New skill & new pets-upgrades discussion

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  • BungaSakura - Raging Tide
    BungaSakura - Raging Tide Posts: 902 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I don't know it. Go to google tradutor. I don't know put the link translated.

    i did it before, and it says pw (im sure in china) will be launch that pet skills on 12 december. but idk when it will be launch in here.
  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Oooookay, I went and shoved the chinese page at like three different translatours and ended up using Firefox's translatour addon; which shows up in a grey box that is longer than my computer screen so I had to collage it all together as an image--so for those of you who want it(the english is choppy since it's from chinese), here's that translation: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2046/translationy.png

    This page doesn't appear to say anything about the pets, though. >:
    The report thing(3) made me laugh xD Whut GMs...
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    My guess is that they get the new skills (forms) now and maybe the pet upgrades later. Dammit, why do they keep delaying it?? There's so many things I'm curious about >.<

    And I think Manray gave a good and in-depth explanation regarding the legendary pet upgrade and the rest of the pets.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    b:cute Thanks desdi, I do try.

    b:shutup I do have my bad days.
  • kisgyengusz
    kisgyengusz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    looks like we have to wait at least 1 more week b:cry
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yeah, I'm dying of curiosity here. The update will either be good or disappointing but it's been a long time since I've actually been this excited about updates in PWI up to this scale.
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  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yeah, I'm dying of curiosity here. The update will either be good or disappointing but it's been a long time since I've actually been this excited about updates in PWI up to this scale.

    The chineses are diferent from us, then they will do a topic with more information. Look for this:

    http://w2i.17173.com/content/2012-12-12/20121212095224435.shtml
    http://bbs.17173.com/thread/171/391/20121206/50c00e2350981cc13-1.html

    Butterfly plume form bas the same icon of fox form. And the skill are level 100, when you are level 100 go to any elder and got the tasks. When you finish the tasks you will receive a skill book, but you can get the skill book from the gshop without the task. I understand this.
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    looks like we have to wait at least 1 more week b:cry

    No, that will probably come here on febreary, by the end. That new transformation for veno was implemted on a test server, according to what my friend said. And wanmei did say that the update would come to China by the end of the year.
  • _PuRe__EviL_ - Archosaur
    _PuRe__EviL_ - Archosaur Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    b:pleased OMG! That's so so so awesome! They'r finnaly doing something to make Venos cooler b:victory Now i just can't wait for the upgrade mm.. *^* and if my Herc is going to look like that.. <.< yay. b:cute Imma be a butterfly! ~ b:dirty
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  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    No, that will probably come here on febreary, by the end. That new transformation for veno was implemted on a test server, according to what my friend said. And wanmei did say that the update would come to China by the end of the year.

    According of new informations published yesterday and today, the update was implemented today a few hours ago, but only the new transformation and the news skill were implemented, the pets no.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yeah looks like it. I still wonder why they keep delaying the pet patch so much though...are they still testing it?
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yeah looks like it. I still wonder why they keep delaying the pet patch so much though...are they still testing it?

    I heard that was for the 24th so they are not late, but I can't wait to see that. =)
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  • Tigress_eye - Sanctuary
    Tigress_eye - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm eager to find out what the skills are for the upgraded legendary pets b:surprised And 6 skill slots? b:pleased That's wonderful. I really hope it turns out that way
  • Pelli - Dreamweaver
    Pelli - Dreamweaver Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm eager to find out what the skills are for the upgraded legendary pets b:surprised And 6 skill slots? b:pleased That's wonderful. I really hope it turns out that way

    I want me new goodies! It's been forever since venos got anything in comparison to other classes. Give us our old glory back, PW! b:cry
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  • _PuRe__EviL_ - Archosaur
    _PuRe__EviL_ - Archosaur Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I want me new goodies! It's been forever since venos got anything in comparison to other classes. Give us our old glory back, PW! b:cry

    b:surrender Ikr! It's time for Venos to get something that is actually Cool! b:cool
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  • Nariin - Dreamweaver
    Nariin - Dreamweaver Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    What Vitenka said. Legendary pets used to be only for the "rich people" and the rest of us Venomancers had fun playing with and discovering/discussing/comparing various pets.
    Then the discrimination occurred (legendary pet or gtfo) and then perfect chests were released and now everyone and their dog has a legendary pet or both.

    I'm not against the legendary pets mind you, but I'd love to see the pet system revived and make other pets more useful too. Sure, upgrade the legendary pets and make them better but give a boost to the old pets too!

    I don't think the original developers of the game intended to turn the pet system like this, with legendary pets (add the dino in it too) being on top and the rest of the pets being practically useless now. Look at all those tameable pets out there :(

    Agreed with that :/

    I like venos for the ability to choose pets most, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Regardless, I'll just let my veno still use cute over strong cought pets b:cute

    Wish they would fix graphis gliches of cought pets though <.<
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  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I know, right... there's been something said before about the 'rendering of a pet taking up graphics' stuffs, but, well... what about the spots where there's about 500 of the things running around on the map with perfect rendering Dx!

    Also this link http://imgur.com/a/LB2Gx was posted on this thread earlier asking about what we're discussing here, but there's two new pictures on the page they linked to we haven't seen yet on this board, so putting it here~
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    That fox form is damn beautiful. That's all I have to say XD
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  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Very pretty; a little on the "I have no idea where its organs are" side, but very pretty x3
    So that it's all in one post, here's all the images/links that we have on the venothings so far:

    http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2089073&page=4&authorid=1544737 -two panda pictures and an above rendering of the fox forme
    http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2089073&extra=&page=1 -the original screenshots that are at the beginning of the thread
    http://imgur.com/a/LB2Gx -link with two new pictures along with the pictures in above link
    http://bbs.17173.com/thread/171/391/20121206/50c00e2350981cc13-1.html -screenies of the skill information
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/...11/68679.shtml -wanmei's news post on the expansion made on the 12th and translation in image forme
    http://www.pwbrchannel.com/2012/11/novas-transformacoes-para-os-selvagens.html -Portugese page on the update
    -eum did I miss anything o.o;?
    "Clearly, the only logical option is Squid." -Decus <コ:彡 <コ:彡
    I'm helplessly needless, and needless to say I owe you | Well I'd pull, teeter away, at the earth with my teeth, to touch your face alive | You lie, helplessly still | As your face falls apart | Well I can make your face brand new | Come take my hand and I'll take your hand | And I will pull you out | Into the sun.
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  • Quizeburio - Raging Tide
    Quizeburio - Raging Tide Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Exciting I can't wait to here more.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Very pretty; a little on the "I have no idea where its organs are" side, but very pretty x3
    So that it's all in one post, here's all the images/links that we have on the venothings so far:

    http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2089073&page=4&authorid=1544737 -two panda pictures and an above rendering of the fox forme
    http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2089073&extra=&page=1 -the original screenshots that are at the beginning of the thread
    http://imgur.com/a/LB2Gx -link with two new pictures along with the pictures in above link
    http://bbs.17173.com/thread/171/391/20121206/50c00e2350981cc13-1.html -screenies of the skill information
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/...11/68679.shtml -wanmei's news post on the expansion made on the 12th and translation in image forme
    http://www.pwbrchannel.com/2012/11/novas-transformacoes-para-os-selvagens.html -Portugese page on the update
    -eum did I miss anything o.o;?


    That's pretty much all there is at the moment. Thanks for compiling them to a list, easier to find b:chuckle
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  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    That's pretty much all there is at the moment. Thanks for compiling them to a list, easier to find b:chuckle

    D'aw you're welcome, Desdi :3
    I was noticing alot of going back and forth between two or three pages to look at stuff, so~ x3
    "Clearly, the only logical option is Squid." -Decus <コ:彡 <コ:彡
    I'm helplessly needless, and needless to say I owe you | Well I'd pull, teeter away, at the earth with my teeth, to touch your face alive | You lie, helplessly still | As your face falls apart | Well I can make your face brand new | Come take my hand and I'll take your hand | And I will pull you out | Into the sun.
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  • Pelli - Dreamweaver
    Pelli - Dreamweaver Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm already in love with that new veno form... Give it to us, Wanmei! D:
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  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Look for this: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2113678&extra=page%3D1

    I could not translate and understand everything, so:

    1 - Harpy is changed the name to "Kunpeng"
    2 - Monkey King changed the name for "God Monkey WuKong"
    3 - Kunpeng and God Monkey WuKong" both are upgrades of phoenix.
    4 - The veno will get 2 new pet skills
    5 - There is something about the soulforce will interfer in something of the pet.

    This was what I understand.

    There are another link: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2115230&extra=page%3D1

    This page have some balancing skills of some classes. For the venos (goblins), There are 2 news skills for the new form:

    1 - Is a buff that when you will receive a hit that will kill you, you don't die and recover 20% of the life. Lasts 15 seconds.

    2 - Is another buff that, when you are attacked by meelee attacks, the player will pushed 18m back.

    This was what i understand, i can be wrong, translate of chinese by google tradutor is terrible.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Look for this: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2113678&extra=page%3D1

    I could not translate and understand everything, so:

    1 - Harpy is changed the name to "Kunpeng"
    2 - Monkey King changed the name for "God Monkey WuKong"
    3 - Kunpeng and God Monkey King both are upgrades of phoneix.
    4 - The veno will get 2 new pet skills
    5 - There are something about the soulforce will interfer in something of the pet.

    This was what I understand.

    Apparently this could be bad news for the PvE oriented venos who farmed a herc only, as they wouldn't be getting an upgrade and would get stuck with butterball, althouhg I can't say I'm entiely displeased with this; For one it may mean that PvE soloing is not getting upgraded which is good in terms of overall balance, although it would pretty much mean pets would remain useless in vana as lack of ressilience is the fundamental problem in there. That the new two pets are both upgrades to the phoenix is probably Wanmei's way of ensuring that those already in the posession of both legendary pets would still have to go through the cash shop to get a third. We may not have been expecting this but it's hardly a surprise there was going to be a catch of sorts to the new pets. Now, what I would call amazing good news is two new pet skills and the soulforce bit as there is still some posibility ALL pets could benefit from this. Man, I'm so hoping you got figuring the translation right... Finally, I think what I've posted on Journey to the West stands, we hardly needed any confirmation the monkey king pet was based on Sun Wukong.

    The are another link: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2115230&extra=page%3D1

    This page have some balancing skill of some classes. Fo the venos (goblins), There are 2 news skills for the new form:

    1 - Is a buff that when you will receive a hit that will kill you, you don't die and recover 20% of the life. Last 15 seconds.

    2 - Is another buff that, when you ara attacked for meelee attacks, the player will pushed 18m back.

    This was what i understand, i can be wrong, translate of chinese by google tradutor is terrible.

    b:dirty Deaden Nerves and a (hopefully PvP enabled) distance skill! me likey.

    Thanks for the update man. b:thanks
  • Niriam - Dreamweaver
    Niriam - Dreamweaver Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    This is a stupid question tho... is it the upgrade pet is only herc and nix? WTH, while mystic dont have to level up their pet, dont have to buy from boutique the summon and they all getting all the benefit freely. and yet we still need to buy herc and nix to get the upgrade pet???? isnt stupid?????
    pet ≠ summon

    If it matters.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Look for this: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2113678&extra=page%3D1

    I could not translate and understand everything, so:

    1 - Harpy is changed the name to "Kunpeng"
    2 - Monkey King changed the name for "God Monkey WuKong"
    3 - Kunpeng and God Monkey WuKong" both are upgrades of phoenix. Well, that kinda sucks but does that mean the 3rd pet we saw is the Hercules upgrade then? Guess I really need to get a Phoenix now b:chuckle
    4 - The veno will get 2 new pet skills This is rather lovely but the question is, for all pets or just upgrades hmm.
    5 - There is something about the soulforce will interfer in something of the pet. This has the potential to revive the pet system a little. Sounds rather good to me o.o We'll have to see the actual changes and effects though.

    This was what I understand.

    There are another link: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2115230&extra=page%3D1

    This page have some balancing skills of some classes. For the venos (goblins), There are 2 news skills for the new form:

    1 - Is a buff that when you will receive a hit that will kill you, you don't die and recover 20% of the life. Lasts 15 seconds.

    2 - Is another buff that, when you are attacked by meelee attacks, the player will pushed 18m back. That would be rather nice in PvP. Kinda sad that most updates seem to be PvP oriented since I'm more of a PvE player but I don't mind. More power to Venomancers b:dirty

    This was what i understand, i can be wrong, translate of chinese by google tradutor is terrible.

    This patch needs to hurry up and get over here.
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  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited December 2012

    There are another link: http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=2115230&extra=page%3D1

    This page have some balancing skills of some classes. For the venos (goblins), There are 2 news skills for the new form:

    1 - Is a buff that when you will receive a hit that will kill you, you don't die and recover 20% of the life. Lasts 15 seconds.

    2 - Is another buff that, when you are attacked by meelee attacks, the player will pushed 18m back.

    This was what i understand, i can be wrong, translate of chinese by google tradutor is terrible.


    I asked my Chinese friend to translate that page and he said:

    1: Soul Transfusion would give a buff like deaden nerves that last 15 seconds after using.

    2: Bramble Hood would push back melee enemies by 18m.

    BUT

    This is a suggestion only. So, this means they are not actually doing this change b:surrender
  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I asked my Chinese friend to translate that page and he said:

    1: Soul Transfusion would give a buff like deaden nerves that last 15 seconds after using.

    2: Bramble Hood would push back melee enemies by 18m.

    BUT

    This is a suggestion only. So, this means they are not actually doing this change b:surrender

    Interesting.
    So i wanna to know more information about the soulforce and the pets. There is a part of the text, they say about the 8 pet's stats (HP, Atk, P.Def...) and the veno's soulforce. The god monkey wukong and kunpeng are two pets based in the soulforce, but the text mentions something about the petite sawfly can be improved with the soulforce. I think that all of the pets will be upgraded by the veno's soulforce, but the god monkey king and kunpeg will be impreoved more with the soulforce than other pets.
    Another part of the text about two new pet skills, but i don't know if are two skills for the pet, or skill for the veno interact with the pet like natural sinergy. The 2 skills are named: Spirit link series skills, and i think that the veno can share with her pet part of the damage suffered and vice versa, with this skill.

    If your friend could translate this, will be cool, because it's very confused for me that doesn't speak chinese and try understand by google tradutor.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I asked my Chinese friend to translate that page and he said:

    1: Soul Transfusion would give a buff like deaden nerves that last 15 seconds after using.

    2: Bramble Hood would push back melee enemies by 18m.

    BUT

    This is a suggestion only. So, this means they are not actually doing this change b:surrender

    Thanks for the heads up Azura, deaden nerves and a knockback would have been awesome indeed, and I was reading the two new pet skills as something on the lines of pet heal or tame beast... Shame really, as this was the first time I had seen something on the upgrades that could've potentially aplied to non legendary pets...