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People making fleets for personal use should not be allowed .

kittieangel3kittieangel3 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
in Fleet System and Holdings
In my opinion , I think people who make fleets for their " personal use for bank " should not even be allowed at all in the game . They are bring selfish and taking the short cut on not buying the account bank slots in the Zen store ( which is not that much at all ) .

There should be a rule in the Terms about making fleets for personal use and prohibit that .

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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    What brought you to this conclusion?
    Armada: Multiplying fleet projects in need of dilithium by 13."
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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         Member Posts: 4,540 Arc User
    Indeed. I am as curious as cidjack about this. How does someone else spending gobs of their own money affect you? Because for them to create a Fleet and sustain it, they are going to have to spend RL currency.

    tl:dr version for the attention span - impaired: Why you mad, bro?
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  • garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
    and what would your suggestion be to those that bought the max amount of bank ,inv. and acc. bank slots and still need space ?!
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    OP,

    I am still interested in hearing the rest of the story behind this thread.
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  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    Some people may create a fleet if they can get 4 other players to be on a team with them who are not in a fleet at the time when they go to create one... but even if the 4 other players then leave the new fleet the person who remains might gain a much larger bank for personal use but they won't be able to acquire any fleet consoles, weapons or gear if they don't grow the fleet with the help & support of others...

    So to me it would seem the downside is greater than the upside for creating a fleet just to gain bank slots...
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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    strathkin wrote: »
    Some people may create a fleet if they can get 4 other players to be on a team with them who are not in a fleet at the time when they go to create one... but even if the 4 other players then leave the new fleet the person who remains might gain a much larger bank for personal use but they won't be able to acquire any fleet consoles, weapons or gear if they don't grow the fleet with the help & support of others...

    So to me it would seem the downside is greater than the upside for creating a fleet just to gain bank slots...

    Actually early on we had overflow issues in our Fleet banks after maxing them out. so I created (with some of my allies from the main fleet) as an auxiliary fleet to handle any overflow including alts that people might want to rotate in an out of the main. It currently has one member to be book keeper, and is mostly just a sink for donations that won't fit into the main fleets project at the time. Thank the devs for the Armada system! :)

    Even still it looks like, and is in existent fact, a solo fleet at this time. So the OP would like to see a mechanic imposed on those of us who wanted the auxiliary in the first place, that would take our support Fleet away, just because it has a single toon?

    This is a case where I feel justified in saying to the OP, "mind your own business."

    Unless solo fleets are somehow ruining the game for someone on more than an aesthetic level this complaint is ... well, pointless.

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  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    Hey I never said anything against anyone who wants to create a fleet...

    I just said if your doing it solely to earn extra bank slots just for yourself you're likely to loose out more than gain not that I care if people choose to do that...
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    I created my 'Personal Fleet' (with the help of four friends) the first week Fleets were made available about six years ago, with all nine of my current Fed. toons as active members.

    And this was long before any of the current Fleet functions were even thought of or added to the game.

    I've also bought the Maximum number of Bank/Inventory slots for all of my toons except my current AoY one.
    (including my Klingon toon who isn't even in a Fleet)

    SO..., your reasoning for denying anybody a Fleet is nonsense, since you don't know the circumstances behind each and every STO player's thoughts or actions on this matter.

    Why don't you get off that "High Horse" you rode in on..., and shove it where all the stars in the game, don't shine.

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  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    Dave calm down, I think other than a few people... most have no objection to people being in their own fleet, and if you can at least get in an armada. Then you can still find reasonable opportunity to earn fleet mark's, or get invited to others fleet holdings to buy things. :)
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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    strathkin wrote: »
    Hey I never said anything against anyone who wants to create a fleet...

    I just said if your doing it solely to earn extra bank slots just for yourself you're likely to loose out more than gain not that I care if people choose to do that...

    OH, yeah, sorry, I could have done that post better. :)

    I meant that you are right basically, It is a lot of extra trouble for just a vanity item, It should be useful to justify the effort to even get five people together.

    We are cool my friend! :)

    Qapla'!
  • deathbykarmadeathbykarma Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    I have 2 personal fleets for bank space.
  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    I think some people should just mind their own business and keep thier nose out of things that have absolutely NO effect on them personally.
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  • alien2#4861 alien2
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    Hmmm... very curious, not sure how this has a negative impact in any way... care to elaborate a touch?
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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    I will allow just one possible negative impact, and only just the one.

    The more people in vanity Fleets, the fewer who are available to join a larger fleet and work together.

    I don't care myself. IMHO the solo fleets are still good for Armadas to donate to, help players learn about Fleet mechanics where it only harms themselves if they make a big mistake, and then if they want to be more active, they may start recruiting for themselves.

    Anyway, yeah, this isn't really even a topic imho and it should just fade away gently ....... ;)

    Qapla'!
  • captainwellscaptainwells Member Posts: 718 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    I can only imagine the sheer amount of hard work soloing a fleet might be; sheesh. But then who cares if that is what someone chooses to do? Fleets in this game have proven to be a mixed blessing for me. As a console player I've yet to be a part of one that has unlocked the one function that I desire most of all, the tailor, for roleplaying purposes if nothing else once certain costume options become available.

    I've had to leave fleets where no matter how much you contributed the rules kept changing and it became clear that the leaders were favoring themselves and their closest buddies to the exclusion of everyone else. I have a fleet admiral who a couple of months in is still the bottom grunt level in one fleet despite active daily contributions that I've lost count of? I've left a couple that just seemed to be about spinning the wheel too.

    The admiralty system, duty officer hauls, dilithium and energy credits I don't mind poneying up to fleet holdings daily. I also don't mind contributing stuff to the fleet bank, but thus far doing so seems utterly pointless to me.

    On a different note, this weekend I was running my latest character [a Romulan] and getting slammed by the Elachi content something fierce. No matter how many pleas in chat on local or zone for aid, and also emails to a half dozen different fleets requesting membership went unheeded. I felt like I must have been the only one in that whole universe for the better part of 48 hours? I got through and completed Vengeance, but damn - just saying.
  • admiralnatadmiralnat Member Posts: 22,432 Arc User
    Ok, let's assume we have things the OP's way; you know how easy it would be to work around any system preventing people from having solo fleets? Sure, you can start killing off the other really small fleets too, but in the end, you're only going to make people really mad, and there's just no sense behind that, at least as far as I'm aware.

    Also, if all you other guys actually need to have all the buyable slots plus a fleet bank to yourself, you must have a lot of stuff. What gives?​​
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  • someperson22someperson22 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    kittieangel3 wrote: »
    In my opinion , I think people who make fleets for their " personal use for bank " should not even be allowed at all in the game . They are bring selfish and taking the short cut on not buying the account bank slots in the Zen store ( which is not that much at all ) .

    There should be a rule in the Terms about making fleets for personal use and prohibit that .

    Now you say that that's a pretty good idea I think I'm going to do that until I get more members
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