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thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
edited October 2016 in Peer to Peer Tech Forum
Ok, I don't normally complain about the way other people present their stuff, because its their choice, but this:


goes too far. Please...use a better forum layout. That layout is NOT friendly to read at all. Stuff is ALL over the place.
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  • dupeksdupeks Member Posts: 1,789 Arc User
    For what it's worth, if you click "categories" at the top right it brings you to a similar view that is a little more palatable.

    But yes, finding new posts, tracking posts that you care about, or using the search are all hilarious on these forums.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    It might have been a glitch (which I was hoping for). It doesn't seem to be doing that anymore.


    Okay, in my upper navigation bar, if I click "Home" instead of "Neverwinter", the layout doesn't totally suck.
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  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Yes but after you click on categories there isn't a way to navigate back unless you click back arrow on your browser. Agreed, this is truly terrible!
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  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    It's not showing that way for me. Not sure exactly what the issue is for some viewers. What browser are you using and have you tried clearing your cache? Vanilla has been doing changes on their end.
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator

    Ok, I don't normally complain about the way other people present their stuff, because its their choice, but this:


    goes too far. Please...use a better forum layout. That layout is NOT friendly to read at all. Stuff is ALL over the place.

    I normally do not complain about the way people present their feedback, because it is their choice, but please do elaborate on what browser you're using, platform, and just where you're seeing this (the exact URL), for I nor many others cannot see what you're seeing. ;P

    I'm using Chrome, latest update, on Windows 10 and clicking Home and Categories shows a very nice orderly list, unlike what you're showing us.

  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    zebular said:

    Ok, I don't normally complain about the way other people present their stuff, because its their choice, but this:


    goes too far. Please...use a better forum layout. That layout is NOT friendly to read at all. Stuff is ALL over the place.

    I normally do not complain about the way people present their feedback, because it is their choice, but please do elaborate on what browser you're using, platform, and just where you're seeing this (the exact URL), for I nor many others cannot see what you're seeing. ;P

    I'm using Chrome, latest update, on Windows 10 and clicking Home and Categories shows a very nice orderly list, unlike what you're showing us.

    I am using firefox and atm what my url looks like is:
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/comment/12894105
  • two30two30 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,168 Arc User
    The layout being discussed appears when:
    clicking "Forum" (http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/categories/neverwinter)
    or clicking Home > "Neverwinter" (http://forum.arcgames.com/neverwinter/categories/neverwinter)
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  • loboguildloboguild Member Posts: 2,371 Arc User
    What two30 said.

    The layout might appear differently for those than run the Forum Enhancement Script, which I highly recommend: www.arcgames.com/en/forums/arc?byNode=true#/discussion/1195098/pwe-forums-enhancement-extension-discussion-and-requests

    The forum is a true mess in many ways. You need a buttload of external plugins and scripts to get rid of the arc frame and make the whole thing visually bearable and usable.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    Ewww. Ok, I see it now. Please use this link: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/ Andy is on vacation, and Vanilla has been doing some changes behind the scenes. I will bring it up with Andy when he gets back from vacation.
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  • micky1p00micky1p00 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    Also extremly annoying in this new idea that I can't see the subforums, I don't want to click PC and then general discussion and feedback, it used to be listed in the frame itself, so it was possible to open the subforum directly from that page. Same with Class subforums.
  • micky1p00micky1p00 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    edited October 2016

    zebular said:

    Ok, I don't normally complain about the way other people present their stuff, because its their choice, but this:


    goes too far. Please...use a better forum layout. That layout is NOT friendly to read at all. Stuff is ALL over the place.

    I normally do not complain about the way people present their feedback, because it is their choice, but please do elaborate on what browser you're using, platform, and just where you're seeing this (the exact URL), for I nor many others cannot see what you're seeing. ;P

    I'm using Chrome, latest update, on Windows 10 and clicking Home and Categories shows a very nice orderly list, unlike what you're showing us.

    I am using firefox and atm what my url looks like is:
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/comment/12894105
    It's exactly the same on the 3 major browsers, chrome, firefox, edge. Super bad.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    micky1p00 said:

    Also extremly annoying in this new idea that I can't see the subforums, I don't want to click PC and then general discussion and feedback, it used to be listed in the frame itself, so it was possible to open the subforum directly from that page. Same with Class subforums.

    I hear you on that one. I completely agree. Just can't do anything about it until Andy gets back from vacation (and honestly, probably will have to wait til a few days after he gets back because he's gonna be swamped).
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  • uzalauzala Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    for what its worth, its the same on Mac OS sierra with latest safari.
  • two30two30 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,168 Arc User
    Most of the people in this thread have over a thousand posts. I have the "discussions" link (http://forum.arcgames.com/neverwinter/discussions) bookmarked and I assumed that the other forum addicts were using the same.

    P.S. Anyone with more posts than me is a hamster, and anyone with fewer is a hamster.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    http://imgur.com/a/tf2fE

    Looks like this on my custom chromium build. Not sure why you guys have this.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    diogene0 said:

    http://imgur.com/a/tf2fE

    Looks like this on my custom chromium build. Not sure why you guys have this.

    Mine looks about like that, cause of the links I use. But with more stuff cause moderator.
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  • micky1p00micky1p00 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    two30 said:

    Most of the people in this thread have over a thousand posts. I have the "discussions" link (http://forum.arcgames.com/neverwinter/discussions) bookmarked and I assumed that the other forum addicts were using the same.

    P.S. Anyone with more posts than me is a hamster, and anyone with fewer is a hamster.

    Yup, using an old bookmark to: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/categories/neverwinter
    And not http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/categories

    The second one looks okish. The first one is the bad.
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    I vote we go back to the old forums.. can we also dump the ps4 and xbox crowd into a consolve vs pc forum.. jeepers.

  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    I absolutely loath the new design.

    I see just the page headers without descriptions & I'm using Chrome Version 53.0.2785.143 m
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  • arabaturarabatur Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 778 Arc User
    Official dev tracker to, for when this get fixed please.
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  • bitt3rnightmar3bitt3rnightmar3 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 788 Arc User
    I see the same thing as Fab. I'm using Windows 7 Google Chrome.
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  • loboguildloboguild Member Posts: 2,371 Arc User
    arabatur said:

    Official dev tracker to, for when this get fixed please.

    There is a working dev tracker and I personally wouldn't put resources into something that already exists in sufficient form. Stuff is even streamed to Twitter so that's actually an upgrade to the tracker we had on the old forum. I get it's not "official", but an "official" one also wouldn't add anything besides being "official".
  • wylonuswylonus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,376 Arc User
    simple, one word for arc and vanilla, "STOP"!!!!!
    we are fed up with changing the forums, it is waste of time for them to mess with it, it take some players/readers to find thier own favorite topics. folks are hating to get adjusting over and over when forum changed too often.
    my opinion, "ENOUGH!"
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    We're aware some users are experiencing this wierdness. For the time being, we suggest to use these links:

    http://forum.arcgames.com/neverwinter/categories
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussions

    These are the two links you see labeled "Categories" and "Discussions" up top far to the right of your Avatar.
  • nipsmeowingtonnipsmeowington Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    kreatyve said:

    micky1p00 said:

    Also extremly annoying in this new idea that I can't see the subforums, I don't want to click PC and then general discussion and feedback, it used to be listed in the frame itself, so it was possible to open the subforum directly from that page. Same with Class subforums.

    I hear you on that one. I completely agree. Just can't do anything about it until Andy gets back from vacation (and honestly, probably will have to wait til a few days after he gets back because he's gonna be swamped).
    Heh
  • sandukutupusandukutupu Member Posts: 2,285 Arc User
    Link: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/categories/neverwinter
    Image:

    Browser: Chrome
    as per Zebular's statement, "please do elaborate on what browser you're using, platform, and just where you're seeing this (the exact URL)".
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited October 2016

    Link: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/categories/neverwinter
    Image:
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    Browser: Chrome
    as per Zebular's statement, "please do elaborate on what browser you're using, platform, and just where you're seeing this (the exact URL)".

    Thanks, we don't need anymore information at this time. It's clear now that it affects all users who are using the base "Forum" link in the Arcgames.com menu header. In the mean time, please instead use the the "Categories" or "Discussions" links far to the right of your forum Avatar. The "Categories" one there is what should be displaying when clicking "Forum" but for whatever reason, it is not. So, for now, please use the "Categories" link in place of clicking "Forum."

    zebular said:

    We're aware some users are experiencing this wierdness. For the time being, we suggest to use these links:

    http://forum.arcgames.com/neverwinter/categories
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussions

    These are the two links you see labeled "Categories" and "Discussions" up top far to the right of your Avatar.

    Post edited by zebular on
  • I was wondering the same actually, I create websites for a living and couldn't believe the official forums looked that shoddy!
  • micky1p00micky1p00 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    Anything new about this ?
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    micky1p00 said:

    Anything new about this ?

    Should be fixed now!
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