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  • Sugarboy - EyrdaSugarboy - Eyrda Posts: 638 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ***Updated***

    -Images of 75 skills Mutlation, Imperiling Hack, Shadow Bite
    -Pet comments, use, skills.
    -Comments on Pros and Cons about new 75 skills
    -Pure vs Hybrid comments
    -What I would do with build!?!?!?

    ***Upcoming***
    -PvP tactics to deal with
    -Wars and BoR
    -Prots and Rocky
    -Divine Priest Shields and Mana drain
    -Water Bard slow and Shield
    -MM Evasion and Burn Dmg
    -Bypass Vamp bugged Feast
    -Deal with other sin's Swift Evasion
    -Work around Pray Racial
    -Ice mages and mana draining shields
    -Typical pvp tactics for all class and their most likely course of action.

    lol i see you didnt mention dark vamps in the list of pvp tactics......
  • Abels - LionheartAbels - Lionheart Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    lol i see you didnt mention dark vamps in the list of pvp tactics......

    Stealth > Gouge > DN > pray > VI > TS > Gouge > DN win
  • Sugarboy - EyrdaSugarboy - Eyrda Posts: 638 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Stealth > Gouge > DN > pray > VI > TS > Gouge > DN win

    umm......kindred lol.....no problem i understand what u mean, keep control skills on them or die Dx
  • nightwolf200nightwolf200 Posts: 3,073 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Stealth > Gouge > DN > pray > VI > TS > Gouge > DN win

    lol not all of us are human sins like you Abels
    [SIGPIC]sora[/SIGPIC]
    "That's not true! The heart may be weak, and sometimes it may even give in. But I've learned that deep down, there's a light that never goes out!"

    IGN: slayernight
    Race/Class: Kindred Assassin


    One of the last players that was in the defunct guild Wolfpack.
  • Sugarboy - EyrdaSugarboy - Eyrda Posts: 638 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    lol not all of us are human sins like you Abels

    lol he's kindred as well :p
  • Abels - LionheartAbels - Lionheart Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    lol he's kindred as well :p

    lol stay tuned to see how you can beat one :P and yes ive done it before with the exception of one vamp that got 29k base hp i can beat the others np i even 3 shot a 70 dark vamp the other day xD
  • BegForIt - EyrdaBegForIt - Eyrda Posts: 541 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I guess I'm just lucky with the vamps I fight but they are my favorite prey :P

    I remember triple killing a team of 3 vamps in arena once it was beautiful. Slept 1, 3 shot another, went back to the one i slept, 4 shot him, and 2 shot the last (with some orbs at this point) the third who my ally was tanking by healing himself (he was a blood vamp).

    That team of vamps definitely needed to learn how to play their class but overall I find matching up with vamps not a problem for me majority of the time. Them, warriors, and MM are my easiest opponents.

    I always have trouble with mages (ice), prots, water bards.

    Priests never kill me but its a pain in the **** to solo them at higher lvls. By the time I kill one, rest of my team is dead and I get ganked.
  • Shadiggles - EyrdaShadiggles - Eyrda Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hi! I have a few questions to ask.

    1) Is it just me or are the links not working?

    2) I read that hybrid builds are not the way to go since the best skills are at the end of the branches of the skill trees. Is this true or can hybrid builds still be viable?

    3) I don't know which build I should choose. Can you guys help me? I'm going to play mostly PvE and a bit of PvP here and there. Should I do Dark over Venom or Venom over Dark?

    Thanks a lot, folks!
  • Abels - LionheartAbels - Lionheart Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I guess I'm just lucky with the vamps I fight but they are my favorite prey :P

    I remember triple killing a team of 3 vamps in arena once it was beautiful. Slept 1, 3 shot another, went back to the one i slept, 4 shot him, and 2 shot the last (with some orbs at this point) the third who my ally was tanking by healing himself (he was a blood vamp).

    That team of vamps definitely needed to learn how to play their class but overall I find matching up with vamps not a problem for me majority of the time. Them, warriors, and MM are my easiest opponents.

    I always have trouble with mages (ice), prots, water bards.

    Priests never kill me but its a pain in the **** to solo them at higher lvls. By the time I kill one, rest of my team is dead and I get ganked.

    Kamekuma a dark vamp with 29.5k base hp would like to disagree with you on that lol yeah some dark vamps my lvl i can kill with out them even hitting me once but when someones got 29.5k base hp with more gems and higher lvl gear than me it becomes a prob with their 12s dark bonds >.>

    @Shadiggles

    1. no the talent calculators are still down

    2. I'm hybrid and if i wanted too i could tank pick off mobs burst dps pull agro etc etc the only thing that i cant do is heal party members and aoe >.>zzzzzzzzzz

    3. If you read the guide it should of given you enough information to make a good choice on what build to use I've posted up comments about what each tree can do and what common skills you should be using for them.
  • Zdar - EyrdaZdar - Eyrda Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    this is my current edge build at lvl61, where should i put the remaining 3 points to reach 45 points?


    5/5 seal thorn

    3/3 dark shadow
    4/4 keen eye

    4/4 feral cruelty
    3/4 gouge (requires lvl75 for next skill)
    3/3 thrust

    3/3 edge strike

    2/2 broken shadow strike
    3/3 advanced gouge

    3/3 sharpened blade

    3/3 bulls eye
    3/3 ruthlessness

    1/2 secret art blast (requires lvl70 for next skill)

    2/2 advanced art blast
  • BegForIt - EyrdaBegForIt - Eyrda Posts: 541 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Kamekuma a dark vamp with 29.5k base hp would like to disagree with you on that lol yeah some dark vamps my lvl i can kill with out them even hitting me once but when someones got 29.5k base hp with more gems and higher lvl gear than me it becomes a prob with their 12s dark bonds >.>

    Yea there are some nasty dark vamps out there -_-

    Particularly NoriDe on Eyrda scares the **** outta me (prolly cuz he/she is 13+ lvls higher than me :D)
  • Abels - LionheartAbels - Lionheart Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    this is my current edge build at lvl61, where should i put the remaining 3 points to reach 45 points?


    5/5 seal thorn

    3/3 dark shadow
    4/4 keen eye

    4/4 feral cruelty
    3/4 gouge (requires lvl75 for next skill)
    3/3 thrust

    3/3 edge strike

    2/2 broken shadow strike
    3/3 advanced gouge

    3/3 sharpened blade

    3/3 bulls eye
    3/3 ruthlessness

    1/2 secret art blast (requires lvl70 for next skill)

    2/2 advanced art blast

    Swift counter the pitch skill that slows for the same speed that youre reduced too
  • Shadiggles - EyrdaShadiggles - Eyrda Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    omg the talent sites are still down???
  • Abels - LionheartAbels - Lionheart Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    omg the talent sites are still down???

    yes sadly they are ;(
  • Torm - Storm LegionTorm - Storm Legion Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i know its alot to ask.. but there is some way u could show me the venom tree? i started an assassin a few months ago but since the tree site is down im not sure which talents r useful
  • Abels - LionheartAbels - Lionheart Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i know its alot to ask.. but there is some way u could show me the venom tree? i started an assassin a few months ago but since the tree site is down im not sure which talents r useful

    Here you go Torm everything you need to know bout venom thank xDeadly for not being as lazy as me lol

    http://fw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=245061


    meh here ill post my venom tree atm as well, wanted to test the DoT dmg on NT and show someone how to pvp with venom build.

    venomtree.jpg
  • Torm - Storm LegionTorm - Storm Legion Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Here you to Torm everything you need to know bout venom thank xDeadly for not being as lazy as me lol

    http://fw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=245061


    meh here ill post my venom tree atm as well, wanted to test the DoT dmg on NT and show someone how to pvp with venom build.

    venomtree.jpg

    thanks
  • wadaaaaaaaawpwadaaaaaaaawp Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    question: whats Vl in your previous post abel?
  • Okiemute - EyrdaOkiemute - Eyrda Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    (buff)Vicious Intention(lvl 60 skill) +20%attack, removes ensnare effects.
  • Abels - LionheartAbels - Lionheart Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    (buff)Vicious Intention(lvl 60 skill) +20%attack, removes ensnare effects.

    Also increases acc by 1k even though it doesnt state it anymore in the description or show up when you buff its still there.
  • Okiemute - EyrdaOkiemute - Eyrda Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Also increases acc by 1k even though it doesnt state it anymore in the description or show up when you buff its still there.

    it doesn't for me and a few others i spoke with about it.
    when u say "show up when you buff its still there" do u mean show up in the C menu? cause my acc is still the same before and after buff 360.
  • Sugarboy - EyrdaSugarboy - Eyrda Posts: 638 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    it doesn't for me and a few others i spoke with about it.
    when u say "show up when you buff its still there" do u mean show up in the C menu? cause my acc is still the same before and after buff 360.

    VI doesnt show up as a buff and it doesnt show the accuracy buff but the 1k acc is added (invisible buff) and you will not miss regardless of what it states on the 'C' menu.....try it out on a sin with swift evasion activated
  • Sypha - Storm LegionSypha - Storm Legion Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Can anyone post a good Edge/Dark build.

    Trying to find a really good PVP build here. I'm seeing alot of mixed reviews on builds, such as edge is amazing, but the end of the edge tree is horrible, Dark is great but has the lowest in dmg.
  • Abels - LionheartAbels - Lionheart Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    VI doesnt show up as a buff and it doesnt show the accuracy buff but the 1k acc is added (invisible buff) and you will not miss regardless of what it states on the 'C' menu.....try it out on a sin with swift evasion activated

    oh if you guys pop vi look up at your buff bar youll see that it does indeed state that acc is increased for approx 3 seconds.
  • ancrionosancrionos Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    the Hybrid builds doesnt work :(
  • biggs11biggs11 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    can you post the lower part of the talent tress??thank you
  • winrehswinrehs Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Yo, can you use this ( http://www.aesica.net/fw/ ) to show your Pure Dark and Venom Build. Please?

    Thanks in advance
  • Ss_Gambit_ss - EyrdaSs_Gambit_ss - Eyrda Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Pure Dark Build

    Here is what I am working with after playing dark and getting a bit of feedback.

    http://www.aesica.net/fw/?race=3&profession=0&level=80&talent=||5533014433400340011402003020321
    Lv56 Dark Sin
    Lv40 Water Bard
    Lv35 Wind Mage
  • themoodiebritthemoodiebrit Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I wd really like to give u some feedback, bt well the talent calculator aint showing anything.
  • Ss_Gambit_ - EyrdaSs_Gambit_ - Eyrda Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I wd really like to give u some feedback, bt well the talent calculator aint showing anything.

    Dark tree
    Swift Stalk 5/5
    Ghost Shadow 5/5
    Throat Cut 3/3
    Shadow Assassin 3/3
    Persistent Chase 1/3
    Swift Evasion 2/4
    Accuracy Boost 4/4
    Art of Hunting 3/3
    Evasiveness 3/3
    Advance Shadow Protection 4/4
    Rapid Attack 3/3
    Swift Wind 4/4
    Ghost Image 1/1
    Speed of Darkness 1/1
    Shapeless 4/4
    Freedom of Wind 2/2
    Stealth Theory 2/3
    Focused Maneuver 3/3
    Advanced Freedom of Wind 2/2
    Phased Action 3/3
    Convert Stalker 2/2
    Shadow Bites 1/1
    Lv60 Dark Sin
    Lv41 Water Bard
    Lv40 Wind Mage
    Lv22 Diamond Prot
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