It's time to stop...

nbreaking
nbreaking Posts: 607 Arc User
edited July 2017 in General Discussion
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Stop it <.<
@kalystconquerer#0876 You guys are just being greedy and ruining the economy, is this your plan to shut down this game or...?

Take a look at your game, look at the promos you're pushing on us, they're **** and they're dragging everything down, slow it down.
You might be confused at this point, let me clarify what I mean.

The spend promo.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/pwi/news/detail/10583844-war-avatar-blast-spend-promo

No +11 orb, no +12 orb, +10 orbs used to be 25 gold spent, then 50, 75, 100, 110, 150, now 200?
"B...b... but you get several items per tier D:" you'll say. It doesn't justify it, just no... Specially when you can't even get gold atm.

Also, by forcing so many spend promos so fast, you legit killed the gold market, thanks for that too, it's now "Cash or GTFO because you're not getting gold", add that to the fact now ppl can buy almost 250 gold in each bidding and you got a recipe for disaster.
Add to that the fact EVERY single week we are getting AMAZING sales, either it be r9, packs, keys, etc and the gold is just not dropping.

Gold in Tideswell atm is going for 7M in WC... It's at cap at 3.999.900 in the AH and there's 5000+ gold in there, it's IMPOSSIBLE to get gold (I've tried 4 times now, always gets returned) to even do these spend promos.

Stop with the spend rewards for a while or limit the max gold you can buy back to 50, do more charge promos, this is becoming madness.
This has been going for 2 months now, ever since the first key sale.

Quick Edit: Just checked other servers, in case you come and say "Well, this is a problem with Tideswell".
All servers have gold at cap price, with the following numbers as i made this post:
Twilight Temple: 6370
Etherblade: 5697
Tideswell: 5031
Dawnglory: 7462

Jesus Dawnglory, you're always struggling to be 1st on everything, even on this D:
Also, don't come with the "but China" excuse, starting to sound like Trump with "China China China".

Sincerely,
A frustrated player.



Mr. Justice

Comments

  • dblazen1
    dblazen1 Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    >Asking a company to stop making money
    Lol.

    To be fair, these charge promos have been happening frequently for a long time now, so there's nothing new about that.
    What I don't understand is why people keep spending so much money on seemingly packs, specially when most of those big spenders already have what they need.​​
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  • beast21g
    beast21g Posts: 631 Arc User
    You can say that's slavery for farmers, whipping them asking more and more coins for 1 gold
  • nbreaking
    nbreaking Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    dblazen1 wrote: »
    >Asking a company to stop making money
    Lol.

    To be fair, these charge promos have been happening frequently for a long time now, so there's nothing new about that.
    What I don't understand is why people keep spending so much money on seemingly packs, specially when most of those big spenders already have what they need.​​

    Well, technically no, not sure if they're making more money this way, what i'm sure is that ppl who do want gold have to charge now.
    I suggested more Charge promos, they make a lot of money on those, but I can't really say which way makes more money.

    Either way, they won't be making money at all if everyone gets fed up and leaves though ^^

    Oh and about the packs, meh, I don't get it either but I think it's kinda how rich people go to casinos, it's just for the "thrill" i guess, I don't know, my dad never gave me a small loan of 1M dollars :c



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  • fatalize#3824
    fatalize#3824 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    Not to sound rude but you could always do jollies if you're hurting THAT much for coin for gold. They do have a system for that. You really shouldn't be mad at Kalyst, you should be mad at the greedy csers who bump prices up. Gold in Etherblade has went down from 6.5m to 4.5-5m in wc. Nobody sells in AH anymore. Lmao. Kalyst is only the messenger, not the person actually in charge of pwi. We all tend to forget about that tidbit. :)
  • malllliii
    malllliii Posts: 137 Arc User
    Cuts me deep when i thought something would cost for example 4bil and cause of gold prices cost me 1bil more :(.
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  • shopcheese
    shopcheese Posts: 758 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    I would also like to see more focus on charge promo and less spend promos, for the sake of getting gold via AH. Though it would also be nice if they could decrease coin cap back to 200m in AH for bidding.
  • kokoot
    kokoot Posts: 55 Arc User
    The only issue is that you can place order for 250 gold. Not Manny ppl sending gold so your orders will almost always expire after 4 days. If keys are on sale gold costs 7m. Day after the sale gold is back to 4m. Just dont buy it on key sale.
  • nbreaking
    nbreaking Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    Not to sound rude but you could always do jollies if you're hurting THAT much for coin for gold. They do have a system for that. You really shouldn't be mad at Kalyst, you should be mad at the greedy csers who bump prices up. Gold in Etherblade has went down from 6.5m to 4.5-5m in wc. Nobody sells in AH anymore. Lmao.

    I am not hurting for coins at all, but I want to buy gold for my account so I can do spend rewards later and that means I need to buy gold from the Auction House and not from World chat, this spend rewards is not worth it, but there will be one that is worth it.
    Thing is, like me, others want the same, that's the problem, too many spend rewards make ppl want gold a lot more, making it impossible to buy. Before though, you could only buy 49 gold at a time, which made the line a lot shorter and gold was "divided" amongst everyone, sure, sometimes your bid would expire, but it was rare. Now you can't get 50, can't get 200, can't get 1, the line is just way too long and you have to be extremely lucky to get any gold.

    I currently don't need anything from the cash shop, and what I do need (Autopot and stuff) I get by doing Arc Quests.
    I want gold for the next spend rewards, that was all, but neither me or the other players can get any due to the abundance of good sales and spend promos.

    In short, it's a problem started by PWE and magnified by f2p players putting too many bids and p2p players not selling their gold in the AH since they can get almost TWICE more from WC.

    If there's **** promos and charge rewards just for like 2 weeks, this problem will die down quickly since the people with coins will no longer buy gold in WC for 7M (there's nothing good to buy, so, no point) and the people with gold will charge more (due to charge rewards) and be forced to sell it in the AH (because nobody else is buying their gold)



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  • jsxshadow
    jsxshadow Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    Yap, Charge rewards should be ALOT better than spend rewards but mostly it's quite the other way around. Getting a JOSD for 250 gold charged...I mean...it's just pixels. Make everything bound, put deity/josd/12* at 50 CP in a charge promo and watch them earn the money of their lives.

    PWE should start make Charging worthwhile, the current pricing is insane.

    Make it worth my while and I insta-drop 1k into it, immediately. Thing is, if I'd drop 1k in now I wouldn't really feel like investing it wisely. 1000 bucks is a load of money but what would you realistically get for that amount of money? One would expect (when looking at competitors meanwhile) that with 1k bucks you'd get everything you want on a silver platter. In PWI..I maybe get full r9 and can refine my weapon to +12 and add some shards if I use spend/charge rewards at the same time. That's ridiculous. That's nothing, really. If you could get 1 josd or 12* per 50 CP you could actually end up having enough +12 orbs for full +12 (if you also get the 11* by buying them from the boutique (yeah you gotta be smart about it) or you would end up with full shards for your gear. That is something that would really make it worth your while.

    It's still just pixel and the effective cost PWE has to provide these are more or less not existant, hence they shouldn't be too strict about it.

    In general, PWE is not very smart when it comes to sales/promotions. Why not give people items that are valuable, yes, but only unleash their full potential when you use other items beforehand (like 12* orbs. If you don't even have +12, why does it hurt to give out a free +12 now and then? Most ppl are full +12 anyways and lower geared ppl might take the incentive to charge for a 10* or 11* orb to use it fully). Something like that. That would be smart.

    Give more for less and thus increase the quantity of people charging. If people are more likely to charge and more coin sinks are implemented then this alone will balance out the economy quite a bit. Just saying.
  • scruncy
    scruncy Posts: 458 Arc User
    PWE is acting like a typical drug user.
    They have a high when there is a crazy sale and charge promo. After that the charging drops to zero.
    Now the want that high again, so they make the next crazy sale. A vicious cycle starts.

    PWE has to understand as long there is to much coins on the server and the coins are more and more worthless they will never break out of this cycle and have a continuously good charging.
    Take me for example.I used to charge here and then.Then I stopped few years ago. Why? Because coins are pilling up and up and I am able to buy everything with coins. Why charge? With those crazy pack sales, pack items dropped in price so bad, I can buy everything I want and coins still pile up.
    CREATE A REAL COIN SINK, suggestions are made in the other coin thread, drain out all those trillions of coins sitting in people's inventary's and you will see how the economy will become better in everything.
  • phantomforce#4598
    phantomforce#4598 Posts: 397 Community Moderator
    Going to close this one, since we already have an ongoing discussion regarding the game economy.
    http://forum.arcgames.com/pwi/discussion/1207449/too-many-coins-on-servers​​
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