PWI Refining Simulator

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
edited May 2013 in The Crafting Nook
Hey all!

It's been a while since I've made a new toy but I think I have something you guys will like.
The hardest part about refining used to be making sure to combine the right amount of 1 stars to get higher order dragon orbs but these days a great deal of refining is done without dragon orbs at all. A lot of people don't have much experience with this and don't know what to expect. Now those people have no excuse!

PWI Refining Simulator

This tool will let you practice your refining skills and gives you lots of feedback about how well you are doing. I made an effort to match the in-game refining experience as closely as possible and things turned out well. You can even choose which NPC you want to refine at and you will get the exact same effect as there is in game!

Comments and Suggestions are welcome and encouraged!

Tested in Firefox, Chrome, and Safari
Works PARTIALLY in IE


TODO:
- Finished

Change Log:
2012-07-20 - Initial Release
2012-07-22 - Cleaned up the interface, added IE support (tooltips broken though)
2012-07-24 - Added PWCalc.com integration
2012-07-24 - Added Auto-Refine plugin by STommys - Heavens Tear
2012-07-25 - Added change refine prices by clicking result icon
2012-07-31 - Embedded in-game fonts!
2012-08-11 - Added a few more random gears for no reason
2012-08-16 - Added a discussion box cause why not!
2012-09-18 - Added option to select male/female, fixed autorefine bug on item reset
-Asterelle
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Refining Simulator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/refiningsimulator.html (don't use IE)
Genie Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/geniecalculator.html - (don't use IE)
Socket Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html
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  • GallaxXIII - Sanctuary
    GallaxXIII - Sanctuary Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    so... its unsupported by microsofts COMPATABLE explorer..

    figures. ive seen computers with 400,000 mb's of internet cache and bugged up browsers with chrome.
    stop downloading stupid things like chrome... trust me, its NOT netter than IE....
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  • GallaxXIII - Sanctuary
    GallaxXIII - Sanctuary Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    add on: chrome doesnt show the 8 billion toolbars you download either xD
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  • Fail_BM - Raging Tide
    Fail_BM - Raging Tide Posts: 929 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Do you really need 5 mirages to try to refine Rr9? o.O
  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Awesome toy! :D

    I tried it for about 30 min, and I can't seem to get the bow to 7+ with over 100 mil of mirages and refine aids. D: Can anyone?
  • Slegtst - Dreamweaver
    Slegtst - Dreamweaver Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    so... its unsupported by microsofts COMPATABLE explorer..

    figures. ive seen computers with 400,000 mb's of internet cache and bugged up browsers with chrome.
    stop downloading stupid things like chrome... trust me, its NOT netter than IE....
    1. I dont trust you.

    2. Chrome is better than IE.


    Nice tool yo! :D
    Oh, and LMAO at those luck options. xD
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    add on: chrome doesnt show the 8 billion toolbars you download either xD

    Nice trolling mate


    I LOVE the active chatbar you put under it Asterelle b:laugh
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    New toy, woot.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    That was fun. It took me 357 tries and 25 tienkangs to refine matchless wings to +5.
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  • KingCrash - Dreamweaver
    KingCrash - Dreamweaver Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Stop whispering me. >.<
  • gyroki
    gyroki Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    As long as the "random" routine of your calculator isn't the same as on server side (server hardware + software), it won't be the same like in-game b:surrender

    I'm sure I'll get flamed for this statement, but I don't believe that this game has a proper working "randomizer".
  • Subtraction - Harshlands
    Subtraction - Harshlands Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited July 2012
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  • chaoticshelly
    chaoticshelly Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm going to move this to the crafting nook and sticky it there, because it deserves to be stickied (and I cannot sticky it in the GD). Awesome tool, Asterelle!
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I just refined a cascade glow helm to +12 with 307 mirages, 6 tienkangs, and a bunch of d.orbs. Total cost 584,515,000 coins. Don't know if that's good or not. XD I'd never get something to +12 in all likelihood. b:chuckle

    edit:

    So I did something kinda different. I know several people who claim moving to a different NPC or coming back later seemed to help them refine using mirages and such when they are having bad luck. I myself think it's probably the act of clearing the refine box of fails/successes that affects refine success because I feel like it resets something or something. Just superstition of course but I decided to check it out. I only did a very small sample size this time around because i'm tired and my hand hurts. Anyway, I decided to use mirages continuously to get to +4 and to also cancel out as if I was coming back later/moving npcs every time it failed an excessive number of times. To see if I got better results. For the purposes of my experiment an excessive number of fails was 5 of them.
    Canceling after fail	Continously Refining
    Trial 1	620000	12470000
    Trial 2	1990000	270000
    Trial 3	170000	6030000
    Trial 4	1690000	1260000
    Trial 5	90000	2400000
    Trial 6	1500000	1950000
    Trial 7	700000	1080000
    Trial 8	2090000	770000
    Average:	1106250	3278750
    

    That was my result. It's obviously too small a sample size to conclude anything, especially when given the excessively bad luck I had with trial 1. But it did seem to be cheaper to come back later or switch NPCs then it did to continuously refine it. Obviously coming back later does affect my luck to some extent. XD
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    awesome, loved the chat D:
    (technically spike is not a pony though :b)
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    This has to be the first actually useful troll I've seen.

    Nice job, Asty. Now off to be a tranny archer having affairs with other tranny archers!
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm going to move this to the crafting nook and sticky it there, because it deserves to be stickied (and I cannot sticky it in the GD). Awesome tool, Asterelle!

    Thanks for the sticky but I think people are having a hard time finding in this subforum if they don't already know about it. Could you leave it in general discussion for a few days before moving it here?
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    Refining Simulator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/refiningsimulator.html (don't use IE)
    Genie Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/geniecalculator.html - (don't use IE)
    Socket Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thanks for the sticky but I think people are having a hard time finding in this subforum if they don't already know about it. Could you leave it in general discussion for a few days before moving it here?

    I agree with this as well, it was a bit early to move, needed some exposure at least from Gen. Discussion.
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  • chaoticshelly
    chaoticshelly Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Alright, but I'm worried it'll be missed there with the volume of other topics posted there daily. Remind me to sticky this back at the crafting nook in say, 4-5 days?
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    12 mill on foundation of the world in mirages w/o +3 for tienkang, is it because I picked rainbow dash?
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Sadly.. my refining luck isn't any better with this than in game.

    600 mirages, +5 highest I could get. b:sad
  • Genghiskhan - Heavens Tear
    Genghiskhan - Heavens Tear Posts: 321 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Fun stuff Aste...got the weapon to +12 for just over 250 mil
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thanks Shelly, will do.

    After doing this http://i.imgur.com/elbHa.png
    I'm considering adding some sort of high score or something.


    Maybe I should write a series of challenges / Achievements...

    1) Get a +5 refine in under 100 mirages (no orbs allowed).
    2) Refine to +7 using less than 10m coins.
    3) Refine to +6 using only mirages.
    4) Get a +12 refine using less than 200m coins.
    5) Refine everything to +6 without orbs.

    stuff like that.
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    Refining Simulator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/refiningsimulator.html (don't use IE)
    Genie Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/geniecalculator.html - (don't use IE)
    Socket Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thanks Shelly, will do.

    After doing this http://i.imgur.com/elbHa.png
    I'm considering adding some sort of high score or something.


    Maybe I should write a series of challenges / Achievements...

    1) Get a +5 refine in under 100 mirages (no orbs allowed).
    2) Refine to +7 using less than 10m coins.
    3) Refine to +6 using only mirages.
    4) Get a +12 refine using less than 200m coins.
    5) Refine everything to +6 without orbs.

    stuff like that.

    I would suggest adding an optional "quantity possessed" value to mirages, refine aids and orbs. Obviously it'd decrease every time you use one of said items.
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    That's just awesome. Lol at the chat. XD


    Gosh, if I could +5 stuff ingame with just 10 mirages ._.'
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I would suggest adding an optional "quantity possessed" value to mirages, refine aids and orbs. Obviously it'd decrease every time you use one of said items.

    In an early plan I was going to make you buy mirages/refining aids from catshops (with comparison shopping) and have to go to a jewelcrafter to manufacture dragon orbs out of 1 stars b:surrender

    Those features got cut though D: so sad.
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    Refining Simulator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/refiningsimulator.html (don't use IE)
    Genie Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/geniecalculator.html - (don't use IE)
    Socket Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Twilight Sparkle is best pony! Of the mane 6.

    Octavia is best pony overall!

    But on topic I really enjoyed this tool Ast. Loved the lil things you put in, such as the WC talk, faction chat, and best pony option box.
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  • Accalica - Heavens Tear
    Accalica - Heavens Tear Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Had fun with this b:chuckle Foundation of world went to +9 with no ref aid and all in 9 clicks...
    So this is the time u wish that happened to you ingame..b:surrender after that no items
    really went past +6 in a row for me. xD
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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    If there as an award for most contributing member of the community, Asterelle would win.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited July 2012


    Maybe I should write a series of challenges / Achievements...

    1) Get a +5 refine in under 100 mirages (no orbs allowed).

    http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/15/45/89/38/5mirag10.jpg
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  • I_willscrewU - Sanctuary
    I_willscrewU - Sanctuary Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Very nice Tool to play with i must say... +1 in unsuporting IE b:victory chrome all the way