There is a variant of the Starfleet Odyssey uniform for Intel officers, as worn by Cdr Burgess and Lt Cdr Van Zyl. I use this for my Intel Bridge Officers. I wonder could we not have something to identify Pilot and Command officers too? Perhaps a badge similar to the pilot's "wings" used in the Royal Navy for pilots would be appropriate for that specialisation. A badge and medal "pack" might make a nice c-store uniform item. Of course, giving it away free would be even better!
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If we go by the traditional department titles Command is a department, depicted by red uniforms from TNG on. Pilots may technically fall under the Command department as most of the time we see a Command colored uniform in the Helm seat.
Notable Helmsmen wearing Command colors:
"How can Worf and LaForge be on this list?" you ask? Season 1 of TNG had both of them in red uniforms and having madded the Helm station on the Enterprise-D. I believe it was from Season 2 on that they switched to the Ops Gold. Then Worf went back to Command Red in DS9.
Chekov, Sulu, Wesley Crusher, Nog.....
Edit: Removed Kim, had brain TRIBBLE, he wore Ops uniform.
Whoever is in charge at Paramont I hope for the upcoming CBS streaming series they put some serious thought into not just the uniform, but what these divisions really mean. I've seen Trek fan friends get into serious arguments about what constitutes tactical vs security, operations vs engineering, and what exactly is a science officer (is it limited to just people with an -ologist in their job title, or is it people who use/service scientific equipment too? and, when do those people servicing the equipment stop being in sciences, and start being in Operations or Engineering?). It's all very confusing.
I'm sure there's lots of passionate opinions among the STO player-base too, but it would be nice to have some thoughtful consensus from the IP license-holders to clear up some debates, and pave the way for more in-depth, clear, storytelling.
Whatever the case, fingers-crossed for some awesome looking uniforms for the upcoming TV show!
EDIT: D'oh! Forgot to add, I like OP's idea of badges for sub-divisions.
White= Pilot
Orange = Command (or just stick with red and ignore the tactical overlap)
Green = Temporal
Purple = whatever comes after Temporal
Pilot is probably better as light blue, but yea, that's what I have done. I leave the piping the way it is, and change the stripe.
I agree about light blue being better for pilot, but it can easily be confused with science, depending on the shade of blue you use on your science officers.
"pilot" isn't really a career that would be "helmsman" which normally would end up using the red color.
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The whole point of this thread is to assign unique uniforms to Specialization trained BOffs, and Pilot is a Specialization ...
I myself stick to just red/gold/blue, but I can see why some would want to assign colors to specializations, so what I posted was how I thought it could work out. As the OP already pointed out, there are some NPCs likely meant to be Intel spec that have black instead of one of the three usual colors. The Pilot spec icon is blue, but that's taken, so I offered white as an alternative.
I have to agree. There are some words being censored that don't really make sense.
I actually would use Green as command considering Kirk wore that green wrap around uniform a few times and it was for command officers only. Orange go Temporal, Pilot I'd go more Tan.
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Was trying to match them up to the spec icon colors, so I put command as orange, and the pic in the temporal pack makes temporal look to be green potentially (at least it looks like the area around the badge looks green), so I went with green there.
Green has been used for Starfleet marines.
Its actually kinda badass.
(I have white for command)
In STO, or somewhere else? I don't seem to remember marines ever being mentioned in STO myself, just MACOs (though I DO have a pseudo dress blue uniform created).
Keep in mind that as of the STO timeframe, division colors have changed a little (Red = Tactical instead of Command, etc), so if its not already shown in STO on an NPC, its available.
That would seem to fit more I agree, though it seems Cryptic favors black for Intel.
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There's no such thing. Starfleet Security is the department that does all the shooting. So, depending on the era, they will be outfitted in red or yellow.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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Only kinda. There was a person who held a Marine rank in Starfleet, Colonel West.
Granted, that's the only one in the entirety of the show's history.
He he addressed as such onscreen, because if not, those are Admiral stripes he's wearing.
If he is addressed as such in the film I'm guessing it's his first name. Either that or he's as much a colonel as O'Brien is a lieutenant.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Yeah, a shot of that screen from the film is going to be needed. If we took everything from illegible background events as having happened we'd have giant ducks in the Ent D, Doctor Who actors as family relatives, Steamrunners in the 22nd century, and a Federation Dauntless.
If that is indeed legible I may reconsider but until then it's a background easter egg to the Strategy game.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Until we get some high rez images of the briefing materials, we're gonna have to go with what's been said about it. My guess is that the reference to the Marines might be on pg 2 or 3 of the briefing.
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