Rebel Insurgence Idea, Federation Civil War/Gorn Seperatists and Romulan Star Empire Resurgence.

thevampinator

I saw someone post this elsewhere but it would be interesting if the Federation starts to break apart and infighting happens. Causing full out chaos Do to all the wars and all the resources spent on wars and some races that are members are sick and tired of it wanting out. Also could have a resurgence of anti alien groups and groups sick of the federation all together joining forces. Forcing the Alliance to confront all this. Also this group of coming together joining into a group like the Maquis. Also this would not be only happening to the federation but at the same time for the romulan republic and Klingon Empire. The Resurgence of Romulan Star Empire Loyalists wanting to restore the Romulan Empire and the Gorn Separatists wanting to be free of the Klingon Empire.
I think it would be a good idea?
What do you think?

kodachikuno

no because cryptic would botch the handling of this and of course we'd have no choice but to side with the "alliance" and restore "order"

spacehermit

They could call it "Star Wars"....

thay8472

Yes Because this would shake up the Status Quo, plus seeing groups of sepertists and rebel based Organizations like the Maquis Would make for an intersting story arc.

yeah... Alliance Civil War!

theraven2378

Yes Because this would shake up the Status Quo, plus seeing groups of sepertists and rebel based Organizations like the Maquis Would make for an intersting story arc.

There is only war

risian4

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

somtaawkhar wrote: »

No, all of this is directly counter to the entire premise of star Trek, and several of these groups, such as RSE loyalists, have been so beaten by the player character that a reassurance wouldn't make sense.

What he said.

I also think that, while a focus on the Federation for example could be good, I'd like to see something else than yet another conflict. Rebuilding colony worlds or developing new ones sounds great. But if there has to be another conflict, I'd rather have it take us out to somewhere else, somewhere unknown.

Also, OP, you may want to check the answer options you've given.

jorantomalak

Yes Because this would shake up the Status Quo, plus seeing groups of sepertists and rebel based Organizations like the Maquis Would make for an intersting story arc.

Yes a federation civil war would be interesting, and actually make your captain choose a side not have it chosen for them ,atleast for the arc at the end of the arc the war ends and the federation still stands.

saurializard

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

reyan01 wrote: »

It's a good idea IF done right. It isn't really something Trek has explored at any great length. I mean, yeah we had the Maquis but there were not THAT many episodes centred on them.

I disagree, because I remember something involving Cardassian Rebels turning the tide of the Dominion War.
I remember something involving a colony of human supremacists threatening to blow up a Earth city if aliens didn't leave the Solar system in ENT, as well as a whole arc involving a Vulcan sect and a conspiracy between Vulcan traitors and Romulans, and the Klingon civil war between Duras and Gowron.
There was also the Equinox incident, the whole plots of The Undiscovered Country, Insurrection, Nemesis, Into Darkness and Beyond, the coup d'état attempted by Leyton, the Q Civil War, the civil war that devastated Cheron in "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", the Borg Civil War that gave the birth of the Cooperative.
And let's not forget the Eugenics Wars, the post-WWIII chaos, the Andorian-Vulcan conflict, and especially not the whole thing that could be considered a status quo in the Mirror Universe.

angrytarg

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

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baddmoonrizin

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

No. The Federation doesn't really go to war unless it has to. The Federation-Klingon War only happened because diplomacy failed and Undine influence. Neither side really wanted to fight the other. The Klingons were trying to stop an Undine infiltration of the Alpha Quadrant, and the Undine were manipulating both sides into war against one another.

Common enemies and allies finally ended the fighting. First through efforts to stop the Borg, then helping the Romulan Republic. Finally the Klingons were vindicated when the Undine invaded and together the powers drove them off. Peace was finally firmly established just in time to deal with the Iconian invasion. Again, a war brought on the Alpha Quadrant, not one they sought out, but one that was won, ultimately by helping the Iconians, not through force.

Everyone in the Romulan Republic is there because they felt oppressed by the old regime. It makes no sense that there would be separatists that would want to return to the Romulan Empire. The RSE still exists, of a sort, and anyone who wanted surely could return. I'm certain D'Tan wouldn't stop them.

Member worlds of the Federation wouldn't just want to up and leave because of these events. In fact, these events prove why being part of the Federation, and now the Alliance, is good for them. Together they are able to support and defend one another when major threats or problems arise.

At this time, any xenophobic groups that might spring up shouldn't get much traction. There's too much spirit of cooperation going on right now. The ONLY separatist leaning that's been hinted at are possibly the Gorn, but even that isn't a given.

tribbulater

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

No, because you are part of the rebel alliance and a traitor!

alcyoneserene

Yes Because this would shake up the Status Quo, plus seeing groups of sepertists and rebel based Organizations like the Maquis Would make for an intersting story arc.

Yes, so long as we can side with the rebelling sides. I'd take it further and break apart the alliance so that RSE can also attack feds and KDF if only to correct the republican damage done to the empire.

centurian821

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

Overall, I am against this idea. But I would certainly like some Gorn centric story arc involving some independence or something along those lines.

markhawkman

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

I can only advocate this if it means the Orions can show the Klingons who is the brains behind the Empire.

where2r1

Yes Because this would shake up the Status Quo, plus seeing groups of sepertists and rebel based Organizations like the Maquis Would make for an intersting story arc.

If the Feds don't want it....bring that over to the KDF side of the story. This alliance with everybody is boring me to tears.

artan42

Yes Because this would shake up the Status Quo, plus seeing groups of sepertists and rebel based Organizations like the Maquis Would make for an intersting story arc.

Yes. We need more war.

When we've run out of enemies to fight, turn upon ourselves.

saurializard

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

patrickngo wrote: »

Provide: Objective Evidence as you claim. I can point to Path to 2409, and every storyline mission we've had since release for mine, Som.

Not once in any mission does your Federation captain say, "Wait, this is wrong" except in the Kobali mission, and here it gets a one-line 'solution' at the end of the Harry Kim/Harry Kim episode.

at NO time do you buck command, refuse a bad order, or otherwise act any way except as a good, obedient soldier. You're never even given the opportunity. Further to that, you never have to bust anyone else for breaking orders either. At least with the Klingon string, you see Klingons acting against their government-this never happens with Starfleet.

there is NO internal conflict to justify what the OP is proposing, I present that Objectively there's no potential FOR internal conflict. To get one, requires massive storyline gymnastics that probably wouldn't pass either the "Kid/family friendly" or "CBS Approval" tests.

Particularly in regards to the UFP. both the Romulan and KDF storylines actually have some room for this to develop naturally-the Klingons just lost most of their ruling council, the Romulans are still in a chaotic transition phase and are held together mostly by a single charismatic leader, but with the split loyalties involved, they have the Possibility of internal conflict.

this isn't the case with the Federation. There's no 'hook' to hang such a story on, it would stick out as both anachronistic and ill-fitting to try and shoehorn one in.

do you understand me now? Do I need to draw you a diagram? The potential for a Maquis or Leyton situation simply doesn't currently exist in the Federation storyline.

There are still a few parts where your captain can disobey orders or make their concerns clear.

Your character can object to the opening of the gateway in a Step between Stars, also, you can choose to discard Tuvok's suggestions for support and you can say you won't put your ship at risk by flying it so close to the star.

Your character also isn't thrilled at the idea of using time itself against the Iconians.

Your character can also refuse to arrest Obisek.

Your character also go into missions that are provided by Section 31 several times.

Your character can also choose to TRIBBLE the Hazari contract to alert the Benthans about their spy, or the opposite.

That said, I still agree, it's not likely to have inner conflicts inside the federation outside of some bureaucrats in the story blogs.

smokebailey

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

Might as well drop your pants and go all over happened up till now, then.

markhawkman

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

patrickngo wrote: »

both the Romulan and KDF storylines actually have some room for this to develop naturally-the Klingons just lost most of their ruling council,

Yes, I for one welcome our new Orion overlords.

thay8472

Yes Because this would shake up the Status Quo, plus seeing groups of sepertists and rebel based Organizations like the Maquis Would make for an intersting story arc.

To hell with all this peace and love for aliens. The Tzenkathi are wiping out species as they see fit ... Let's go exterminate them!

evilmark444

No I don't want Infighting in the federation.

I wouldn't mind an arc or just a single episode where we visit an alternate universe where all the major factions are locked in their own civil wars. If they did such an arc, I'd like to see the alternate Feds using the old Perpetual ship designs, followed by a Perpetual lockbox.

As for the STO universe experiencing civil war? No.