Question for PWE

Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »

said the pot to the kettle

*looks at level*

*double checks first forum log on date*

I'm pretty sure you're accusing the wrong person of something.

rsin wrote: »

oh noes, being 1 shotted by mobs lower than my level.
oh noes, stealing aggro from my pet and having to run from multi-mobs, hoping the pet gets aggro back (which is never the case).

My arcane veno's Magmite can hold aggro against straight up nuking, and when it does lose aggro due to a crit, gets it back very quickly.

You don't need a herc to not have high repair bills or have to constantly upgrade your gear. Giving your pet two damage dealing aggro skills and keeping them upgraded is often enough for them to hold aggro.

Kalza - Sanctuary wrote: »

hmmm...cookies anyone?

Did you have a good sleep?

Sorry to hear that

Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why should that stop casting after the primary target is killed?, the skill is designed for fighting multiple mobs.

Why is flesh ream even allowed in TW? would it be so hard to code it so it's disabled in TW?

AFAIK, Dragonbreath wasn't the skill in question since it has no target; the skill in question is Barrage of Arrows which, unless I'm completely wrong, is triggered during a duel with another player in the party, and the duel is ended, but the skill continues because the other player isn't dead.


They allow Flesh Ream in TW because it's the PvP pet skill for venomancers.

Even though it unbalances PvP?

Also IceJazmin did not distinguish, she said that the only way to zhen was by using a bugged skill.

Play a wizard to lvl29 please, Dragon's Breath does require a target to cast.

Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »

Play a wizard to lvl29 please, Dragon's Breath does require a target to cast.

I would but I'm busy leveling a wizard, and I was going off of how the skill reads on Ecatomb which is the same as the skill reads on the skill tree sans damage numbers and how long it lasts.

The power of the Fire God surrounds your body in a blazing vortex.
All enemies 12 meters around you suffer constant Fire damage.
Consumes 120 Mana every 3 seconds, inflicting Fire damage
equal to base magic damage plus 1225.4. Casting will not stop
until Mana is depleted or the spell is cancelled.

I don't see the word target in there anywhere.

Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yeah I get that, just defending my class from the accusation.

Also OMG, Flesh ream doesn't require two sparks, and a huge chunk of hp/mp to just cast, also barbarians accuracy is very low meaning this skill can miss a lot.

I believe accuracy powder gives something like +500% (I think) accuracy, and then there are accuracy shards, and accuracy rings (don't believe they stack with the powder though). Barbarians can be quite accurate if they need to be.

Did someone say Blood Bath?

Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »

For the plus 500% accuracy powder you'd need to be in a faction owning arch/1k streams I think, so not really fair. From what I've seen from barbs that skill has it's own builds, I think a barb on our server crit/zerk/arma'd someone for 40k, but that requires a hell of a lotta luck.

If a barb sharded for more accuracy they'd end up with lower hp/mp, meaning less damage. Also the two sparks requirement means they are very vulnerable afterwards(especially if they used accuracy pots).

Also accuracy rings(Misty Forest rings, +50% accuracy), go for roughly....10mil? on our server at least. Remember barbs also get 100k repair bills regularly.

No, your best off sharding for Accuracy on a Barbarian because of the low dex and that will actually increase the chance of the skill hitting which is more important. Further, any accuracy gems will be amplified by any skill that increases that by a %.

How much they cost is irrelevant to the fact that they can be used by a barbarian to increase their accuracy.

Still, the barb has to build towards that, which isn't cheap. Barbs aren't exactly the money making class(unless they find a non-stupid TT squad that realises his repair costs and the items he used/risks he has to take).

Saying cost is irrelevant isn't fair,

For example, someone could pay into the game a huge amount of money(over $10k), sell the gold through AH, then proceed to buy mats to make warsouls. This makes the person overpowered.

Yes I realise that you could argue the Venomancer is doing something similar to this to buy a nix. The whole, you could refine your gear and then tank fleshream like it was nothing arguement doesn't hold water(it might if the refining transfer system was implemented), due to the nix leveling and becoming more powerful with the veno.

The alternative is a cash shop item for other classes, this degrades the game into a wallet contest in which players without the means to obtain them become obselete in squads.

No one complains about this in PvE because it doesn't really effect it much, I love the herc but it does have it's disadvantages(mainly terrible damage output). So does the nix(low hp). If anything Herc's are beneficial to all classes, TT60 items are very cheap now making them obtainable for all players.

The real solution here is to fix the flesh ream bug. If the venomancer begins to cry and whine once it's gone it's obvious that they are of no real PvP value and should L2P.

EDIT: @Tear, that also bugs me, that skill looks like it should be class specific to not allow it on barbarians.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Oh, I see, it's ok for every other class to whine and cry, and then state that "L2P" doesn't apply to them, but they then get to turn around and claim that if class X starts to do so it's a case of L2P


Hypocrisy at it's best. <.<

Ofcourse its ok, Its his class. The problem is they are no longer able to go around pwning everyone that they used too and now have to use there brains if they want to win.

Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »

Not hypocrisy, when did I say anything hypocritical?

I was saying if veno's start crying once a BUG has been removed from a pet skill, then they need to learn to play their class.

What if someone tells you that instead of crying and complaining about the lack of DR on Flesh Ream that you should instead L2P?