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Endeavor Class

chuzordie5chuzordie5 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Ive read that this class was Perpetuals .. but its still in STO as its been mentioned in multiple threads.. so im asking for an official DEV response for this..

is the ship bad..
what was the layout of the ship.
what TIER would it be in todays ship structure
can we Endeavor to get it back into the hands of future captains

even if you dont like the ship.
there are people who hate scimis due to there size..
those that hate BoPs for ther wimpyness

and those that believe that this is now escort - beamatards online ( spo ive heard )

just lookin a " new " 2410 beginner ship or a possibly make it a Fed T4 that Roms could pilot and use singularitys on..

something.


Oh Devs..
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  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    The Endeavor is a Nebula class ship.

    http://www.ericksmodels.com/gallery/endeav/bottom-front.jpg
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  • chuzordie5chuzordie5 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    age03 wrote: »
    The Endeavor is a Nebula class ship.

    http://www.ericksmodels.com/gallery/endeav/bottom-front.jpg


    not here..
    http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/Yreodred/Star%20Trek%20Online/MB90u_zpsd093271c.jpg


    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=14017101&postcount=25
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    chuzordie5 wrote: »
    not here..
    http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/Yreodred/Star%20Trek%20Online/MB90u_zpsd093271c.jpg


    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=14017101&postcount=25
    That is not it though and it was a Constitution class as well.

    http://database.obsidianfleet.net/wiki/images/Endeavor.jpg
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  • chuzordie5chuzordie5 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    age03 wrote: »
    That is not it though and it was a Constitution class as well.

    http://database.obsidianfleet.net/wiki/images/Endeavor.jpg



    your finding ships named Endeavor..


    what ship is this http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/Yreodred/Star%20Trek%20Online/MB90u_zpsd093271c.jpg


    and what are its stats / boff layout

    where is this in STO that we might captain it again
  • chuzordie5chuzordie5 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    http://i.imgur.com/RZCyU4d.jpg


    and here as

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Online_%28Perpetual_Entertainment%29


    http://gaming.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/startrekonline/screens/perpetual/IntScreen.jpg

    and in the borg mission Fluid Dynamics

    http://imgur.com/a/1dRUX


    why can we not fly this.. its cool lookin, different
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It looks like a dog sitting on its TRIBBLE. The nacelles and engineering hull are the wrong shape for that saucer.

    And people say the Avenger is ugly.
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  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Perpetual called it the Excalibur class, not the Endeavor; and it has never been a playable ship in STO. In fact, before 'Surface Tension' it had never been seen in game except as space debris. It has no stats or Boff seating, unless Cryptic is working on introducing it for real in the future.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Like the Jupiter and Typhoon it's a relic from when STO was still owned by Perpetual. Supposedly it was even going to be that games Enterprise F.

    Up until now it was only used as space debris in a couple of the early missions. I have no idea why Cryptic put it in that cutscene.
  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Well guess we'll have to wait and see.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    There is some interesting Perpetual designs. So it makes sense for some of these ships to see some use. If STO currently has Perpetual's Excalibur in the game, then it is just a matter of time before it is available for our use. After all, the Wells class was introduced weeks before the Temporal Lockbox and Cryptic was saying that we wouldn't be getting it.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    It looks like a dog sitting on its TRIBBLE. The nacelles and engineering hull are the wrong shape for that saucer.

    And people say the Avenger is ugly.

    More like a Dog sitting on it's TRIBBLE, dragging it across the rug.
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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Perhaps they should have used the Perpetual designs as the Mirror Universe ships. :P
    starkaos wrote: »
    There is some interesting Perpetual designs. So it makes sense for some of these ships to see some use. If STO currently has Perpetual's Excalibur in the game, then it is just a matter of time before it is available for our use. After all, the Wells class was introduced weeks before the Temporal Lockbox and Cryptic was saying that we wouldn't be getting it.

    I like the Tahoe, The Unknown next to it, and the Nelson. I would not mind seeing the Nelson perhaps to be adapted into a Federation Carrier Frigate. :D
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    That ship is just hideous! And I thought the Odyssey look ugly. That ship you shown takes the cake on ugliness.

    Some don't like the Avenger's look. I love it.
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  • beerxhyperbeerxhyper Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    i like the tahoe and the unknowen to the right of the tahoe right next to it those are the ones i wanna see in game =D


  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    beerxhyper wrote: »
    i like the tahoe and the unknowen to the right of the tahoe right next to it those are the ones i wanna see in game =D

    A second for Tahoe, also, the Ramjet (nice Transformers ref), and the Phoenix are nice.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Seeing the ship in question here, I love the design of the saucer, though think it's been implemented (in some form or other) into the Heavy Escort and Assault Cruiser skins.

    The rest of the ship (hull specifically) is just too ugly.
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  • nikkojtnikkojt Member Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    chuzordie5 wrote: »
    not here..
    http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/Yreodred/Star%20Trek%20Online/MB90u_zpsd093271c.jpg


    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=14017101&postcount=25

    That's the Excalibur-class. It's never been referred to as Endeavour to my knowledge.
    There are so very many threads about this ship, on Reddit, in the Art section, in GD itself...
    I personally hope it never gets added beyond maybe the saucer as a Gal/Sovereign option. It's just plain ugly. It's unbalanced. The engineering hull is way too small for it, at least with a neck that size.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    centersolace wrote: »
    Like the Jupiter and Typhoon it's a relic from when STO was still owned by Perpetual. Supposedly it was even going to be that games Enterprise F.

    I guess that's one thing to be thankful to Cryptic for. At least the Odyssey has some measure of visual balance to it. (Yes, I know it's a fan design. Shut up.)
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nikkojt wrote: »
    That's the Excalibur-class. It's never been referred to as Endeavour to my knowledge.
    There are so very many threads about this ship, on Reddit, in the Art section, in GD itself...
    I personally hope it never gets added beyond maybe the saucer as a Gal/Sovereign option. It's just plain ugly. It's unbalanced. The engineering hull is way too small for it, at least with a neck that size.
    starswordc wrote: »
    It looks like a dog sitting on its TRIBBLE.

    This sums up my feelings of it, but while I don't like the Excalibur, there are other Perpetual designs that are cool. If they make the Excalibur available, then they will likely make the others available.
  • derrico1derrico1 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    purpetual had great interiors and crew decks for each of there ships besides bridges , observation loundge,and ready rooms which were different based on ships ..... i know cryptic would never make such a move for this but think the would make such great bundles to sell in c store and those who didnt want to buy them could get those old odd styles they created .....
  • zeratkzeratk Member Posts: 409
    edited April 2014
    That ship is ugly as hell....uargh.

    Besides that nice concept art from perpetual. Especially the corridor graphics looks nice. Would like those! :cool:
    This is Crypticverse... :mad:
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    derrico1 wrote: »
    i wish cryptic would make the following in game !!!!!
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:STO_(Perpetual)_Galaxy_corridor.jpg
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:STO_(Perpetual)_Vulcan_female_observation_lounge_concept.jpg
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:STO_(Perpetual)_Sovereign_corridor.jpg

    You really need to edit your links.

    Cryptic certainly needs customizable ship interiors.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    chuzordie5 wrote: »
    your finding ships named Endeavor..


    what ship is this http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/Yreodred/Star%20Trek%20Online/MB90u_zpsd093271c.jpg


    and what are its stats / boff layout

    where is this in STO that we might captain it again

    If you want to go that way.Then here it is.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Endeavour_%28NCC-1895%29

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Endeavour_%28NCC-39272%29

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Endeavour_%28NCC-71805%29
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  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    There is some interesting Perpetual designs. So it makes sense for some of these ships to see some use. If STO currently has Perpetual's Excalibur in the game, then it is just a matter of time before it is available for our use. After all, the Wells class was introduced weeks before the Temporal Lockbox and Cryptic was saying that we wouldn't be getting it.

    That is actually a very important picture if you look at it. The Rapier class escort is there and the Sacagewea is basically the Aquarius escort. the Unknown next to the Sacagawea reminds me of the original Defiant idea that it would just be a supe'd up Runabout.

    The likelihood of the Excalibur becoming playable in the near future seems highly likely looking at that.

    I'm curious as to what role they would have it fill.
    beerxhyper wrote: »
    i like the tahoe and the unknowen to the right of the tahoe right next to it those are the ones i wanna see in game =D
    The Tahoe is also my number one pic. The Unknown seems to be an Excalibur variant.
    derrico1 wrote: »
    purpetual had great interiors and crew decks for each of there ships besides bridges , observation loundge,and ready rooms which were different based on ships ..... i know cryptic would never make such a move for this but think the would make such great bundles to sell in c store and those who didnt want to buy them could get those old odd styles they created .....

    That is certainly true. They were able to duplicate the TNG interiors and that style with high fidelity. They also had far more time to actually do that than Cryptic did. I am curious why we haven't gotten the Origin ship interiors yet.
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  • derrico1derrico1 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    chuzordie5 wrote: »
    your finding ships named Endeavor..


    what ship is this http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/Yreodred/Star%20Trek%20Online/MB90u_zpsd093271c.jpg


    and what are its stats / boff layout

    where is this in STO that we might captain it again


    that was purpetuals idea for the enterprise F .... its also called the endeavor class starship...
  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    No, its not.

    What you see is concept art, they produced nothing outside concept art.

    At no point that would mean that would be in the final product and the fact is they had no final product, only concept art.

    Cryptic did a rush job? yes but they had about 2 years to finish as they had a deadline... Perpetual? for 4 years were they only produced concept art and UI mockups concepts during all that time.

    I am pretty sure Cryptic can deliver pages and pages of concept art too, we had some Romulan clothing concept for LoR that arent available and no indication they were every anything beyond concept.

    Well we've clearly seen that with some of the hair and uniform options that they made for Legacy that haven't quite made it to us yet.

    I thought Perpetual had actually built some of the actual interiors such as the conference room, just not in any playable form. Relax though, I know the definition of Vaporware.
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  • purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    No, its not.

    What you see is concept art, they produced nothing outside concept art.

    At no point that would mean that would be in the final product and the fact is they had no final product, only concept art.

    Cryptic did a rush job? yes but they had about 2 years to finish as they had a deadline... Perpetual? for 4 years were they only produced concept art and UI mockups concepts during all that time.

    I am pretty sure Cryptic can deliver pages and pages of concept art too, we had some Romulan clothing concept for LoR that arent available and no indication they were every anything beyond concept.

    Should Perpetual have finished an MMO in 2 years? 4 years? I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Perpetual simply ran out of money before they could truly get started.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    More like a Dog sitting on it's TRIBBLE, dragging it across the rug.

    Yes indeed.

    And [sarcasm]thanks a lot.[/sarcasm] I've hated that ugly thing since the first time I saw it. Now with this description, I want it playable just so I can fly one named Butt Scootin' Doggie.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    purplegamer wrote: »
    Should Perpetual have finished an MMO in 2 years? 4 years? I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Perpetual simply ran out of money before they could truly get started.

    they ran out of money because they wasted it all on concept art and models that werent even used in the right engine.... the game didnt have any engine, in game assets, ALL they had was their concept art and a few mock up screenshots. they WASTED their money.

    in 4 years they should have had more than a couple mock ups and a bunch of drawings.

    Cryptic was forced to launch the game in 2 years as part of their contract with CBS after the Perpetual Floundering.
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