G17 gears?

blazerboy

Does anyone by any chance have links to the rumored g17 rings and robes we might be getting. If so could you provide some sort of link so I can see all the stats? I want to experiment with some ideas and wanted to see if these would be worth it for myself. Btw Happy New Years \o/

tek1nig

The g17 gears upgrade from our current content - all crowns and guild base helms can be upgraded into a new G17 mega helm same with wings of ascension same with NW rings. The link is found in the PWC Expansion thread here:

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/pwi#/discussion/1206105/nov-11th-new-expansion-in-pwcn/p1

maksim1995

tek1nig wrote: »

The g17 gears upgrade from our current content - all crowns and guild base helms can be upgraded into a new G17 mega helm same with wings of ascension same with NW rings.

Only Crown of Madness can be upgraded to Crown of Armageddon (pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/42402) *it's still G16 item, not G17 btw*, because you will lose WoA + CoM set bonus with new G17 cape, which comes as solo item. Wings of Ascension can be upgraded into G17 cape, yes, but it won't be last (final) cast of that item.

Talking about G17 rings, CN only has an option to upgrade it from Cloud Stir/Sky Cover into lower grade of G17 ring or Reawakening VI Finger Bead into higher grade of G17 ring. Let's see if PWE will make it possible to craft them from Star's Destiny/Moon's Embrace (NW) rings, because CN doesn't have those two.

blazerboy

@maksim1995 when you say "it won't be last cast of that item" do you mean there are tiers of g17 capes? So much for chienkuning gem and refines . Regarding ring ATM finger beads cheap so I'll go for that

maksim1995

blazerboy wrote: »

@maksim1995 when you say "it won't be last cast of that item" do you mean there are tiers of g17 capes? So much for chienkuning gem and refines . Regarding ring ATM finger beads cheap so I'll go for that

Yup, there will be tears of new gear like it is now with G17 Weapon. Tbh, idk about amount of chiekun stones required. I own a Star's Destiny on my storm, so I really hope they will make that possible to upgrade it, if not.. GG, gonna need two Finger Beads, since a last cast of G17 Ring is better than r9's (NW) version. Also, it will probably give both (phy and mag) defense when refined, because it has both (phy and mag) att.

G17 last cast Phy. ring.


Physical attack + 230
Gives only Phy. def when refined

Critical Chance 3% - 5%
Accuracy 60% - 70%
Vit + 9 - 16
Atk lvl + 4 - 8
Def lvl + 4 - 8
Spirit + 20 - 40
Physical Penetration + 200 - 400

G17 last cast Mag. ring.


Magic attack + 230
Gives only Mag. def when refined

Critical Chance 3% - 5%
Channeling Reduced by 8% - 10%
Vit + 9 - 16
Atk lvl + 4 - 8
Def lvl + 4 - 8
Spirit + 20 - 40
Magic Penetration + 200 - 400


G17 last cast ring.


Physical attack + 260
Magic attack + 260
Probably gives both (phy and mag defense) when refined

Critical Chance 3% - 5%
Accuracy 60% - 70%
Channeling Reduced by 8% - 10%
Vit + 9 - 16
Atk lvl + 4 - 8
Def lvl + 4 - 8
Spirit + 30 - 50
Physical Penetration + 200 - 400
Magic Penetration + 200 - 400

Source:

maksim1995

@blazerboy

G17 last cast Heavy Cape.


Evasion +1000

Str + 12 - 18
Vit + 12 - 18
Mag. Res + 400 - 800
Atk lvl + 4 - 8
Def lvl + 4 - 8
Maximum HP +5%
Spirit + 60 - 120

G17 last cast Light Cape.


Evasion +1000

Dex + 12 - 18
Vit + 12 - 18
Phy. Res + 275 - 550
Mag. Res + 275 - 550
Atk lvl + 4 - 8
Def lvl + 4 - 8
Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds
Spirit + 60 - 120

G17 last cast Arcane Cape.


Evasion +1000

Mag + 12 - 18
Vit + 12 - 18
Phy Res. + 400 - 800
Atk lvl + 4 - 8
Def lvl + 4 - 8
Channelling -6%
Spirit + 60 - 120

Source:

blazerboy

@maksim1995 or ATLEAST make the transfer refine from one item to next cheaper I think just +10 is usually what 400? And +12 even more? GG pwi when China's is cheaper ._. The cape feels like a huge waste of time to go from our current WOA to a weak cape until build up to final g17. I mean if it was directly after than chienkuning gems such as +2/+3 gem is possible this sounds like definitely won't be. Dammit PW stop making endless grind for a losing investment. Ring having both mdef and pdef sounds really good for Light Armor classes who depend on both heavily

mooglemonger

I agree that those capes look nice at their final stage but now I'm thinking its not worth breaking the WoA/ CoM set bonus. Also too bad that the +1000 is evasion was really hoping that was hp

It would also depend on the amount of time required to farm.

maksim1995

mooglemonger wrote: »

I agree that those capes look nice at their final stage but now I'm thinking its not worth breaking the WoA/ CoM set bonus. Also too bad that the +1000 is evasion was really hoping that was hp.

It would also depend on the amount of time required to farm.

@mooglemonger Talking about set bonus, there are two options, you can win x-tw and get Crest of Dominator or get Crown of Madness and upgrade it into Crown of Armageddon with Arena reward coins.


http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/42402
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/48488

blazerboy

@maksim1995 my word... first turn WOA to g17 then 4 recast seriously???? So much for saving gem and refine

tek1nig

Non of them are huge upgrades it looks like but when combined together o.O .... I want them all at once but it seems its going to be an entirely new journey i'm not ready for until I finish getting devil stones @.@ ...

maksim1995

blazerboy wrote: »

@maksim1995 my word... first turn WOA to g17 then 4 recast seriously???? So much for saving gem and refine

@blazerboy Here we have two options as well You can farm G17 Cape from scratch, but it might take a lot longer, or upgrade your WoA to G17 Cape, you'll get 2/4 (2nd) or 3/4 (3rd) cast instead of 1st one in this way.

blazerboy

@tek1nig I agree but I'm afraid to do devil or serenity because why do I have a feeling g17 armor is next

asterelle

Checked out the recipes and they all have high chienkun costs by the time you reach the max stage except for the helm which has 0 chienkun. Feel free to shard your CoMs with Devil / Serenity.

I just used IDs for the mats. In general the upgrade cost structure looks pretty similar to the way you upgrade G17 weapons. Each stage is like twice the cost of the previous stage plus some of a higher grade mat.

Dominator Crest Helm -> CoM + 1500(#53423) + 0 chienkun cost

G17R3 Cape = Wings of Ascencion + 750 (#54944) + 200 (#54945) + 30 (#54946) + 0.1 chienkun cost
G17R4 Cape = G17R3 + 2000 (#54944) + 450 (#54945) + 80 (#54946) + 15 (#54947) + 0.2 chienkun cost
G17R5 Cape = G17R4 + 4500(#54944) + 675 (#54945) + 150 (#54946) + 25 (#54947) + 6 (#54948) + 0.3 chienkun cost
So total chienkun cost would be like 0.6... about 600 chienkuns just to transfer a +12. I can't say for certain what the cost of the gems will be because my chienkun cost table only goes up to g16.


There are a lot of upgrade paths for the ring but I think this is going to be the standard one. The ring does indeed refine for both pdef and mres and at a higher rate than r9r.
G17R1 Ring = Solar Manifestation/Slaughter + 25 (#54954) + 1 (#54962) + 0.1 chienkun
G17R2 Ring = G17R1 Ring + 375 (#54954) + 50 (#54955) + 0.2 chienkun
G17R3 Ring = G17R2 Ring + 750 (#54954) + 100 (#54955) + 15 (#54956) + 0.2 chienkun
G17R4 Ring = G17R3 Ring + 1125 (#54954) + 150 (#54955) + 25 (#54956) + 6 (#54955) + 0.3 chienkun

dregenfox

asterelle wrote: »

Checked out the recipes and they all have high chienkun costs by the time you reach the max stage except for the helm which has 0 chienkun. Feel free to shard your CoMs with Devil / Serenity.

I just used IDs for the mats. In general the upgrade cost structure looks pretty similar to the way you upgrade G17 weapons. Each stage is like twice the cost of the previous stage plus some of a higher grade mat.

Dominator Crest Helm -> CoM + 1500(#53423) + 0 chienkun cost

G17R3 Cape = Wings of Ascencion + 750 (#54944) + 200 (#54945) + 30 (#54946) + 0.1 chienkun cost
G17R4 Cape = G17R3 + 2000 (#54944) + 450 (#54945) + 80 (#54946) + 15 (#54947) + 0.2 chienkun cost
G17R5 Cape = G17R4 + 4500(#54944) + 675 (#54945) + 150 (#54946) + 25 (#54947) + 6 (#54948) + 0.3 chienkun cost
So total chienkun cost would be like 0.6... about 600 chienkuns just to transfer a +12. I can't say for certain what the cost of the gems will be because my chienkun cost table only goes up to g16.


There are a lot of upgrade paths for the ring but I think this is going to be the standard one. The ring does indeed refine for both pdef and mres and at a higher rate than r9r.
G17R1 Ring = Solar Manifestation/Slaughter + 25 (#54954) + 1 (#54962) + 0.1 chienkun
G17R2 Ring = G17R1 Ring + 375 (#54954) + 50 (#54955) + 0.2 chienkun
G17R3 Ring = G17R2 Ring + 750 (#54954) + 100 (#54955) + 15 (#54956) + 0.2 chienkun
G17R4 Ring = G17R3 Ring + 1125 (#54954) + 150 (#54955) + 25 (#54956) + 6 (#54955) + 0.3 chienkun

Hmm, so going from those costs, I'd guess a total gem transfer cost of 800-900 mil, if not more. So barely cheaper than resharding JoSD from scratch.

Assuming people take advantage of spend rewards it also makes sense to refine to +12 from scratch as well.

So as far as capes and rings go it is the same as starting over. Combined with the farming requirements it will require a significant investment, but the gains are decent compared to WoA.

I guess good news is that it's getting easier to obtain DoD's and JoSD from spend and charge rewards, and that the total cost will be spread over several recasts. So it doesn't seem as bad.

Having to upgrade armors to g17 will be ridiculous though. I really hope it doesn't happen anytime soon...

blazerboy

@asterelle so I have a +12 +2 gem helm I'm safe right? But cape which is +12 will cost at max for refine 600? Trying to make sure I understand

dregenfox

blazerboy wrote: »

@asterelle so I have a +12 +2 gem helm I'm safe right? But cape which is +12 will cost at max for refine 600? Trying to make sure I understand

600 to transfer +12, 479 (or 480 depending on rounding) to transfer sockets + JoSD. So total 1079 (or 1080) to fully transfer an end-gamed WoA.

blazerboy

@dregenfox 1080 total? Or 1080 for just one recast

dregenfox

blazerboy wrote: »

@dregenfox 1080 total? Or 1080 for just one recast

1080 total through all recasts, to transfer +12 refines plus all sockets + all gems. (Actual number might be slightly different if China decides to make g17 socket transfer higher than +53 stones)

blazerboy

Welp better start farming Chienkuns

asterelle

I don't actually have chienkun info for g17 sockets or for g14 stones so I can't answer specific cheinkun questions. You can read about how chienkun costs work in general here: http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Chienkun_Transfer_Charts#Generic_Chienkun_Transfer_Costs (slow site)

I haven't been able to find an updated table for that stuff and don't know where it is in the client.
I can fill out the missing info though if someone posts the cost for g17 weapon reforging or r9s4 reforging with +3 stones.​​

weapon762

gg

maksim1995

maksim1995 wrote: »

blazerboy wrote: »

@maksim1995 my word... first turn WOA to g17 then 4 recast seriously???? So much for saving gem and refine

@blazerboy Here we have two options as well You can farm G17 Cape from scratch, but it might take a lot longer, or upgrade your WoA to G17 Cape, you'll get 2/4 (2nd) or 3/4 (3rd) cast instead of 1st one in this way.

@asterelle Does it takes a lot longer to farm it from scratch compared to WoA ---> G17 option ?

maksim1995

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ballenato

maksim1995 wrote: »

mooglemonger wrote: »

I agree that those capes look nice at their final stage but now I'm thinking its not worth breaking the WoA/ CoM set bonus. Also too bad that the +1000 is evasion was really hoping that was hp.

It would also depend on the amount of time required to farm.

@mooglemonger Talking about set bonus, there are two options, you can win x-tw and get Crest of Dominator or get Crown of Madness and upgrade it into Crown of Armageddon with Arena reward coins.


http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/42402
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/48488

This update is going to be so bad

valdisman

This update is a cash shoppers paradise.

The farmable side is most likely going to be as ridiculously long as the current g17 weapons. Everything they release now is relying on people to spend, to get it sooner rather than farm it. They know people will rush to spend = more money making for the game, hense the stupidly long alternative *farming* times. Yeah, it's all based off PWCN and their prices/methods but the same applies over there.

These upgrades will make very little difference to most who get them, it'll be more of a *I have it and you don't* item.

phantomforce#4598

I smell a Necromancer..