Perhaps trying to circumvent a filter in the forum for profanity is not a smart idea...
Or, perhaps, blocking out certain words because some easily-offended individuals find them objectionable despite there being no rational reason for this is not a smart idea. Perhaps bowdlerizing written expression because distant tradition has arbitrarily labeled some words and concepts as verboten is a stunningly stupid idea. What is the purpose? And what is the justification? I know you have the power to set whatever standards you like, but is that right or necessary? What good is accomplished by restricting free speech?
I find it puzzling that whenever there is an objection to anything or any form of controversy over content, preference is given to those seeking repression and action is taken on the side of restriction, never freedom. How is it that if I object to limitations and I am offended by the concept of being forced to conform to other people's beliefs about propriety and morality I get no traction, but the moment anyone objects to something they are given deference and their whims are catered to? There is no balance. There is no respect for any but the most narrow and strict definition of what is right and proper.
I can see that maybe an argument could be made for material intended for the smallest of children, that they not be immersed in language and discussions that are of a more crude and adult nature than they might be prepared to handle, but this is not a children's property. It deals with heavy, intellectual and controversial topics best approached by the highly mature, intelligent, and educated. Bleaching it to a standard better fit for a kindergarten classroom is suspect at best. I object wholeheartedly and vehemently to such repressive censorship of speech.
Of course, I have no power to make change. But I can state my position for the record and invite others to think on the subject. Consider my complaint filed.
The D in IDIC doesn't stand for discrimination, and neither does this poster.
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i cant see this topic getting anywhere fast.
on a side note, it is good to see @askray back on the forum. i have not seen him around for some time.
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Posting about how mods mod is bad m'kay
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While some words do seem like odd choices for the censor, most of them make sense. Also nice to see askray back as well. We still got a warm ban waiting for ya in the ban thread askray!
Wipe your noses already.
Dude... askray is a cool person. Doesn't just quote rules and leaves it at that.
You must be american.
Freedom of Thought and Expression only applies in the political and social context, not on "privately owned" forums.
Here you have "no rights". Posting here is a privilige that can be revoked at any time.
You're right. I really wish you done this through the proper channels and not this public outburst like a child but you're right. You have all rights to make you and your displeasure known.
Also, 99% sure there is a big ugly mess of legal jargon that you clicked "agree" on that pretty much gave them right to control their forums the way they see fit but hey, I did not read and I'm willing to wager 2 EC you did not either.
How many people actually take the time to read EULA and ToS?
Do I get a gold star?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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I did happen to read some EULA's and ToS'es out of boredom [for example when huge amount of patching time was required :P]
as for thread itself it sound to me like an emotional outburst cause someone dared to tell OP that he violated forum rules.
PS. Forum Rules where set before all of people crying how stuff is offensive and represing and stuff and I'd assume it was based on common decendency of how a civilised person should and should not express its emotions and feelings... as for "weird" choices I'm quite sure that there is a logical reason for filterign them out - as for example being real nasty profanities in languages or countries you have no idea about, and where STO is still a game
In the post you are whining about from the locked thread where you tried to bypass the profanity filter.
I however am not questioning moderation, just some of words that arent ok next to others that are. Granted profanity is largely subjective though.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
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As much as I'll enjoy this thread I think you'd prefer it didn't go that far.
not always it has been observed in the past, for example when the servers are down, she usually posts. i guess it depends on how urgent her need is on the forum.
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Its also the weekend.
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REALLY, WOW. COME ON! IT'S CURRENT YEAR!
You pretty much got baited so hard you're about to take a solid L. That's not even the worst part. You let Dental give you this loss. Shameful, the KDF will be making jokes about your honor for a while now.