Anyone else have exp with semi-hybrid builds?

wdj40

I have an interesting one at the moment. Did the usual Trapper up to Master Trapper but dropped Ancient Roots and Serpents Bite. Figured Constricting Arrow is my only roots dealer so AR wont lose too much.

Now i put 15 points into the Combat Tree so I gain back the lost Crit from Serpents Bite, for melee Encounters, plus that 5% Life Steal. Then i put 2 points into Skirmishers Gambit for 20% Crit Severity (for 4% Crit cost), the other 3 points into Lucky Blades... 100% proc time for 9% extra Encounter damage. It's working out quite well... still only have 70-80% crit in combat mind you, so Owlbear Active fills a gap whilst I work on improving that.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what is the greater damage out put than what sometimes, wish I had a PC and ACT

mattmonroe

wdj40 said:

I have an interesting one at the moment. Did the usual Trapper up to Master Trapper but dropped Ancient Roots and Serpents Bite. Figured Constricting Arrow is my only roots dealer so AR wont lose too much.

Now i put 15 points into the Combat Tree so I gain back the lost Crit from Serpents Bite, for melee Encounters, plus that 5% Life Steal. Then i put 2 points into Skirmishers Gambit for 20% Crit Severity (for 4% Crit cost), the other 3 points into Lucky Blades... 100% proc time for 9% extra Encounter damage. It's working out quite well... still only have 70-80% crit in combat mind you, so Owlbear Active fills a gap whilst I work on improving that.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what is the greater damage out put than what sometimes, wish I had a PC and ACT

You don't use plant growth? That's a root dealer as well. Seems like a lot of damage to lose not using them.

Also, I'm in your alliance. Hit me up if you want to run tests or anything. I'm a 4.3K Combat. (toon name: e x i l e)

wdj40

wdj40 said:

I have an interesting one at the moment. Did the usual Trapper up to Master Trapper but dropped Ancient Roots and Serpents Bite. Figured Constricting Arrow is my only roots dealer so AR wont lose too much.

Now i put 15 points into the Combat Tree so I gain back the lost Crit from Serpents Bite, for melee Encounters, plus that 5% Life Steal. Then i put 2 points into Skirmishers Gambit for 20% Crit Severity (for 4% Crit cost), the other 3 points into Lucky Blades... 100% proc time for 9% extra Encounter damage. It's working out quite well... still only have 70-80% crit in combat mind you, so Owlbear Active fills a gap whilst I work on improving that.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what is the greater damage out put than what sometimes, wish I had a PC and ACT

I forgot to mention that 9% extra Encounter damage works out nice for Gushing, PG, CoA and Constricting... which hit hard when buffed with AotS, Longstriders and Master Trapper etc

rayrdan

wdj40 said:

I have an interesting one at the moment. Did the usual Trapper up to Master Trapper but dropped Ancient Roots and Serpents Bite. Figured Constricting Arrow is my only roots dealer so AR wont lose too much.

Now i put 15 points into the Combat Tree so I gain back the lost Crit from Serpents Bite, for melee Encounters, plus that 5% Life Steal. Then i put 2 points into Skirmishers Gambit for 20% Crit Severity (for 4% Crit cost), the other 3 points into Lucky Blades... 100% proc time for 9% extra Encounter damage. It's working out quite well... still only have 70-80% crit in combat mind you, so Owlbear Active fills a gap whilst I work on improving that.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what is the greater damage out put than what sometimes, wish I had a PC and ACT

thorned roots tick only 3 times without ancient roots

rayrdan

wdj40 said:

wdj40 said:

I have an interesting one at the moment. Did the usual Trapper up to Master Trapper but dropped Ancient Roots and Serpents Bite. Figured Constricting Arrow is my only roots dealer so AR wont lose too much.

Now i put 15 points into the Combat Tree so I gain back the lost Crit from Serpents Bite, for melee Encounters, plus that 5% Life Steal. Then i put 2 points into Skirmishers Gambit for 20% Crit Severity (for 4% Crit cost), the other 3 points into Lucky Blades... 100% proc time for 9% extra Encounter damage. It's working out quite well... still only have 70-80% crit in combat mind you, so Owlbear Active fills a gap whilst I work on improving that.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what is the greater damage out put than what sometimes, wish I had a PC and ACT

I forgot to mention that 9% extra Encounter damage works out nice for Gushing, PG, CoA and Constricting... which hit hard when buffed with AotS, Longstriders and Master Trapper etc

plant growth does not apply ancient roots and thorned roots

wdj40

rayrdan said:

wdj40 said:

I have an interesting one at the moment. Did the usual Trapper up to Master Trapper but dropped Ancient Roots and Serpents Bite. Figured Constricting Arrow is my only roots dealer so AR wont lose too much.

Now i put 15 points into the Combat Tree so I gain back the lost Crit from Serpents Bite, for melee Encounters, plus that 5% Life Steal. Then i put 2 points into Skirmishers Gambit for 20% Crit Severity (for 4% Crit cost), the other 3 points into Lucky Blades... 100% proc time for 9% extra Encounter damage. It's working out quite well... still only have 70-80% crit in combat mind you, so Owlbear Active fills a gap whilst I work on improving that.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what is the greater damage out put than what sometimes, wish I had a PC and ACT

thorned roots tick only 3 times without ancient roots

Yeah I know, but in a rotation with LS/GW>CAr/SB>CoA/PG the only Root applier is Constricting Arrow, plus a rotation through all Ranged & Melee attacks does not take very long, thus applying Constricting again.

The main damage dealers for me are Gushing, PG and Careful attack I think. Gushing & PG benefit from the increased Encounter damage instead, as do all the rest of them, I am at 102% Crit Sev + Trans Dread.

rayrdan said:

wdj40 said:

wdj40 said:

I have an interesting one at the moment. Did the usual Trapper up to Master Trapper but dropped Ancient Roots and Serpents Bite. Figured Constricting Arrow is my only roots dealer so AR wont lose too much.

Now i put 15 points into the Combat Tree so I gain back the lost Crit from Serpents Bite, for melee Encounters, plus that 5% Life Steal. Then i put 2 points into Skirmishers Gambit for 20% Crit Severity (for 4% Crit cost), the other 3 points into Lucky Blades... 100% proc time for 9% extra Encounter damage. It's working out quite well... still only have 70-80% crit in combat mind you, so Owlbear Active fills a gap whilst I work on improving that.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what is the greater damage out put than what sometimes, wish I had a PC and ACT

I forgot to mention that 9% extra Encounter damage works out nice for Gushing, PG, CoA and Constricting... which hit hard when buffed with AotS, Longstriders and Master Trapper etc

plant growth does not apply ancient roots and thorned roots

Yup I know, I meant it benefits from Lucky Blades instead

wdj40

mattmonroe said:

wdj40 said:

I have an interesting one at the moment. Did the usual Trapper up to Master Trapper but dropped Ancient Roots and Serpents Bite. Figured Constricting Arrow is my only roots dealer so AR wont lose too much.

Now i put 15 points into the Combat Tree so I gain back the lost Crit from Serpents Bite, for melee Encounters, plus that 5% Life Steal. Then i put 2 points into Skirmishers Gambit for 20% Crit Severity (for 4% Crit cost), the other 3 points into Lucky Blades... 100% proc time for 9% extra Encounter damage. It's working out quite well... still only have 70-80% crit in combat mind you, so Owlbear Active fills a gap whilst I work on improving that.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what is the greater damage out put than what sometimes, wish I had a PC and ACT

You don't use plant growth? That's a root dealer as well. Seems like a lot of damage to lose not using them.

Also, I'm in your alliance. Hit me up if you want to run tests or anything. I'm a 4.3K Combat. (toon name: e x i l e)

Yeah I do now its fixed, see my posts below yours

Sure dude I am always up for some runs, I'm still only 3.8k lol, I spend all my in-game earnings on Companions, Rydia is supposed to be a Summoner after all

rayrdan

ye sorry i wanted to answer to mattmonroe who said "PG is a root dealer as well"

davidagaldo

Have you given any thought to passing over SG and LB to put four in PB and 1 in WM? Sitting at 100% CS + weapenchant (dread)...

wdj40

davidagaldo said:

Have you given any thought to passing over SG and LB to put four in PB and 1 in WM? Sitting at 100% CS + weapenchant (dread)...

That is impossible.

PB is at the 20 point invested mark. To get that you would have to drop the Master Trapper Capstone which is huge.

thefiresidecat

without act the best we can do is to run the same content with the same people. see if you can't get some guildies together to run with you two days in a row. first day run your current set up then respec back to trapper and run the same things you ran the day before and see how it compares.

davidagaldo

Well, if you can double proc MT then yeah, giving up a lot. Otherwise...