Stop the powerleveling in FCC!

Been suggested before...

Not going to change anytime soon...

(old rumor is was going back to a farming instance...maybe PV will replace? who nows)

I like the idea.
Barbs that doesn't use flesh ream and change to "human" form to tank in a tight situation and clerics that don't know what Ironheart skill does are things that i've seen and i don't want to get used to see that...

If this case isn't considered, PWI is going to be a game where people only help people from their faction (if they are wiling to learn) and people that they don't know from anywhere are just ignored because nowadays there's a high probability to squad with a noob.

See that in another point of view now: What if someone asks you for startegies for bh39 with your class for example? Are you able to give those people tips if you don't even know how to play your class at that level? Of course that you can (or should be able to) solo bh39, but can you teach them how to interact in a squad when you are off-line? If you solo the instance, it will only work one time.
If you teach that person some GOOD tips, they will never forget!

Resuming:
I really think that something must be done concerning fc. The game is starting to loose the fun because some rich guys got the same lvl that i do in a few days and they don't know how to use their skills at max potential... At the beginning, it would take an year in average to get lvl 75. But I've seen a lvl 101 r8 mystic just 2 days after genesis expansion... -.-

By the forum i can't tell if someone is a power lvler or not.
But in the game i can see that in a few seconds...

I know a wizzie that powerleveled his cleric to 100.
Full demon skills, I think.

He knows how to play his class b:surrender

The only thing is, with or without, there will always be some people that fail.
Can't help it. Reality.

Scarlet Fruit, BH Orbs, etc. b:chuckle

Guy power levels to 100 in a week, but continues to play the game for 2 years and becomes super pro at his class. He's still a hyper noob though. /sarcasm

It doesn't take a genius to play this game. If you dedicate enough time you'll be able to learn everything, regardless of how fast you leveled your character. OP and the rest of the world needs to stop QQing and live with it.

Evic you should read over what lunar said again.

people coming into the game plvling and then going into frost isn't just a waste for them and getting to know and enjoy the class they chose but in a situation he described it puts a hurt on the squads that player joins.

i've been through the same exact thing in a frost.

a 9x mystic pulled out a aoeing pet at the hands boss and wiped squad... his reply to it...

'oops.. didn't know that one aoed'....

and on top of this the mystic didn't have res buff on anyone cause 'it's only lvl 1 so i figured what's the point'....

Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That's plain ignorance. There will always be idiots that can't seem to grasp the basics of a game, whether it be this one or any other, but to place everyone who hypers in the same bracket is ignorant in itself.

I'm not gonna lie, I power leveled my Seeker to 9x in a couple of weeks, but I've been praised numerous times by my BH and FF squads for a job well done. Am I a hyper noob? I, personally, don't think so, and neither do my friends. As I stated in my first post, it all comes down to how much time someone dedicates to the game.

Edit: Also, T wasn't removed from the dictionary. My IGN is 5 letters.

i wouldnt call you a hyper noob but your playstyle reflects the current ongoing trend in PWI of people not willing to devote a lot of time to 1 character. I mean PWE itself encourages that by rep sale, packs .... There is nothing wrong with doing so except of this way of playing the game does not reflect the "chinese attitude" of how to play a MMORPG.

I mean i have seen so many people lvling several alts just because they reached endgame (lvl 101+) and then have bought all of their endgame gear and skills by $ so they got bored because there was nothing left to do and it all was so easy so they had to reroll for the next class. There with the same inpatience they hyper FC oracles ... and did it the same way ending up with chars in the 9x in a couple of weeks.

Dont get me wrong if you goal is to lvl as quick as possible and to get best stuff possible your way is the best to get there. But i think many people seem to forget that the way of getting to endgame and the pleasure of every new skill and aspect of your char by moving forward in small steps is what makes a MMORPG fun to play. If you prefer to get fast to Endgame PvP that's also ok and a good choice. I also agree with you that lvl doesnt reflect player skill with a char and that it is wrong to think that all people who used hypers dont got skill. The only thing i would like to see is that people who choose to not hop on the train wont get rolled because they will certainly need more time to end up with the same gear when farmed by themself ...

greetz harm0wnie

i remember when i use to think that it's best to level the "old way". then i gave my level 60 BM to my 10 year old nephew and saw him playing it decently without hardly any help from me outside me explaining things and mag and physical mobs and buffs and the skills that stun mobs.

why should everyone give a damn about how someone levels? rather than QQ about it when you run into fail players you should do the MATURE thing and enlighten them in to how to play. if every one did this as opposed to b****in' in the forums, i'm pretty sure we'd have a hell of a lot less fail players. instead when people run into these fail players they LOL, faceplam, and rage at them, never really explaining WHY they (the "pro") is doing it, and if they do, they do so in a very immature harsh manner. needless to say the "fail" player wouldn't take the words of a retardedly harsh player very seriously.

if a player gets bored when he/she ets to end game that's their problem not ours let them leave if they are so bored. some people simply don't have the drive to level the "old way". we are playing this game for our own personal pleasure not for others, if people get their kicks out of leveling fast, let them have their kicks and keep coughing up their money so the rest of us can continue to play the game for free.


and i personally know several brand new players who power leveld to end game but still find it exciting

i'll admit that sometimes it's a pain in the *** to find squads however, how do you even know it's due to power leveling in FC? i know for a fact that there are countless players out there that simply don't do random squads. they have a nice friends list and can get a party up and running in moments.

me personally, i use random squads and even before hypers came about i always had problems finding squads. so since this problems was always present (to me at least) i don't see what p leveling has to do with this.


"Plvling is the way you should play an MMO?!?"

i wasn't aware that there was a "right" way to play a mmo. i always assumed you do what the hell you want for kicks. you know, so you can keep yourself entertained? *read previous post*

all mmos have changes. it's actually easier for new player to deal with them because they simply never played the game before the changes were made, unlike the older guys who had a sudden change and now have to adapt.


"And newbies who are interested in the game will leave because this is not how you play an MMO."

how do you know newbies will leave cos of this? and who dictates how you play a mmo? if i want a AA barb then i shall make one, if i want to use nothing but DOT attacks even tho they suck then that is how i will play. again you are basing this statement purely on assumptions. in addion to that, you making it sound much MUCH more serious than it actually is. think about it, how many newbies would actually quit because of the power leveling? Power leveling isn't affecting their low level gameplay in any wway, it's not like PWE is pointing a gun to their heads and demanding them to power level. lower level BH squad can be very hard to find, yes. but from level 1-60 it's possible to level without BHs just from CS and normal quests.

I gotta agree people have been power leveling since the expansion came out and I noticed it's alot harder to find pt for BH.. it just sucks for people like me who aren't willing to pay for power leveling, it's lame and for lazy noobs. And I can't play for many hours a day cuz of school, sometimes I can't even do my BH a day because there are no pts. I'm not in hurry to level but would be good if I could at least do my BH like a few months ago when I shouted once and found a pt in Arch.

Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That's plain ignorance. There will always be idiots that can't seem to grasp the basics of a game, whether it be this one or any other, but to place everyone who hypers in the same bracket is ignorant in itself.

I'm not gonna lie, I power leveled my Seeker to 9x in a couple of weeks, but I've been praised numerous times by my BH and FF squads for a job well done. Am I a hyper noob? I, personally, don't think so, and neither do my friends. As I stated in my first post, it all comes down to how much time someone dedicates to the game.

Edit: Also, T wasn't removed from the dictionary. My IGN is 5 letters.

you use the term 'ignorant' in the wrong way. fyi. and no i'm not saying you're a hyper nub. obviously you have spent time reading going over and using your skills in game. how that isn't what neither me nor lunar were stating.

we were saying people that come into game and do this without getting to know anything about the game the classes or squading should take the time to do so and stop being hyper nubs.

i've been with PW well over two years now i can fully play any class and like you said it doesn't take a genius to do. but in the end all it takes is that one hyper nub in a squad that lazy 'i can pay my way' person that doesn't know what to do to ruin a perfectly good team.

oh and no 'T' wasn't removed it was a simple misspelling. lose the smartass attitude and ego when you speak to people kid and maybe you won't be considered a joke.

unless hypers and oricales are takin out, Pleveling won't stop. you are really misinformed. sure they can close off FC but then players will just go somewhere else to P level, cos lets face it, 12x exp basically makes even normal grinding power leveling. so imagine if zhen squads formed on the PQ mobs. not sure if it's practical or not (it may take too long to kill off the mobs).


hell even regular mobs can be used, especially if a wiz comes into play (they don't need to be that high level for their zhen skill). people are not looking at the root of the power leveling, which is the items that make Pleveling possible. if you can kill off hordes of mobs near your level quickly, you can get massive exp even from normal mobs. and we all know that PWE will never take out the exp items. so asking for FC restriction is a meaningless endeavor.


as for the quiltiy of players decreasing due to power leveling. i agree with what Letmeblossom, Outlaw_Arch and Evict say. no matter what you'll always find fail players. how they level has noting to do with it. as stated above, for all we know, only a small minority of o levelrs may actually be fail. it's like saying all good players don't power level and all power levelers are bad players.

i myself am a power leveler got my BM to level 60+ in one day. stopped cos i no longer have the time to play. i power leveled right off the back cos quite frankly, i've played mmos for years and from what i know, it's not a rocket science. even without looking at any guides i quickly saw what skills are not worth leveling. now i have time to play again, i enter the game and if mention i power leveled in a party i'm immediately called fail and loled at. the funny thing is this, the *******s who did that ended up getting wiped while i the FAIL player lived. while they, the great non plevelrs were running around letting the cerlic die (who somehow aggroed mobs) I was the one that saved her. me the player who has no special gear or charms. when i pointed that out they kicked me from the party. this has happened to me on 3 occasions. if i quit for anything involving problems in the game itself, it would be due to the **** attitude some people have.


i personally find you arrogant for speaking on my behalf as tho you know if i'll get bored due to power leveling or not. or say i'll quit because i can't find a party for BHs. i can't speak for all power levelers, but for ME MMOs are more than just hitting the level cap. the last mmo i played i hit the level cap and still continued played that one character for years. it's the social aspect i play MMOs for not the leveling. so i can level to 105 in one minute for all i care i know i'll still be here for years to come because i have friends here. we all play the game for our own reasons there is no reason for you to understand them. quite frankly, it's not really any of your business.

Most MMOs have some sort of power level system. Was only a matter of time before we got one in PWI.

Oracles was of course also used to powerlevel before FCC, but that was really expensive and only a few people could afford it. In a way FCC is more fair, since you dont really have to cash shop to afford hypers. You can even afford buying a few exp rooms a day without charging gold.

But i still think Frost should have at least a 7X cap to enter, kinda kills of the game a bit when everyone between level 30-100 is inside the same type of instance. You surely wont keep new players interested in PWI when they cant find anyone to talks with, no one to party for BHs, quests and stuff.