever you want to call it is not the answer when you literally have to change a few small things with your build to survive the ViL era.

    Like it or not the players telling you that it's you build is not wrong. You, the ones telling the devs to destroy what was enacted with the raising of the level cap and weapon levels and all that work, so you can have your mundane stress reliever back, are wrong.

    Literally think about what you are saying. You want players to keep getting stronger and better but npcs to remain the same. So that eventually it will become press a button one shot everything, I win. Yeah that sounds exhilarating.

    This conversation can be about anything you want it to be as long as it's not about devs going back and gutting the system.

    "Safe space"? :D Excuse me, get off your high horse for a minute.

    Okay, so you can faceroll the game on elite difficulty. Hear that, everyone? @lasonio can faceroll the game on elite difficulty.
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    Most of us here, myself included, play this game because it's fun goofing off in the Star Trek world with our friends, not so we can spend hours a day grinding and micromanaging ourselves into posting a gazillion damage per hit on nightmare difficulty. My builds are good enough to play the content competently on Advanced, and I have a real full-time job that I actually get paid for, plus plenty of extracurricular activities besides moderating this board; I don't need the game trying to be a job, too. You like having the game be a job? More power to ya. You're not the majority of people in this thread, and you're certainly not the majority of people who play the game.

    And for the record, nobody in this thread, aside from a couple people who explicitly said they're running brand new, i.e. underequipped, toons, is saying that this glitch -- because that's what it behaves like, a glitch, not something intentional -- is making gameplay hard to impossible: in fact I've only personally encountered it twice since it first cropped up, and still completed the queue both times. It's just an annoyance to be doing your role on the team and having a good time, and then have your ship suddenly explode without any warning whatsoever.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 3,251 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    lasonio wrote: »
    This is almost hilarious.

    Just look at what you are saying. Very few of you actually want to realize that the proper problem is you yourself. Because it's all about you, but it's not you. Riiiiiiiight.

    You literally are saying "Hey, there is a problem, i can't do this anymore. I understand that you can do it still, but I can't do it so Dev's make it so i can do it again. I don't care what other players feel, i only care what I feel and I want to do what makes me happy, and I want you to weigh my opinion more then everyone else."

    Even though there are players that are saying. "Hmm, since i am not having this issue in the slightest, I'm actually enjoying pressing a button every once and a while, then maybe it's your build and gear, let's change your build and gear so you can deal with the changes of ViL"

    Some of you to your credit are willing to try it and most have good results, yet there is still that cell of you that are saying. "No, I don't want, can't, or refuse to change myself, because i'm awesome, look what i did up until now. Obviously, someone as great as me can't be wrong. The rest of you must be pay to win or something or no lifers that are dps ****. I'm just a normal player that face rolls everything because i'm great. I want the game to change to make me happy to fit my narrative, because this is my safe space. MY world away from the world where i can be great. So don't change my safe space, my stress reliever because obviously you built your entire business model around how I feel great and how to keep threats and challenges to my happiness to a minimal. All praise be to me."

    That's just insane. And that's what I've read so far from a few of you.

    Everyone accepted it, evolved, changed and moved on.

    Personally, I don't get shot down by npcs even on elite difficulty on my main or on my vanguard. So I don't believe there is anything wrong with the game. I just refuse to believe that even on a new toon that's just a few weeks old I can destroy everything I come in contact with and YOU cannot. I just really don't think I'm that special.

    If I can do all the content on elite, i just don't understand how you can't do it on normal.

    And the only answer is there is something wrong with your builds. And asking the dev's to hotfix or gut or nerf or whatever you want to call it is not the answer when you literally have to change a few small things with your build to survive the ViL era.

    Like it or not the players telling you that it's you build is not wrong. You, the ones telling the devs to destroy what was enacted with the raising of the level cap and weapon levels and all that work, so you can have your mundane stress reliever back, are wrong.

    Literally think about what you are saying. You want players to keep getting stronger and better but npcs to remain the same. So that eventually it will become press a button one shot everything, I win. Yeah that sounds exhilarating.

    This conversation can be about anything you want it to be as long as it's not about devs going back and gutting the system.

    "Safe space"? :D Excuse me, get off your high horse for a minute.

    Okay, so you can faceroll the game on elite difficulty. Hear that, everyone? @lasonio can faceroll the game on elite difficulty.
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    Most of us here, myself included, play this game because it's fun goofing off in the Star Trek world with our friends, not so we can spend hours a day grinding and micromanaging ourselves into posting a gazillion damage per hit on nightmare difficulty. My builds are good enough to play the content competently on Advanced, and I have a real full-time job that I actually get paid for, plus plenty of extracurricular activities besides moderating this board; I don't need the game trying to be a job, too. You like having the game be a job? More power to ya. You're not the majority of people in this thread, and you're certainly not the majority of people who play the game.

    And for the record, nobody in this thread, aside from a couple people who explicitly said they're running brand new, i.e. underequipped, toons, is saying that this glitch -- because that's what it behaves like, a glitch, not something intentional -- is making gameplay hard to impossible: in fact I've only personally encountered it twice since it first cropped up, and still completed the queue both times. It's just an annoyance to be doing your role on the team and having a good time, and then have your ship suddenly explode without any warning whatsoever.

    This. So much this.

    I've already said that I don't play games to see how high I can up the difficulty. I prefer not to fight all the time, I just like to goof off and have fun. It's one reason I like open-world games and this MMO. It most certainly is not my 'safe space', but it is my world to goof around in however I like, and I don't like blowing up without knowing what was blowing me up. It's quite annoying to blow up and click the little button that tells you what killed you and have it tell you "No significant damage recorded" No significant damage? Then what blew me up? Someone spitting on my windshield?
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 11,250 Arc User
    lasonio wrote: »
    This is almost hilarious.

    Some of you to your credit are willing to try it and most have good results, yet there is still that cell of you that are saying. "No, I don't want, can't, or refuse to change myself, because i'm awesome, look what i did up until now. Obviously, someone as great as me can't be wrong. The rest of you must be pay to win or something or no lifers that are dps ****. I'm just a normal player that face rolls everything because i'm great. I want the game to change to make me happy to fit my narrative, because this is my safe space. MY world away from the world where i can be great. So don't change my safe space, my stress reliever because obviously you built your entire business model around how I feel great and how to keep threats and challenges to my happiness to a minimal. All praise be to me."

    "All praise be to me." Yeah, that's exactly what your post sounds like. You must really be severely irony-impaired. This really *is* almost hilarious. :)
    Like it or not the players telling you that it's you build is not wrong.

    I've you're going to berate people, at least try and form half-way coherent sentences.
    Literally think about what you are saying. You want players to keep getting stronger and better but npcs to remain the same.

    Another one of your silly strawmen. Or rather -- less glamorous -- you simply don't read what others are saying (fits your egomania, I'd say). For instance, only the other day I specifically said, "For two, if you had bothered to actually read what ppl have written, nobody is complaining about the general difficulty level increase (which inevitably came with ViL). That's all fine: after all, we scaled along with it." But why bother with the actual truth, when pulling a Trump is so much easier, right?!
    Personally, I don't get shot down by npcs even on elite difficulty on my main or on my vanguard.

    When an NPC hits you for 380k, either you die... or you lie. Simple as that. And also, 'not dying' is rather meaningless, and often ere the result of you being the weaker link in the team, not drawing all the aggro. So, before you embarrass yourself even further, get off that high horse. And, unless you show me a HSE parse or something, demonstrating your vast superiority over everyone else, and not dying to boot, I'm just going with you being full of it.
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  • tunebreakertunebreaker Member Posts: 1,091 Arc User
    I'm not seeing mega-crits myself. However, if it's actually true (and given that some reports I've heard/read come from very reliable people, I'm inclined to believe it is), then it is a problem and should be fixed.

    I don't see anyone here talking anything about nerfing elite or making the game less challenging, it's about getting bugs fixed in NORMAL content, and some cases of storyline missions, as far as I see. You know, those things that new players will most likely be experiencing before anything else and then deciding whether to spend any money on game or not.
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    And, unless you show me a HSE parse or something, demonstrating your vast superiority over everyone else, and not dying to boot, I'm just going with you being full of it.
    This; I'm also very interested in seeing some HSE parses.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 4,312 Arc User
    edited July 11
    I'm not seeing mega-crits myself. However, if it's actually true (and given that some reports I've heard/read come from very reliable people, I'm inclined to believe it is), then it is a problem and should be fixed.

    I don't see anyone here talking anything about nerfing elite or making the game less challenging, it's about getting bugs fixed in NORMAL content, and some cases of storyline missions, as far as I see. You know, those things that new players will most likely be experiencing before anything else and then deciding whether to spend any money on game or not.
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    And, unless you show me a HSE parse or something, demonstrating your vast superiority over everyone else, and not dying to boot, I'm just going with you being full of it.
    This; I'm also very interested in seeing some HSE parses.

    Oh yep please no nerfs to difficulty. Lol nobody wants that. The random one shots of single critting torps is an annoyance but not a reason to cry or stop to play all together. As for HSE I think it’s just my #4 cause of death after regular torpedo spreads that always hit hard, flocki being a millisecond to late with subnuke and a confused hellspawny rapid firing my Bajoran fem toon to Andromeda. *shakes fist* :D
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,222 Community Moderator
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 11,250 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    echatty wrote: »
    Been awhile since I did Procyon 5 (I play normal all the time), But I don't remember ever getting obliterated. I remember losing some hull once in awhile, but had plenty of heals.

    Sounds like the bug they're mentioning in here.


    Haven't done the Battle of Proctologist V in a while either (way before VIL, at least). It's always been on the tough side, but doable. As for that green cone attack mentioned earlier ('Oh no, you did not shoot that green sh*t at me!'), you're supposed to make like a tree and leave when that thing is on you. So, that can be attributed to Pilot error.

    Queues are definitely weird, though, these days. I can fly into a CCA, on my Jem, and get pummeled to death before I even arrive at the Entity, or come in blazing, and win the day, with not a scratch on me. Since it's all so random/vague, the cynic in me says Cryptic will merrily leave it all broken, and never even spend an hour investigating. Yeah. Remember how they were going to fix the 'warp-out' bug in the TZ? Still waiting for that.

    Yeah, I remember that green goo. It reminded me of that cone attack of the Na'Kuhl. You definitely need to get out of that cone before it fires if it's targeting you.


    Actually, that green cone attack IS from the Na'Kuhl. :) They come to assist the enemy in the second (or third, I forgot) wave. And yes, you get ample warning. Like the Boss Ship in Tholian RA firing its white cone attack: it's not a good place to be inside its arc. :)
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 11,250 Arc User
    Hardest challenge i'm experiencing from any NPC is the Tzenkethi battleships and their torpedo attacks 60% plus kinetic res and brace for impact doesn't appear to do very much they have become dam nasty.
    I used to before VIL have no issues with a tact in Tzenkethi Front Advanced going solo to a station taking out the defenders and dropping a bomb. I have no chance of that now. In fact i'm struggling to take a battleship down and obtain a bomb without being wiped out by those torp spreads. Back then i would have about 25% kinetic res


    Soon as server is online again, I'll try the queue too. The Tzenkethi BZ, at least, appeared normal when I just conquered 1 point for the test (well, 'normal' as in still broken, but not extra so).
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 11,250 Arc User
    I prefer also the Incontrovertible Defenses set bonus, + the nukara set is not very easy to use (dbb or mines + an average console if you don't use epg). The lobi console is also interesting for tet build + the console sticky web

    I no longer use the Nukara set for Tetryon alone (the console is still useful in EPG builds, though). Instead, I use the full Lobi set + Temporal Disentanglement Suite & same-mission Omni-Directional Antichronoton Infused Tetryon Beam, for the second set-bonus, + Sticky Web.
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  • colonelmarikcolonelmarik Member Posts: 1,449 Arc User
    Well, as I mentioned, I have a limited amount of free time to play, so I have next to no EC, dilithium or any other such resource. I refuse to subsidize the reprehensible greed of the lockboxes, so that means none of those special gadgets or ships, and no lobi crystals or any other such nonsense.
    The only gear I really have any reasonable access to is gear gained as mission rewards. I can get the rep gear, but it requires years of playing ONLY that character, and is generally unreasonable to consider.
    Once, I was simply called Mojo. Now, I'm forced into a new name, but don't be fooled, I'm the original STO Mojo!

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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 5,999 Arc User
    I can get the rep gear, but it requires years of playing ONLY that character, and is generally unreasonable to consider.

    Ok, we tried to help, but now it's getting silly. Years for rep gear?

    I'm sorry man, but it sounds like you have already decided to shoot down any solution offered to you and at this point it looks like you don't actually want any help, you just shoot everything down. Honestly, the best way for you get through these missions is going to be to team with another player and have them carry you through it.

    Given the restrictions you have presented, that's your only option. Barring that, I am afraid your progression has stopped in STO and I for one cannot think of a scenario in which you will be able to change that. I could present a low cost budget build for your ship, but honestly.. I know you would just shoot it down so I am not going to. Best of luck to you going forward.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 11,250 Arc User
    The only gear I really have any reasonable access to is gear gained as mission rewards. I can get the rep gear, but it requires years of playing ONLY that character, and is generally unreasonable to consider.


    A single rep takes 40 days, max (less, even, as it's only a 20 hour cd, so, 33.33 days, when timed perfectly). That's a far-cry from 'years of playing.'

    So, yeah, I'm with Sea on this: if you don't consider *any* options, then the buck kinda stops there.
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  • colonelmarikcolonelmarik Member Posts: 1,449 Arc User
    I don't have a lot of time to play, and I often can't log in every day to manage all the reps. My Klingon was made the first day I played the game, yet is only rank 3 in most of his reps (Rank 5 in Omega).

    I never said I wouldn't consider options, it's that many options are simply not going to be available to me. There's plenty of gear gained from quests, and my question was which of those would provide the best overall defense, with offense being a secondary concern.
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  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 1,813 Arc User
    edited July 14
    I don't have a lot of time to play, and I often can't log in every day to manage all the reps. My Klingon was made the first day I played the game, yet is only rank 3 in most of his reps (Rank 5 in Omega).

    I never said I wouldn't consider options, it's that many options are simply not going to be available to me. There's plenty of gear gained from quests, and my question was which of those would provide the best overall defense, with offense being a secondary concern.

    Best overall defense from episode gear. Probably the Solanae set from Solanae arc. Could possibly go with the Kobali Set as well. Both should offer a bit more on the survival side than the other episodes set. I've been using it on my newest character, and haven't had many problems. Th House of Martok Console from Brushfire, is a good addition to this. As is the Trillium-D plating and a Neutronium Alloy plating.

    All of which will up your resistances and hull. So, you'll feel the pinch of the big hits less.

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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 5,999 Arc User
    edited July 14
    Happened again today in Undine Red Alert.. this is the only place I have seen this issue.. but man.

    I got hit with a mine from the Orb Weaver for 182k crit. After respawn, I cloak, fly back in and get hit with another mine for 201k.

    Yeah, that seems a bit much to me. There was nothing skill related that I could have done to counter this, there is no warning or chance to avoid.. just boom.. 200k damage. Seems a bit much.

    Every time I have seen this issue, it's been in the Undine Red Alert. Haven't seen it anywhere else. Even still, it's rare, this was the 2nd time I had had this issue and I run this alert multiple times per day.
    my question was which of those would provide the best overall defense, with offense being a secondary concern.

    As long as you're building in this way, you will continue to struggle. A battle of attrition is not going to yield the results you desire. The game is simply not set up to allow such a strategy to ever be consistently successful.
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  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 6,309 Arc User
    trennan wrote: »
    I don't have a lot of time to play, and I often can't log in every day to manage all the reps. My Klingon was made the first day I played the game, yet is only rank 3 in most of his reps (Rank 5 in Omega).

    I never said I wouldn't consider options, it's that many options are simply not going to be available to me. There's plenty of gear gained from quests, and my question was which of those would provide the best overall defense, with offense being a secondary concern.

    Best overall defense from episode gear. Probably the Solanae set from Solanae arc. Could possibly go with the Kobali Set as well. Both should offer a bit more on the survival side than the other episodes set. I've been using it on my newest character, and haven't had many problems. Th House of Martok Console from Brushfire, is a good addition to this. As is the Trillium-D plating and a Neutronium Alloy plating.

    All of which will up your resistances and hull. So, you'll feel the pinch of the big hits less.

    Edit: Forum Langolears, Begone!

    I like running solanae set...but that set is the perfect image of the best defense of a good offense as the 3 piece set makes your offense your healing. It's what I use on my leech boats. Along with the valdore console, if you get your DPS high enough, you don't need to load any hull or shield heals as you doing damage just heals everything up.
  • colonelmarikcolonelmarik Member Posts: 1,449 Arc User
    Just to update you, I've been using the Preeminent set from the Tzenkethi arc, and it's doing the trick pretty well. I've looked at some of the other sets, and the Nukara and Sol Defense sets also look pretty tanky.

    Still tinkering, though.
    Once, I was simply called Mojo. Now, I'm forced into a new name, but don't be fooled, I'm the original STO Mojo!

    This game needs detailed crafting, exploration and interaction systems.
  • mattjohnsonvamattjohnsonva Member Posts: 4,559 Arc User
    Happened again today in Undine Red Alert.. this is the only place I have seen this issue.. but man.

    I got hit with a mine from the Orb Weaver for 182k crit. After respawn, I cloak, fly back in and get hit with another mine for 201k.

    Yeah, that seems a bit much to me. There was nothing skill related that I could have done to counter this, there is no warning or chance to avoid.. just boom.. 200k damage. Seems a bit much.

    Every time I have seen this issue, it's been in the Undine Red Alert. Haven't seen it anywhere else. Even still, it's rare, this was the 2nd time I had had this issue and I run this alert multiple times per day.
    my question was which of those would provide the best overall defense, with offense being a secondary concern.

    As long as you're building in this way, you will continue to struggle. A battle of attrition is not going to yield the results you desire. The game is simply not set up to allow such a strategy to ever be consistently successful.

    Undine Red Alert? I was only aware of the Tzenkethi, Borg and Tholian Red Alerts, where is this Undine Red Alert?
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 3,251 Arc User
    Happened again today in Undine Red Alert.. this is the only place I have seen this issue.. but man.

    I got hit with a mine from the Orb Weaver for 182k crit. After respawn, I cloak, fly back in and get hit with another mine for 201k.

    Yeah, that seems a bit much to me. There was nothing skill related that I could have done to counter this, there is no warning or chance to avoid.. just boom.. 200k damage. Seems a bit much.

    Every time I have seen this issue, it's been in the Undine Red Alert. Haven't seen it anywhere else. Even still, it's rare, this was the 2nd time I had had this issue and I run this alert multiple times per day.
    my question was which of those would provide the best overall defense, with offense being a secondary concern.

    As long as you're building in this way, you will continue to struggle. A battle of attrition is not going to yield the results you desire. The game is simply not set up to allow such a strategy to ever be consistently successful.

    Undine Red Alert? I was only aware of the Tzenkethi, Borg and Tholian Red Alerts, where is this Undine Red Alert?

    I think he meant the Tholian RA, as he got hit with a mine from an Orb Weaver.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 5,999 Arc User
    I meant Tholian, my bad. I had been playing in the Undine BZ before posting and got my wires crossed. :smile:
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 3,251 Arc User
    I meant Tholian, my bad. I had been playing in the Undine BZ before posting and got my wires crossed. :smile:

    I do this all the time lol
    Now a LTS and loving it.

    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.

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