Make Crossfield UR prize in next infinity lockbox!

luckyyahoo

Yes! This!

So far the only two URs are Vonph and Acheros. Market is saturated! No more value!

Exchange:
Infinity UR T6: 60 million!
Infinity Normal T6: 250 million!

Correction needed!

Plus Discovery is turning up to be great! Lots of people want! Possible material to carry the game another 5 years! Make crossfield accessible!

Now, the discovery haters may now begin their digital mental breakdown. Thank you for your attention!

turbomagnus

The only problem I can see is that you may have proposed this a little early. There's always a one lockbox delay before they add to Infinity, so Tzenkathi won't be added until Discovery is discontinued and Discovery won't make it in until the one after it (Gamma? Hur'q? whatever they'll call it) is discontinued. That means it's almost six months (roughly) before the Crossfield is even eligible to be an Infinity prize. When the time comes, however, I think they probably will make the T6 Discovery ship (Crossfield/Sarcophagus) pack an UR prize.

fleetcaptain5

To be fair, it seems that the Ultra rare ships were just a one-off (ok two-off) thing that has been abandoned.

Like the Tal Shiar warp cores, or the Andorian weapons, it's a typical example of something new being introduced and then for some reason it is never continued / integrated with other systems.

orangenee

I may be being somewhat cynical but this reads like "I can't make unholy amounts of EC off of these two ships, so Cryptic please add more so I can make unholy amounts of EC for less personal expenditure."

Given the amount of doggy doo doo there is for 250 million plus versus two solid ships (though one does make an annoying noise), I think there's more value in those two than there is in the multi-millionaires club. Sona Collecter is a 1 billion pile of garbage for example.

It's also nice Joe Newbie can get a cheaper option.

Sorry if you aren't in the category mentioned above but I'd say it applies to more than a few players.

fleetcaptain5

orangenee#2931 wrote: »

I may be being somewhat cynical but this reads like "I can't make unholy amounts of EC off of these two ships, so Cryptic please add more so I can make unholy amounts of EC for less personal expenditure."

Given the amount of doggy doo doo there is for 250 million plus versus two solid ships (though one does make an annoying noise), I think there's more value in those two than there is in the multi-millionaires club. Sona Collecter is a 1 billion pile of garbage for example.

It's also nice Joe Newbie can get a cheaper option.

Sorry if you aren't in the category mentioned above but I'd say it applies to more than a few players.

Well I think it's a bit strange, even unfair that these ships which are much harder to get, are worth less. Why call them ultra rare ships when they don't seem to be that rare?

fleetcaptain5

luckyyahoo wrote: »

fleetcaptain5#1134 wrote: »

To be fair, it seems that the Ultra rare ships were just a one-off (ok two-off) thing that has been abandoned.

Like the Tal Shiar warp cores, or the Andorian weapons, it's a typical example of something new being introduced and then for some reason it is never continued / integrated with other systems.

But we keep getting those prizes! If they're discontinued, they should be merged with other T6

Yes I agree. The whole distinction never made sense to me.

Before the Infinity box was launched, the Vonph and Acheros were the ultra rare prizes from their respective lock boxes. If they're not going to add multiple ships to newer lock boxes, then they might as well reverse things and make the Vonph and Acheros 'normal' rare ones.

It makes little sense to keep them 'ultra rare' when their respective lock boxes (in which one ship was more rare than the other) are never going to drop again and none of the newer lock boxes have two T6 ships in them.

xyquarze

"60 million" is not a saturated market. People discarding the ships because they can't get rid of them otherwise would be ...

But I get your point. Though to be fair, the only problem is the description as "Ultra Rare", but these monikers are loosely correlated to actuall supply at best (the "Very Rare" phoenix box reward is quite common actually).

darkbladejk

There has been a clear cycle to the infinity lockboxes for awhile now. Barring an extreme change to that cycle you're looking at about 6 months, technically 5 now since we're in Feb, but still a good while before it hits the infinity box. As for the Vonph and Acheros, they were an ultra rare ship that could drop from their respective boxes. You had the chance to drop either the traditional prize like the Quas or so on, or you could drop a Vonph/Acheros. From the way I understood it, you could potentially drop a Vonph and a Quas from the same box if you were lucky enough to do so. Since the Vonph and Acheros were on their own separate prize drop they were given their own box in the infinity boxes from my understanding of things. Far as to why they didn't keep doing a 2nd ship in the boxes like that is for them to answer but it makes sense as to why the boxes were done the way they were in the infinity box. Personally I think the Crossfield is ugly as sin but to each their own as far as ship preference.

salazarraze

The Crossfield is not a UR prize. Therefore it will not go in the UR pack in the infinity lock box.

warpangel

They are not going to put a ship in the UR box just because you want it for cheaper.

fleetcaptain5

darkbladejk wrote: »

There has been a clear cycle to the infinity lockboxes for awhile now. Barring an extreme change to that cycle you're looking at about 6 months, technically 5 now since we're in Feb, but still a good while before it hits the infinity box. As for the Vonph and Acheros, they were an ultra rare ship that could drop from their respective boxes. You had the chance to drop either the traditional prize like the Quas or so on, or you could drop a Vonph/Acheros.

Indeed.

With those boxes now retired though, and everything thrown together in the infinity boxes, I don't think it makes sense to keep the distinction between very rare and ultra rare.

kodachikuno

luckyyahoo wrote: »

Yes! This!
Exchange:
Infinity UR T6: 60 million!
Infinity Normal T6: 250 million!

Correction needed!

oh noes there are 2 whole ships with semi-rational prices on the EX!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

salazarraze

azrael605 wrote: »

Better idea, discontinue the UR box and put the ships in with the other T6 ships.

No, the ships should still be harder to get from an odds perspective. Maybe a third option should be added to the UR pack. That is say, drop a VR pack that consumes your UR pack.

In a way, it's sort of what the OP wants but instead of devaluing the Crossfield to essentially nothing, it boosts the value of Vonphs and Acheros to be very valuable again. All other T6 ships will take a tiny hit in their value from the ever so slightly increased supply coming from UR packs.

warpangel

salazarraze wrote: »

azrael605 wrote: »

Better idea, discontinue the UR box and put the ships in with the other T6 ships.

No, the ships should still be harder to get from an odds perspective.

Why?

gjohnny1990

So the Acheros and Vonph drop in their own box? That explains why they are so unusually cheap compared to all the other T6's, as a returning player it's been bugging me how they seem to be the only 2 T6 ships that are way cheaper than the rest - I thought they were broken or just plain trash so nobody wanted them or something.

I always wanted a Vonph since release but could never afford the insane 1b+ price tag they used to go for, now I own it and the Acheros thanks to the tanked prices.

baddmoonrizin