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grendelthewise
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I was reading a thread before and thought if it is a universal console, than it should be able to be slotted any ship. Certain ones shouldn't be limited to just certain ships.
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It is easier to say and type "Universal Console" rather than "Console For Engineering, Science, or Tactical Slot".
Don't like it? Complain to Cryptic. It will fall on deaf ears.
I usually go that way:
-If the console is from a ship that is part of a T5 and/or T6 family (like Elachi, Voth, Son'a, multi-faction bundles, etc.), it's highly likely it'll be available to this family only (a few of the exceptions being the Kelvin Timeline and 23rd Dreadnought (plus the NX refit) ships, with their console able to be slotted on any ship).
-If the console is from a T1 to T4 ship, a lockbox/lobi reward (so not part of a ship), or reputation, then it usually goes with every other ship.
I can think about a lot of complaint I can make in real life such as...
Why can't I buy a Toyota Camry at a Honda dealership?
> Why would I by a brand new, never previously owned Toyota Camry from a used car lot? I just want to buy it at a Honda dealership.
I got you to monologue at least
"Let them eat static!"
> Because it would be kind of difficult to use saucer separation on an APU cruiser now wouldn't it? lol
I did say "certain"
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Man I could see that right now:
Main hull detaches from nacelles, with the nacelles flying around by themselves spouting pulse phasers while the main hull zips around firing quantums and phaser beams.
Oh dear, that almost sounds awesome lol
"Let them eat static!"
Yes, there are some like Saucer Separation or MVAM that wouldn't fit on most ships (unless Cryptic designed visuals to each ship, which wouldn't be efficient spending on developer manpower), but most universal consoles that come with ships shouldn't have those problems.
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I just don't see the point of some of these being restricted. Point Defense is freely usable, but Torpedo Point Defense and Destabilized Tachyon Emitters isn't. That just doesn't make any sense to me.
What I dislike more, though, is the restriction on hangar pets. Considering how there's no Universal Frigate pet for the Federation, it would be cool to grab up a Callisto or even some Stalkers for some kind of variety in choices.
Not only that but it also serves as incentive to buy certain ships you otherwise wouldn't.
"Ohhhhh lookit this shiny console.... Darn it's ship locked...." *Opens wallet-buys ship*
No, sorry, but that makes no sense. Cuz you'd have to buy said ship to begin with, even if its consoles were unlocked.
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Edit; I know what you're saying though as you'd have to buy the ship regardless if you really wanted the console.
So it may not seem to make much sense.
But the locked consoles add a level of unique gameplay opportunities based on ships/ship families. Maybe that's the intention of the devs.
Sort of like how the Specs add a certain flavor to their ship classes.
You can't do pilot maneuvers in an intel ship. Like you can't do Kinetic Feedback without a Vesta and console.
Does it make a whole lot of sense ? Not so much. But it does add some distinction between ships and their capabilities. Maybe that's all they were hoping for by locking consoles to their parent ships. More people flying different ships.
Because lets face it, If we could use anything on any ship... It might not hurt overall sales... But then there would be a handful of "Alpha Ships" that would be "Must Haves" (depending on your play style) because they have the best platform for Boff stations/ console stations / Weapons layout.. And you'd see those same handful of ships everywhere you went.
Badly?
Sorry, I still don't get it.
Yeah I edited my post
I didn't explain that very well, and the original comment I left does indeed make a case for unlocking all ship consoles.
But I added a bit more to clarify where I was coming from.
Ehhh its just me speculating from a Devs POV why they might lock consoles to a ship. Still doesn't make much sense on the players end I guess.
But my theory was maybe they want to see more variety out there in ships being used. And if any console could be placed on any ship, there might be only a handful of "Alpha/Meta ships" being flown by the majority of the player base...
Just trying to understand their thinking on the matter.
Got any theories Dev side why they'd do such a thing ?
Perhaps, but the issue also is that a lot of these unique consoles are just poorly suited to their host ships. They don'rt really perform as well as they should and so the VAST majority of player just never use them. If people are buying a ship i very much doubt it they do so to make use of a console that is simply wasting space on a build.
BUT....a lot of these consoles could be made to work really quite well if they could be moved to other ships. Like the Particle Synthesizer mentioned by @tunebreaker , it's pretty rubbish on the Guardian. But slot that on a Vesta or any other sci ship and wow, it might actually be worth a slot.
Consoles locked to ships does nothing to encourage sales of ships (people will fly them without the consoles), and it does nothing for build diversity or experimentation (because the consoles in their home environment perform poorly).
That all makes them look like a massive waste of dev time and effort to make items nobody uses or even considers.
To give ships more personality/distinction?
That said, I would be curious to see how long the Mat'ha Heavy Disruptor Spinal Cannons would stay exclusive to the KDF if they were to de-couple T5/T6 consoles from their ship chassis.
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