Golden Mk XV Torpedoes not gaining damage boost after upgrade

tunebreaker

Tested Gravimetric Photon Torpedo, Particle Emission Plasma Torpedo and Terran Task Force Photon torpedo in Sol System.
At least their tooltips show absolutely no change in damage after upgrading them from gold mk XIV to mk XV.

I had a friend check the numbers in upgrade window for same torps, and dmg stayed the same when comparing gold mk XIV to to-be-upgraded mk XV. However, upgrade window showed dmg increase when slotting a Very Rare or Ultra Rare mk XIV torpedo (didn't want to potentially waste upgrades to test if it actually gave an increase after upgrade), so it seems to be an Epic quality problem only.

darkknightucf

I will need to look into this as well. I saw a tooltip increase in Sol space, but the numbers don't look bigger (combatlog). Will test with alts that have the same torps.

darkknightucf

Can we have people use torps of various Mk and quality levels and post their combatlogs somewhere, please? (Google Drive, Box, etc)

harlequinpixie

Hard to say if they don't upgrade in damage. My enhanced biomolecular torpedo UR reads as 5337 damage. And the epic reads as 5657. This is on ground, so consoles and all that don't make a difference.

Other than that, I've not noticed, stuff still blows up, like they did before.

darkknightucf

Did some tests yesterday. I also included logs.
https://youtu.be/ojJS_5XcECM

If people can record their current Mk level and fire a single shot, HY, and TS at one target and upload the logs somewhere, that would be helpful.

Bonus points if you do it before and after upgrading.

tunebreaker

Ok, we tested Gravimetric torpedo, cause that's the only one we could find to compare.
I used mk XV epic (golden) Grav torp, my friend @choromyslny used mk XV Ultra Rare torpedo. Neither of us had any gear besides the torpedo itself or traits equipped to make the test as compareable as possible.

Turns out that the tooltips didn't lie and epic actually does less damage.
Link to the combatlog



Yet another thing we found (although I presume @darkknightucf has already documented it) that Grav HY critical hits seem to do equal damage to regular hits - thus de facto not critting at all.

darkknightucf

@tunebreaker That's.... wow.... Thanks for providing us with this. The logs will tell us a lot more, but the tooltip comparison alone is enough for concern.

darkknightucf

Tankia and I may have stumbled upon the possible cause, but need our math checked. Hypothesis: The Epic mod is SUBTRACTING from the damage of the torpedo. We'll have to get this verified.

pottsey5g

darkknightucf wrote: »

Tankia and I may have stumbled upon the possible cause, but need our math checked. Hypothesis: The Epic mod is SUBTRACTING from the damage of the torpedo. We'll have to get this verified.

That would explain the bug when we had UR mistaken downgraded to white and the damage went up. That's now fixed and everything is back to UR with less damage.

salvation4

I noticed a drop post upgrade yesterday after I went on an upgrade spree..I should have saved the screen before to have a look at the stats..But even my arrays arent all that great currently at MKXV UR..Torps for sure are in the same boat..My Quantum phase is not stripping much as it was at MKXIII R, feel its dropped after the upgrade to MKXV UR.

darkspeaker

Was gonna post this, glad to see it already here.

salvation4

Just an update..The energy weapons seems to be effected too..On normal ques the swarms are taking longer to knock out as compared to pre upgrade..Whats going on?!

darkknightucf

We have multiple logs now from various sources. We have video's/screenshots of how this is affecting torps. Now, it appears that more than one weapon class is affected. If there's any logs/data on it, then by all means, please post.