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krisndakrisnda Forum cat Posts: 4,654 Community Moderator
edited January 2012 in Venomancer

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Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 50% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark Looks decent, just needs more explaining.

Yaoqi hit: fox form skill, turn your target into a little frog, the frog can only use normal atk(5.0aps frog?), last 6sec. 27meter/1min/50chi Just weird xD

Dance: both veno and pet anti stun for 10sec, increase pet atk and acc by 100%. 3min/1spark, pet must be in range of 35meters. Awesome skill.

Nether Spirit of Fire: new reflect buff, available in pvp , reduce dmg recieve by 30%, reflect back 100% phy atk, 15sec. 1min/1spark could of just made bramble work in pvp, seems like a weaker bramble hood.

vigor break: fox form skill, decrease target chi by 150. melee/30sec/25chi ok I guess.

Yan Mie Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 100% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark

From:http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=15365691&postcount=208

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  • Mayfly - DreamweaverMayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    At 27 meters, the Yaoqi hit is by far the longest range foxform skill, and is obviously aimed at casters, not 5APS autoattackers. Though it could keep an assassin from shadow escaping...

    Vigor break is probably best used in conjunction with crush vigor.
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  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens TearPhoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Along with Cleric's i think they are the most unique ... seem nice in theory but we will have to see them in real use to judge.
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  • King_Solomon - Heavens TearKing_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    For the case Yaoqi can be used in fox form we have a very usable skill for PvP.

    Dance is not that good. After all genies can do quite the same without the spark cost.

    Lock soul is a nice one. Should allow parasitic nova combos to get even better for PvP. For PvE I don't think one is to use noxious on single targets instead of venomous in order to get the damage boost.

    Nether spirit of fire is the new formula for QQ. It's going to make r9 sins and 5aps bms run from venos.

    Vigor break doesn't look very usable but let's see how long it takes to channel...


    To sum up, we have lots of new tricks for PvP but concerning PvE it's quite the same as ever.
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  • Korren - Lost CityKorren - Lost City Posts: 339 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    b:angry

    this is magic!
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  • Korren - Lost CityKorren - Lost City Posts: 339 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    b:pleased

    another one
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  • Nine_Lives - Raging TideNine_Lives - Raging Tide Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited December 2011

    frog skill? b:chuckle her opponent has a coin in the mouth
  • Vitenka - DreamweaverVitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Frankly, I'll believe them when I see them. And see how much cash-shop you have to shell out to get them.

    Duplicating something and then AOEing it sounds interesting though.
  • Hexalot - DreamweaverHexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Nether spirit of fire is the new formula for QQ. It's going to make r9 sins and 5aps bms run from venos.

    With a 15 sec duration and 1 min cool down... not bloody likely.
  • Mayfly - DreamweaverMayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Dance: both veno and pet anti stun for 10sec, increase pet atk and acc by 100%. 3min/1spark, pet must be in range of 35meters.
    Dance is not that good. After all genies can do quite the same without the spark cost.

    Um... which genie skill is it that buffs pets, exactly? Must have missed that one.
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  • The_love - Raging TideThe_love - Raging Tide Posts: 240 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WE SO WANT ALL THOSE SKILLS GIVE THEM TO US venos are in such a dissadvantage these days this will even up things
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  • Crescendia - HarshlandsCrescendia - Harshlands Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    This is all in a TW standpoint. I don't care much for other stuff. N i know that we don't know for sure what these skills will bring when they come out so im keeping an open mind about it.

    Venomancer
    Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 50% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark

    Well, I was hoping this skill could combat sins, but it seems its more for targetting casters. My expectations dont seem too grand for this skill, so for now, my idea is that I'll probably be using this alot on cata clerics and psychics ^^

    Yaoqi hit: fox form skill, turn your target into a little frog, the frog can only use normal atk(5.0aps frog?), last 6sec. 27meter/1min/50chi

    Such a great skill, probably the first skill I will obtain if it's possible. Definitely will be using this on Cata barbs and BM's lol


    Dance: both veno and pet anti stun for 10sec, increase pet atk and acc by 100%. 3min/1spark, pet must be in range of 35meters.

    Being a sage veno, I don't get an anti stun skill like demon veno's, so It's quite awesome that I'm getting one. Also, seems like it might be making the nix hit just a little bit harder for those 10 seconds, great for finishing off opponents.

    Nether Spirit of Fire: new reflect buff, available in pvp , reduce dmg recieve by 30%, reflect back 100% phy atk, 15sec. 1min/1spark

    This is probably the 3nd skill I'll probably get. It's like a bramble hood that only costs 1 spark and will probably do great damage to those archers, pesky BM's that start to aoe, and possibly a wizards blame tempest (purely situational tho)


    vigor break: fox form skill, decrease target chi by 150. melee/30sec/25chi

    Definitely will be the 2nd skill I obtain. What a game breaking skill in TW this one might be simply because of the cooldown and chi required to cast. Definitely will be used on everything that depends on chi (archers/catabarbs/bms) muhahahahahaha


    Yan Mie Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 100% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark

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  • karmeliakarmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Nothing that will restore a semblance of game balance between classes.

    Another PW failure.
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    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • Regenbogen - Lost CityRegenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    karmelia wrote: »
    Nothing that will restore a semblance of game balance between classes.

    Another PW failure.

    true

    frog thing...lol

    antistun sounds nice...
    cant be used when already stuned/stunlocked...
    hopefully the atk buff doesn't overwrite claw...

    reducing chi...
    why not adding it right away to your own...

    venomancer only have 2magic aoes...
    if that vodoo doll was just aoe...
    diving into an enemy group...setting up the doll right next to you...immunity skill/pot...watch everyone near you die from r9+12 aoes...most likely their own...
    great support for casters in mass pvp...
    i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss
  • krisndakrisnda Forum cat Posts: 4,654 Community Moderator
    edited December 2011
    I wonder how these skills would work from a PvE standpoint. xD
  • karmeliakarmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    krisnda wrote: »
    I wonder how these skills would work from a PvE standpoint. xD

    Let's see....
    Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 50% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark
    Useless. Better to simply send your pet to the target and launch attack spells directly to it. And 2 mins cooldown is way too much to make it usefull
    Yaoqi hit: fox form skill, turn your target into a little frog, the frog can only use normal atk(5.0aps frog?), last 6sec. 27meter/1min/50chi
    Useless.Most likely still faster to use the same method as before. Unless it also works on bosses, but I doubt it will.
    Dance: both veno and pet anti stun for 10sec, increase pet atk and acc by 100%. 3min/1spark, pet must be in range of 35meters.
    This one could be useful. But again, 3 mins cooldown is too long.
    Nether Spirit of Fire: new reflect buff, available in pvp , reduce dmg recieve by 30%, reflect back 100% phy atk, 15sec. 1min/1spark
    PvP skill apparently, so have no uses in PvE
    vigor break: fox form skill, decrease target chi by 150. melee/30sec/25chi
    .
    Do mobs have chi to begin with?
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    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • Asgardeus - SanctuaryAsgardeus - Sanctuary Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    krisnda wrote: »
    Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 50% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark
    Sounds more like a PK skill of some sorts to me. Or something versus aoe stuff. Weird o_o

    Yaoqi hit: fox form skill, turn your target into a little frog, the frog can only use normal atk(5.0aps frog?), last 6sec. 27meter/1min/50chi
    This one made me hit up my wife and her being veno... I told her if she uses it on me she's got to kiss me after so I get back into human form b:surrender Surely a skill for a nice giggle. But it sounds pretty damn nice to *unarm* someone.

    Dance: both veno and pet anti stun for 10sec, increase pet atk and acc by 100%. 3min/1spark, pet must be in range of 35meters. Awesome skill.
    Epic skill. That combined with nix b:dirty

    Nether Spirit of Fire: new reflect buff, available in pvp , reduce dmg recieve by 30%, reflect back 100% phy atk, 15sec. 1min/1spark
    Don't pvp, so ya b:surrender

    vigor break: fox form skill, decrease target chi by 150. melee/30sec/25chi
    Sorry, mob targets don't have chi ._. Another one that's pk only lol

    Hm, it's pretty mixed. Some skills can be very useful but others.. urgh. lol I'm curious about the requirements and costs of thew skills atm.
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  • Garcillis - Lost CityGarcillis - Lost City Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 50% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark.
    Looks useful for caster nirvana.
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  • Erryne - SanctuaryErryne - Sanctuary Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Looks useful for caster nirvana.

    .... Actually, you're quite right. On boss, I tend to spam my aoes since they deal more damage than my single target spells. With good timing, a single doll could be a great use of sparks for the whole squad.
  • AnimaBlanc - SanctuaryAnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    krisnda wrote: »

    Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 50% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark .

    I cant help but wonder about this very first one. I mean, in pvp where (with the stunlock/5aps/8/9 oneshots) do you find the time to channel this attack to make it usefull. If this supposed doll resembles the targetted opponent, it either needs to live long enough (mass pvp/TW) in order for this to work and in 1vs1 i cant help but think Ok, channel skill>what will i hit it with?>ok it's there>...i'm dead. Course it could be combined with the Dance anti stun.. but even then i find this one a bit iffy.


    Yaoqi hit: fox form skill, turn your target into a little frog, the frog can only use normal atk(5.0aps frog?), last 6sec. 27meter/1min/50chi

    This one is just going to be hilarious in TW/open pvp. Imagine a TW field with all sorts of frogs running about and veno's tagetting opponents like mad turning them into frogs.. BWHHAHAHAH XD

    Dance: both veno and pet anti stun for 10sec, increase pet atk and acc by 100%. 3min/1spark, pet must be in range of 35meters.

    Immediately i thought: "*snorts* Yeah... with a **** *** long cooldown. Hello still-annoying-as-***-stunlock."

    Nether Spirit of Fire: new reflect buff, available in pvp , reduce dmg recieve by 30%, reflect back 100% phy atk, 15sec. 1min/1spark

    Pretty effing redundant if you ask me =\ waste of an extra skill when the 2 prior one's should of never been changed in the first place.

    vigor break: fox form skill, decrease target chi by 150. melee/30sec/25chi

    +Mu zun's taunt say bye bye to 2 1/5 sparks but then again, how long will you still live to make this usefull i wonder.

    I'm not saying veno's are made of glass absolutely not, not saying their equivalent of a diamond either. Just to me, in comparison to the other class's skills, the veno ones seemed to be created in a last minute herp derp moment.

    To me they dont seem to add nor prevent -really- anything that what we've been asking/begging for for years. Others how ever -did- get it. or got pretty damn nice add-ons.
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  • lalonerlaloner Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Turning people into frogs doesn't seem very friendly.
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  • Baby_pho - Heavens TearBaby_pho - Heavens Tear Posts: 636 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    the dolls, frog, and anti stun sounds nice :3 and pvp bramble last 15 secs tho >.<. looks like ill b using my veno alot more now :P

    the dolls would b nice if u can use on bosses. b:cute

    they should add aoe pet skill
  • Desdi - SanctuaryDesdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    They certainly are unique XD Well, these changes in general are going to give a new different feeling to PWI but hey it's the updates we've been waiting!

    I can't judge on the skills yet unless I see them in action, or get information from someone that has used them since I'll most likely not have much time to play and get the skills until summer (in university atm :P)

    But hey dance looks like a really nice skill for the very reason that we finally get a pet buff we can cast ourselves XD
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  • SerenityMare - DreamweaverSerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Idk. I hope these skills REALLY help venos because it's been harder than ever to find squads on WC that need venos. Everyone is just like "Need sin 5 APS +10 link wep for inv plz" or seekers mostly. /facepalm

    Mystics are starting to replace clerics in lots of squads too.

    PWi needs to make new unique classes that won't degrade or make the other classes useless. Thus, I'm not really sure if these skills will help restore even a bit of the veno's importance or balance to the game.
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  • Xx_Deir_xx - Lost CityXx_Deir_xx - Lost City Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    atleast something good for old classes :) gratz venos :P should more think about all classes :O what about clerics , we need something more epic wenn I will come back in pwi b:victory

    go go go GMs we need more skillllllllssssss !!!! im 100% sure that will succes b:dirty
  • Mayfly - DreamweaverMayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    According to translations put in the thread in general discussions, yaoqi hit has been updated so the person turned into a frog can no longer attack. No more 5 aps frogs!
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  • krisndakrisnda Forum cat Posts: 4,654 Community Moderator
    edited December 2011
    According to translations put in the thread in general discussions, yaoqi hit has been updated so the person turned into a frog can no longer attack. No more 5 aps frogs!




    This thread has become 20% cooler. b:cool
  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens TearPhoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Comon people , turning faceroll cashshoppers into frogs , who could imagine a better way for revenge ???? We got just what others would kill for b:laughb:laugh
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  • Noveriot - Heavens TearNoveriot - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Does anyone have info on which faction is affiliated with which veno skills?
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