I decided to check on how long it took to form a group or join a group for T9 and CoDG on my 16K CW.
Trying to join a group was a nightmare. Apparently 16K is not good enough for the community as a CW even if you play as a Buff CW.
Forming groups were just as bad. I always go for the DC and tank first. Every tank or DC I picked up would quit and when I asked why, many stated, you are not 17K.
So 16K is not acceptable now for T9 or CoDG apparently. And players leave the Q rather quickly if you are not 17K forming the group, even if you are running as a buffer.
This is unacceptable behavior and it is why many players quit the game, because the community mindset is IL = ability to complete content. I beat t9 on my GF with a group that was all under 15K. It took us an hour but we did it with no wipes on Orcus.