What is the reason ....

expertaudit

1. why PWI made COG bound
2. why PWI sell Perfect Stone
3.
4.
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fell free to complet the list

sjampie

The reason is simple: you didn't want to play on a private server lol.

obielle

For the things you mentioned, and probably also applies to many similar things you could add to the list, a lot of the time it's due to player abuse over in PWCN. I don't know specifics like how it occurs or to what extent, but they resolve it by seemingly nerfing the methods to obtaining certain items. This definitely happened with Mirage Celestones and even coin drops in instances such as Delta. Our version of the game basically receives any update that PWCN does, as they rarely go out of their way to modify the game for our version other than translation. So as a result, we also receive the nerfs even if our own playerbase isn't abusing those things.

johndoe#4146

Or they want to reduce the coin gap between farmers and non farmers so they bind some items and npc sell others so everyone has an equal opportunity to get the same items besides the cash option.

prancing

I for one like what they did with OHT and decomposition. Perfect stones are as cheap as they've ever been. And people who actually want to farm OHT bosses and OHT gears its much cheaper to do!

I'm not sure what or why they did with the cube of fate.

tideborn20090

The thing is there is virtually no reason to... chrono pages from card bosses are worthless with the aeu update an the drop rate is super low. They no longer drop mirages and the mats are completely worthless... short of someone being silly and thinking the channel is worth it....just about any gear is better.

valdisman

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eeepsilon

expertaudit wrote: »

1. why PWI made COG bound
2. why PWI sell Perfect Stone
3.
4.
....

x.
fell free to complet the list

There is more than 1 reason but to put it simple the more obvious ones are:

1) PW China VS chinese botters and abusers and the fact that PW China devs are too lazy to recode for us.
This person explain it very well:

obielle wrote: »

For the things you mentioned, and probably also applies to many similar things you could add to the list, a lot of the time it's due to player abuse over in PWCN. I don't know specifics like how it occurs or to what extent, but they resolve it by seemingly nerfing the methods to obtaining certain items. This definitely happened with Mirage Celestones and even coin drops in instances such as Delta. Our version of the game basically receives any update that PWCN does, as they rarely go out of their way to modify the game for our version other than translation. So as a result, we also receive the nerfs even if our own playerbase isn't abusing those things.

2) The second most obvious reason is to force people to cash shop.
If you think about it, aside from all the p2w elements that this game had since years ago. It is pretty obvious now that PWE is way more money hungry than before.
Considering that most of the people that farm stuff in pwi, do it to earn in game currency to help them gear progress. if the game put a barrier in those farming methods and make a certain material or certain gear that people sell obsolete or imposible to make profit with, those players will have to choose from:

A) Find another way to make coin in game, this could be a success or fail depending the person patience, gear and time among other factors.

B ) Put real money on the game and embrace Visa mode

C) Become casual and forget about upgrading their gear. This people usually reduce their in game time till they finally quit.

D) Inmediatly quit and never come back or come back months or years later as a one shot to rage quit again.

If we put some average non OP person as example. Lets say a g16 vana Wizard with +5 armor refines and +8 weapon, lets say this person is farming to get r9 and some refines + other end game stuff. Lets call this guy Jimmy for the sake of explaining.

Now lets say that Jimmy was farming TT + Warsong to make gear and then sell it on a catshop. Since TT drops a lot of OHT mats, this player was also saving those and also farming card bosses to make some extra millions with Perfect Stones. Since Jimmy was really dedicated to the game lets say he also was doing fsp on his only toon every day (remember, average g16 vana person who actually plays a lot, but for fun, not some overgeared no life dude with an army of alts).

Now a few months later PWCN/PWE decide to introduce keys and they put foils on those that give a lot of big notes? (sorry cant recall the number atm), this increase the price of gold making everything gold related more expensive. Jimmy boy freaks out when he see that gold is super expensive but he still feel that he can make enough coin by playing it smart, it will just take a bit longer.

Some time after that, Jimmy notice that now pwi is giving a lot of codes with free lvl 100 pills and free tt99 gear that can be turned to g15 and then to g16, this of course is abused by the guys that have 9999 accounts. If we add to that the fact that a lot of people now is r9s3 maxed and can steam roll TT and warsong, and sell gear in large numbers and for less coin, plus the fact that a lot of people who needed g16 vana gear already got it or is r9, all this make the whole TT and warsong farming useless for this guy.

But Jimmy boy is a really positive dude, so he still have fsp to farm and a lot of OHT mats.
Then later PWI bring a new Patch that kind of nerf FSP making it less profitable for Jimmy to farm it, remember that he is not OP and doesn't have 100 alts to abuse. Also since now PWE goes into full herp derp mode and decide to do key sales almost every month, gold price at 6-7 mil each is something normal. But hey as I said before Jimmy boy is a really positive guy, so he still believe that he can make it, after all FSP still gives some coins and there is still OHT to make those Perfect stones.

But PWI is not done with our hero, so they decide to put an npc that sell the red stones for a fixed amount of coins. By this time also pretty much all the old farming instances are useless, the new fad now is UP/DUP/DDH/JDH. Jimmy boy tries several times to join some of those squads on wc, but he gets ignored, afterll who wants some cookie cutter g16 bad refined DD, r9 or GTFO, remember: "LFM DUP, Need cleric, veno, Seeker and Strong DD, PM WEAPON for inv, No reply means u sux LELELELE"
But after all that, Jimmy still refuse to give up, he is really stupid stubborn after all, he still can sell those red stones for less than what the npc sells for and make a small profit.....
And then PWE decide to completly remove the red stones from the equation, so Jimmy now have a toon of garbage useless mats that can not even turn into stones now...

But then one day, when Jimmy is about to rage quit, His friend Eddy who is really Smart ask him: "--Why are you raging so much Jimmy? why so sad?"
Jimmy replies on full caps: "--THIS GAME, I CANT MAKE ANY COIN ANYMORE, EVERYTHING IS EXPENSIVE, LIFE SUCKS QQ"
So Eddy replies back at him: "--But Jimmy, Jimmy boy, dont be idiot.... Why waste time in useless farming when you can charge USD50 every week/month/whatever and make 300 - 350 mil coin just by selling gold...?"
"--Or you can buy a few hundreds/thousands of keys with that and become billionare"
"Come join the Visa side of the force now my friend "

Now, now, I know this story may sound a bit too much, but the point is that if a player lose almost every way of making money in game, the most logic step will be to use their wallet, unless they give up and quit..
And also believe it or not the person on the history actually do exist in game, of course his name is not Jimmy, since is against the rules to name and shame people.

yoyohoho

eeepsilon is completely right, if you give up and charge, they get exactly what they were hoping for, if you give up and quit they couldn't care less because they don't want non-charging players anyway! simples!

kittythecat2013

I agree with eeepsilon and yoyohoho.
Just to be clear. There is no way to farm in game anymore.
Nothing you can do is cheaper than using cash.
PWE forced its way into the game market.
There is literally nothing you can do in game that gives more coins than cash.
We used to run TT runs and get something above 10m on average that was like $2.5 per hour and it was still ok to farm having fun.
But now they killed the price of everything without deflating the value of coin so you see things like, 2 hours of NW to get 6m worth of tokens or run DDH once a day with 10% chance to get one lv 4 glyph or zenith in DUP. its nothing if u trying to get G17, its nothing compared to how low the chances are to get them.
Its nothing compared to a minimum wage job at U$16 (88m) per hour.
There is nothing you can farm on auto-culti that will pay off the price of electricity for having the computer on.

The maximum you can do is work in game and waste many hours doing all you can plus some merchandising.
EU to sell books, UP and DDH to a chance for mats to sell, FW to sell badges, FSP to level cards or charts then sell the coins and NW.
Even if u get all done fast you need at least 4 hours a day of work and maybe u get anything between 2m in bh to 15m on a 10% chance glyph or zenith skull shard not counting luck on trades.
So farming is really the same as signing stupid on your own forehead.
They want real money and make sure you feel stupid for wasting hours trying in game when you could be leveling your own character in real life and becoming good at something.

gannofdreams

kittythecat2013 wrote: »

They want real money and make sure you feel stupid for wasting hours

So you are feeling stupid for playing something you don't want to play.
Well, it is pretty stupid to do so.

You don't have to play this game, it's as simple as that. Stop tormenting yourself.

If you like the PvP aspect of this game so much, well - private servers.