Munitions help for a noob

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  flowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User

  March 2019 edited March 2019

  FFs are a general improvement, even if just for the extra power slots, but also for being able to choose the SS's, role, talents, powers, and specs freely. I don't know about weapon skins for that theme, but a steampunk one may be available.
  
  Anyways, AR is your main single-target attack there. Unless you are replacing it w/ TGM, then I wouldn't drop it. Most 'magic' attacks won't be as much use to a Muni dps build, though you could get things like block enhancers or other misc stuff like threat wipes, reses, or CC powers from those sets w/o it impacting your Muni attacks that much. Here's an example FF build for it:
  
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  Super Stats
  Level 6: Ego (Primary)
  Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
  Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, Ego: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
  Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
  Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 12: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
  Level 18: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
  Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Gunslinger
  Level 1: Submachinegun Burst (Wall of Bullets, Extra Bullets)
  Level 6: Concentration
  Level 8: Targeting Computer (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 11: Killer Instinct
  Level 14: Gatling Gun (Rank 2, Listen to Reason)
  Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 20: Assault Rifle (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 23: Mini Mines (Stim Pack)
  Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
  Level 29: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2)
  Level 32: Sniper Rifle (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 35: Lock N Load (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 38: Thundering Return
  Adv. Points: 34/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
  Ego: Insight (3/3)
  Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
  Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
  Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
  Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
  Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
  Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
  Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
  
  Mini Mines can heal you w/o them needing to be tripped, so I threw them in there. Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some Con and Rec.

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  bringmeaslab Posts: 187 Arc User

  March 2019

  One sorcery attack that does have some synergy with muni is Hex of Suffering, which is a good DoT that is also a click fear for the SMG adv.

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  flowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User

  March 2019

  Yea, that could work, though Hex is limited to 50ft so it'd mostly be for SMG to help make up for its low base dmg.

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  paneth48 Posts: 31 Arc User

  March 2019

  Question: Why con over dex? I thought dex would have been better for crit chance. Survivability?

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  jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,431 Arc User

  March 2019

  You could go Ego/Dex/Con and get a bit of Rec through Talents.
  
  If you want a little 100 ft. Magic you could go for Will-o'-the-Wisp w/ Ghost Fire for some Clinging Flames and Fear. Might be more useful than Thundering Return. You could swap in Imbue for LnL and put some of those adv points elsewhere.

  

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  paneth48 Posts: 31 Arc User

  March 2019 edited March 2019

  I think I'm understanding a bit more via the dps guide posted here, you want a main 'damaging' stat (In this case either ego or dex) and 'Energy' stat (am I getting that right?) which would be rec or Int, and a 'Defense' stat, in this case con. So choosing Dex and ego I would either be hampering energy recovery or the amount of HP I would have UNLESS I geared for it? Am I on the right track here?
  
  Also I noticed Hold Out shot with stim pack was removed, I assume it was just in the original AT build for that whole reason and it being replaced with an actually dedicated healing power made it a waste of points?

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  bringmeaslab Posts: 187 Arc User

  March 2019

  The division you've made into damage, energy, and con stats is a good way to start with freeform building. The most important qualification to that is that your "damage" stat is really whatever your form stat is, but for ranged that can always be Ego or Dex anyway due to Concentration and Chilled Form.
  
  Once you get more into advanced building, you probably won't follow those rules as much, due to the different ways you can get benefits from stats. For example, only one of my dps has Con as an SS b/c I find I don't need it for survivability so I pick another stat to help my damage. And since you mentioned taking both Ego and Dex, several of my characters actually have that combo, both for the Ego spec tree and so I can get a small boost to crit while stacking my form. But that's more stuff to consider when you get more comfortable with freeform, and the rules you've given youself shouldn't lead you astray as long as you stack your form.

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  pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User

  March 2019 edited March 2019

  The thing about energy stats is: base damage (whatever you use to scale your form) and crit chance are always useful. Energy management is super useful up to the point at which you can continually attack without using your energy builder, after which it is completely useless. This means you want to figure out the minimum amount needed to attack without your energy builder. It's also important to remember that your form grants energy -- roughly 1 energy per 10 stat points, no more than once per 4 seconds.

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  flowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User

  March 2019 edited March 2019

  paneth48 wrote: »

  Question: Why con over dex? I thought dex would have been better for crit chance. Survivability?

  Yes. I figured you would want the extra leeway as a 'noob', but you can build more as a glass cannon if you want. You can get pretty high crit via gear, 6th Sense, and Guardicator specs as is that rolling KI shouldn't be much of an issue either way (and you still have energy coming from your toggle/form regardless).
  
  In this case, Gatling is prob the only somewhat costly attack; once you get decent gear it shouldn't be too hard to afford things, and then you can allocate more into stats other than Rec/energy. Also, there's other dps setups that can work here too, like taking DEX PSS w/ Chilled Form (instead of Concentration), or INT/Dex/Con_Rec or DEX/Int/Con_Rec with Concentration (Int focus, either way). Usually there's multiple SS options that can fit a powerset's build; mine was just one example.
  

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  vonqball Posts: 923 Arc User

  March 2019 edited March 2019

  My main dps was an assault rifle type. And I would advise taking howl, if theme permits. Howl is the only way to stack furious at 100', It also refreshes furious stacks. Stacking up furious vs bosses using smg can be a real pain, since the % chance to apply furious is low and "per target".
  
  You also want gatling with listen to reason to refresh furious and armor piercing on tap.

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