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Proposal: Public Starbase, Embassy, Mine and Spire projects
sirsitsalot
Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
In the interest of pursuing the sort of on-going content that gets everyone potentially involved regardless of fleet status, I propose that a public version of each of the fleet holding projects be implemented.
The costs for each of these would be based on player metrics. So the requirements may fluctuate from assignment to assignment. Lowest requirement would assume half of the active player population participating in the system.
What this would mean is that we could all contribute to the progress of the construction of new public zones. As that progress is made we would ALL see those zones evolve and grow around us.
Now to avoid making fleet holdings pointless, the public version of these facilities would not include fleet-specific equipment stores, but rather standard stores like any public hub. When a fleet member visits say the starbase, he or she would load into the fleet version. Anyone not associated with a fleet would load into the public version.
The important thing is to make sure that there is always a perk to joining a fleet.
An added mechanic to this system would be a requirement to keep the facilities supplied, which would involved weekly quotas of materials and personnel like the progression objectives require, but minus dilithium costs. Dilithium costs would only be involved in the unlocking of each tier, and once unlocked, only commodities upkeep would be required. Failing to meet upkeep costs could result in the facility degrading to a lower tier.
These facilities could have daily missions that yield choice rewards for commodities needed in thye current seasonal content, so there would be a end-game worthy use for them. At all tiers these rewards would be available, but the tier the facility in question is at would determine the quantity of the commodity that gets awarded.
The costs for each of these would be based on player metrics. So the requirements may fluctuate from assignment to assignment. Lowest requirement would assume half of the active player population participating in the system.
What this would mean is that we could all contribute to the progress of the construction of new public zones. As that progress is made we would ALL see those zones evolve and grow around us.
Now to avoid making fleet holdings pointless, the public version of these facilities would not include fleet-specific equipment stores, but rather standard stores like any public hub. When a fleet member visits say the starbase, he or she would load into the fleet version. Anyone not associated with a fleet would load into the public version.
The important thing is to make sure that there is always a perk to joining a fleet.
An added mechanic to this system would be a requirement to keep the facilities supplied, which would involved weekly quotas of materials and personnel like the progression objectives require, but minus dilithium costs. Dilithium costs would only be involved in the unlocking of each tier, and once unlocked, only commodities upkeep would be required. Failing to meet upkeep costs could result in the facility degrading to a lower tier.
These facilities could have daily missions that yield choice rewards for commodities needed in thye current seasonal content, so there would be a end-game worthy use for them. At all tiers these rewards would be available, but the tier the facility in question is at would determine the quantity of the commodity that gets awarded.
"There can be no meeting of the minds between two parties
if both parties are not willing to meet in the middle."
-Ambassador Samuel J. Stone
if both parties are not willing to meet in the middle."
-Ambassador Samuel J. Stone
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I was Klingon before Klingon was cool.
Rather, I think it would work better if there was a basic area acting as a "hub", and further projects would be used to expand this area, depending on what route people want to take. So if people want to expand said area, they put their money/resources where their mouths are. So they decide what they want to build on next, perhaps having several areas and then people can donate to the projects of the areas they want to see more of.
Indeed using this system could be a way of taking player feedback on the games future, if I remember correctly it was intended that they would integrate a system like that into the reputation system, so why not put the two together? Indeed, expand upon it as a way of adding in new sector blocks, species (maybe even factions with really huge projects).
The problem is if there was a big public one, it would render the development of a fleet one pointless when the public one was completed (as people would just head for the public one. So it would need to offer something different. A starbase would be a nice starting point for the system, which would then be expanded to other areas, maybe adding more exploration of planets in game like Earth, Vulcan, Andoria, Qo'Nos or New Romulus?
Funding exploration missions to add new sector blocks, or diplomatic missions for new species would be a nice addition as well. Obviously Cryptic/CBS would have the ultimate say in what would be decided, and would have to have the stuff prepared in advance, but I'm sure they could set the resource amounts to whatever they want.
They clearly have an interest in "time gating" content, so why not make this the basis for future content?
as you said, if you are a member of a fleet, when you visit the holding, you go to your fleet's instance of that holding.
this would mean i guess that any fleet version could be differant to any other fleets version, just like a starbase or embassy ect.
i would rather the area was just the same for every player regardless of fleet much like new rom is but instead of being static like new rom where no matter what has been given in rep has made no differance to the overall look that things change day by day as people donate stuff.
it would also be good if comodities and dilithium ect could be syphened off to smaller fleets who are below a certain level but without any detriment to the progress of the area itself.
any donations to the area would be rewarded to the player as standard fleet marks that he/she could use to buy fleet gear as normal.
this would encourage players who are even in small fleets to donate to the project rather then their own fleet.
if perchance a non fleet members were to donate stuff they could be rewarded in a choice of marks or somesuch.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
I seems to be a way to gain Fleet Credits w/waiting on your own fleet's projects aka personal gain.
It's a way of giving the illusion that the players are in charge of the game's future direction, and give some feeling that they are contributing towards the game's future (they aren't really, it just looks that way).
It's just another way of adding content, and ensuring there is going to be new content being added and developed over time. Obviously this will always be there, but it gives us a picture of where things are heading, and gives Cryptic an idea what people are looking for (and where they are willing to spend their money).
Well you might as well share it here, better to get it out, as one bit might be enough to encourage somebody reading it to implement the system.
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
1. I don't get what benefit players would get that they don't get in a fleet.
2. If it is the whole community that contributes what is to stop most people freeloading off a few whales.
3. I don't see what Cryptic/PWE would get from this that would justify the resources needed to implement.
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
This would likely mean it's a location with a cover where contributions have to be handled "on site".
If you're going to basically have a venue with cover charges, then you probably also need to have some special stuff there so it isn't ignored by players who are in fleets.
As odd as it sounds, this would probably make the most sense as an ongoing "telethon" style public location where contributions (both number and quantity) turn various systems online and open up special vendors, rewards, games, and activities.
Also, you probably want several methods of contribution that all go towards the same pool of keeping the station online.
But basically, thematically, it would probably be represented as an advanced station under constant siege that is falling apart... And keeping it online would be a mix of people funneling in EC, dilithium, and maybe completing No Win Scenario style events. Enough teamwork and contribution could do things like get a T5 shipyard on for an hour, open up weapons vendors, etc.
The simplest and logical solution, is for a player to look for and find a fleet that is compatible with his/her attitude/playstyle.
Then the person benefits from good company, fleet holdings and projects to contribute to.
If anything, I would like Cryptic to make Fleets gain more bonuses towards it's members.
Bonus experience, An extra 1 or 2k dilithium refinement per day, Bonus marks.
I am sure however, that my ideas would come with their own set of problems.
I take it as another step up, there is reputation for the single player level, fleet holdings for fleets, then a third tier for the entire player base. The suggested implementation simply isn't a good idea, but the core idea is good. We don't need public access to spires/embassies/etc. the system should be used for something else, rather than just duplicating what is already there. That's why I suggested it be used to "construct" social hubs, either future ones or expand on existing ones.
Great idea in theory, but since when has Cryptic listened to anyone's great ideas? That has NEVER happened, never will because i completely agree with your position. Ive suggest, others have suggested a public space for those that are no apart of a fleet to participate in the building of something, they lost out on the opportunity to do this with the New Romulan Republic. But as others have pointed out, i don't want the same that has already been given. Besides, Cryptic would TRIBBLE it up one way or another.