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    fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    This ship is very PvP oriented. And there are still better options for PvE. No need to get alarmed.
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    jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think it is dumb that they used the patrol escort skin on it. They should have used a skin from a ship that is not in game yet.

    I think the freedom class would have been a good choice here, just so I could make some popcorn and watch the arguments over how ugly it is/isn't. :D

    Honestly I would be tempted to get it if it used a canon skin (that is not in the game yet), but honestly I don't see myself getting one.
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    jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    This little ship also replaces the entire Fed cruiser line as a Beamscort
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    wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    yeah,

    TT APB1 FAW3 APO3
    ET1 A2B1 EPtW3
    EPtS1 A2B1 RSP2
    HE1 ST2

    yeah and you know what a really good pvper sees now with the trait revamp and all?? = squishy, yeah you go ahead with that build if you want to just remember when you blow up...its not the ship it you ....oh wait it is the ship..........................................and you too
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    wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    doesnt look too bad, would be nice if kdf would get something like this

    Helm come to mark 113.6 bring weapons online and excute attack pattern tears................................................................................................and so it begins already "they got it why cant we (klingons) have it ??!!!!"
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    wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    since the fleet patrol escort's layout is now gone..can we get it on the fleet defiant?

    hmmmm a revamp hmmm??? i smell it coming for the intrepid and the defiant a new 3 pack like they did with the galaxy
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    rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    wildweasal wrote: »
    yeah and you know what a really good pvper sees now with the trait revamp and all?? = squishy, yeah you go ahead with that build if you want to just remember when you blow up...its not the ship it you ....oh wait it is the ship..........................................and you too

    ??? who said anything about pvp? the other guys were talking about pve....


    also,
    I pvp just fine. Been doing it since 2 weeks after f2p.

    for pvp I would use something similar to edalgo's build.

    but yeah... comments like that just make a fool of yourself... Builds should fit the pilot and not be made in a box, but whatever dude...
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    skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think it is dumb that they used the patrol escort skin on it. They should have used a skin from a ship that is not in game yet.

    Totally disagree. I prefer they release faction ships this way, that way you have choices for ship parts.
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    thibashthibash Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'm not sure I understand...why does this replace previous escorts exactly? Sure, it has an extra tactical slot...but that can be worked around with universal consoles that boost damage too. Meanwhile, the Armitage has a hangar slot that gives it a lot of flexibility. So unless I'm missing something, it's just another version of the same thing?
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    decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    wildweasal wrote: »
    Helm come to mark 113.6 bring weapons online and excute attack pattern tears................................................................................................and so it begins already "they got it why cant we (klingons) have it ??!!!!"

    Makes a change from they have it why can't we Feds have it, *cough*cloak*cough*battle cloak*cough*.
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    adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Dooooooooooooooooommmm!!!!!!
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    architect13architect13 Member Posts: 1,076 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Defiant has better turn-rate, a smaller profile (harder to spot and click in a furball), and can cloak.

    It definitely makes the FAE obsolete. Same turn-rate, more hit-points, more shields, more Sci BOFF seats (assuming uni). Better in every way.

    Don't forget the Defiant has 3 ensign tac slots . . . Woohoo!
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    lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Pretty gives a Fed Only Escort that is on par with the Mobius. The LTC Universal offers way more than any 5th Tac Console could or fixed tail gun. Although the Mobius is better looking.
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    neppakyoneppakyo Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    thibash wrote: »
    I'm not sure I understand...why does this replace previous escorts exactly? Sure, it has an extra tactical slot...but that can be worked around with universal consoles that boost damage too. Meanwhile, the Armitage has a hangar slot that gives it a lot of flexibility. So unless I'm missing something, it's just another version of the same thing?

    Its the boff layout which makes it superior to all fed based escorts, putting it on par with some lockbox ships.

    Properly piloted/gear/boff'd new escort vs Properly piloted/gear/boff'd defiant(or any other fed made escort), defiant loses.
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    adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I still don't see why anyone would want to Aux2Batt the thing, I mean, if it's run as a beamboat then you can do something like:

    TT, FAW, APB, CSV (for the rear DC)
    TT, FAW, APB
    EPtS/W, EPtS/W, RSP/Aux2SIF/DEM (if you really want dps over survival)
    HE, TSS/ST

    Which would work fine without removing the aux power.

    Or you could run cannons on the same layout, of course if you ran a torp you would have zero boff wastage.
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    hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So, wheres the KDF equivalent of this ship?? I would say its coming, remeber how they did the Mogh and Avenger??
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    umaekoumaeko Member Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    @Hyefather: You're in the Fed shipyard forum. It's normal for people here to discuss Fed ships, and not gripe about how unfair it is for the latest ship to not be a Klingon ship. Just FYI.

    Your KDF equivalent right now is the Fleet Norgh. That thing you've had for quite some time now. This is the first time Starfleet fields a ship that actually has 2 LtC Boff seats. Only one is universal, not all. It doesn't battlecloak. It is somewhat tougher than a Raider and does come with a 5th tac slot (something the Norgh doesn't have). The Norgh, as a Raider, can flank. The Tempest, with its tailgun, can possibly counter that to some (uncertain) extent.
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    hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    For everyone out there that didn't get a Undine Nicor this ship looks to almost be same in stats, with a +2 to turn rate. I like it.
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    adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think this ship is a fail for having to pay 2500 zen. The design is just a new paint job same as the escort. I suppose I'm bias bc I currently have this ugly ship(original). Its at best a slight upgrade and only good for some that are trying to have some higher end BoFF abilities with the 4,3,2,3 setup vs others of 4,3,2,2,1 (or similar variants with 5 BoFFs). I think my biggest issue with it more than anything is its just UGLY!!
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    neppakyoneppakyo Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'll probably get this, and apply my hirogen hunter build on it with mods.

    Commander Tac: TT1,CRF1,CRF2,APO
    Lt Commander Eng: Epte1, a2d1,a2d2
    Lt Commander Uni: ET1, Epts2, DEM2(or RSP2)
    Lt Sci: ST1,HE2

    or maybe..

    Commander Tac: TT1,CRF1,CRF2,APO
    Lt Commander Eng: Epte1, a2d1,RSP2(or DEM2)
    Lt Commander Uni: Epts1,a2d1, RSP2(or DEM2)
    Lt Sci: ST1,HE2

    The boff layouts give me choices for interesting things >.>
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    mrgrocer56mrgrocer56 Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    all the expected whining aside, this ship is enough to get me back on one of my long neglected Fed Tacs. I enjoyed the FPE back in the day and always liked its looks, I saw it as a pure gunship like a modern day Hind or Apache.
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    ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'm most tempted to get it for my sci, since its so much better than the FAE
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    tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    This is a nice ship, especially the fleet version.

    Thought it will be phaser only I guess, or rainbowing the tail-gun.

    Anyway the 2 Lt Com slots is a good thing, more ships need it.
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    coffeemikecoffeemike Member Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So do we know if the 4th aft weapon is a Phaser-based one?
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    jjdezjjdez Member Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It's official, the first one I saw in game, (ker'rat), was running Aux2FAW. Yuck. But hey, the guy probably didn't even need to train a new BOff for it...
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    mrgrocer56mrgrocer56 Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jjdez wrote: »
    It's official, the first one I saw in game, (ker'rat), was running Aux2FAW. Yuck. But hey, the guy probably didn't even need to train a new BOff for it...

    Bleh, but we all knew it was coming
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    ltdata96ltdata96 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    coffeemike wrote: »
    So do we know if the 4th aft weapon is a Phaser-based one?

    Yeah, it is
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    coffeemikecoffeemike Member Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'll wait for the secondary deflectors then on my Vesta
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    captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I wonder what will happen to those of us who own the old FPE?

    Btw, has anyone who already owns the old FPE tried buying the new one? I wonder what would happen..
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    ltdata96ltdata96 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I wonder what will happen to those of us who own the old FPE?

    Btw, has anyone who already owns the old FPE tried buying the new one? I wonder what would happen..

    You keep the old one and it stays unchanged, you have to buy the new one.

    Kinda annoying, though this way you can keep using the old one as well...
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