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Fallout 76 aka The facts why Fallout 76 is bad. Or why Bethesda is.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    still speculation if you don't know what Bethesda was using the variable names FOR.
    You can read, right? Stockholm syndrome much? Of course, now that gamers found out about the code being in place, Bethesda is going to pull the brakes on their plans. But still, it doesn't make their secret attempt at shoving MTX into the customers faces, less insulting.
    I've never played ANY game made by Bethesda....

    also whining about lootboxes is like whining about the fact you don't get all the perks for free... Initial sales are not adequate to run the servers for an online multiplayer game. You can stamp your feet about it being an "insult" as long as you want, it doesn't change that Bethesda makes games because they want your money.
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  • beezeezebeezeeze Posts: 927 Arc User
    still speculation if you don't know what Bethesda was using the variable names FOR.

    You can read, right? Stockholm syndrome much? Of course, now that gamers found out about the code being in place, Bethesda is going to pull the brakes on their plans. But still, it doesn't make their secret attempt at shoving MTX into the customers faces, less insulting.
    Have fun not playing colonelwing! it is a flawed game but lots of us enjoy it. I truly hope Bethesda does a better job next time! Please do keep us updated on how horrible this game truly is. You're mostly right after all...even though most of us do not care. Have you tried it yet? probably not...if you had you would have personal experience to relate but instead you just post videos....

  • colonelwingcolonelwing Posts: 234 Arc User
    You guys are creepy.
  • beezeezebeezeeze Posts: 927 Arc User
    :D

  • beezeezebeezeeze Posts: 927 Arc User

    You guys are creepy.


    eey colonel to be honest if you are right you are right.


  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 7,938 Arc User
    There you go:
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    Well, if that means opening gazillion lootboxes, i do fine without it. Stick it into the Atomic Store in form of Backbags, i'll buy it.
    I think i've lost "need-to-have" about 20 years ago.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,230 Arc User
    It's "creepy" to enjoy something you don't, and to find rumors based on supposed code crawls to be rather less than reliable??

    Okay, champ, you do you. I'm just over here having fun playing a game, even if you disapprove. Much the way I feel about CO, come to think of it...
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  • colonelwingcolonelwing Posts: 234 Arc User
    I'm not against microtransactions... in free to play games and if they're not pay to win. ^^
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 15,640 Arc User
    I'll give a care when they add microtransactions that automatically buy themselves without my authorization. So long as I don't have to buy them, microtrans away!​​
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,230 Arc User
    I'm not against microtransactions... in free to play games and if they're not pay to win. ^^
    Then these shouldn't give you so much as a moment's pause. But if you just plain don't like Bethesda, then I guess that's on you.

    On my backup XBox account, I'm working on a toon where I'm actually doing a bit of RP, even if it's just in my own head; his name is Eliot Garvey, and he's Preston Garvey's great-grandfather. And right now I'm saving up my atoms to get the Duster and Cowboy Hat from the Atomic Shop - should have all 1000 Atoms in a day or two, and probably make level 9 or 10. Meanwhile, he's looking kind of Fifties in his suspenders and slacks...
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  • beezeezebeezeeze Posts: 927 Arc User
    The jig is up. We here defending FO76 are just a bunch of creepy Bethesda cultists trying to get poor innocent gamers to drink our kool aid.

    Meanwhile my character in the game is lvl 60 now and I am starting to run out of quests to do that are not dailies or events which is unfortunate... pretty satisfied with my character build though, which is a stealthy pistols/shotguns sort of deal that I typically go with in most fallout games. Bagged me a Mothman for the first time last night, it was also the first one I'd seen that was hostile and didn't just teleport away after 2 seconds. That was pretty cool.

  • colonelwingcolonelwing Posts: 234 Arc User
    Jon, i have an Akatosh tattoo on my arm. I'm a Bethesda fan since daggerfall. (I'm older than you think). I also got myself the fallout power armor edition (PC), just for the helmet, though.

    Should i post about today's Bethesda oopsie? Regarding the false advertising of ingame items? Or will you people tell me, that it's all fine and dandy? At this point, they're digging their own grave (sadly).
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 15,640 Arc User
    Should i post about today's Bethesda oopsie? Regarding the false advertising of ingame items? Or will you people tell me, that it's all fine and dandy? At this point, they're digging their own grave (sadly).

    Do you think you'll be the anti-Bethesda warrior to finally win this battle?

    Yeah yeah I know, tatoo on your arm. That's not going to make you anymore successful in what you're trying to do though. People are having fun and you can't stop them.​​
  • colonelwingcolonelwing Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2018
    The thing is, the gamers have had enough. In case you have not noticed it, the long needed video game - market crash is happening right now. The triple A publishers tried cashing in on casuals and trendies. Said crowd is highly vocal, (they make it seem like everybody loves messed up games) when in fact they're just a minority and Bethesda aswell as other triple A clowns shot themselves in the foot (great!). I am merely trying to save the future of video games, by informing people what's really going on. As i mentioned, the few buying into the lies, are a major part of the issue, by sugar coating obvious shady business practices. This is not the only forum i am active on. As it stands, the gamers are actually winning the 'war'.

    Is this a bad thing? I highly doubt it.
  • beezeezebeezeeze Posts: 927 Arc User
    Jon, i have an Akatosh tattoo on my arm. I'm a Bethesda fan since daggerfall. (I'm older than you think). I also got myself the fallout power armor edition (PC), just for the helmet, though.

    Should i post about today's Bethesda oopsie? Regarding the false advertising of ingame items? Or will you people tell me, that it's all fine and dandy? At this point, they're digging their own grave (sadly).

    You mean releasing stupid holiday themed cosmetic junk as being "for sale" during the holidays even though they were not yet released at full price? I assume that means that after the holidays the prices on those items will go up slightly. Oh dear how awful. Truly a travesty. More clickbait outrage..it does keep piling up though doesn't it? At least it is keeping angry youtubers occupied.

  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 15,640 Arc User
    The thing is, the gamers have had enough... I am merely trying to save the future of video games... As it stands, the gamers are actually winning the 'war'.

    TESVI and Fallout 5 are gonna sell like hotcakes. There is no war.​​
  • colonelwingcolonelwing Posts: 234 Arc User
    beezeeze wrote: »
    You mean releasing stupid holiday themed cosmetic junk as being "for sale" during the holidays even though they were not yet released at full price? I assume that means that after the holidays the prices on those items will go up slightly. Oh dear how awful. Truly a travesty. More clickbait outrage..it does keep piling up though doesn't it? At least it is keeping angry youtubers occupied.

    That is false advertising. Items that have not been sold prior to going on sale, have no discount.
  • beezeezebeezeeze Posts: 927 Arc User
    edited December 2018



    So limited time discounts are not technically a sale, I guess I can see your logic there. Duly noted.
    As it stands, the gamers are actually winning the 'war'.


    Sure it's a war, and ok... your side is winning. Cool.


    Bethesda makes fun games that I enjoy and FO76 falls into that category with the rest of them. That is my personal opinion, I am not on a crusade. I have no interest in saving gaming or gamers whatever that even means. If I like the game I will play it and support it, if I don't like it or am uninterested I will move on.

  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,230 Arc User
    Colonel, face it - you've become a Stop Having Fun Guy. And tattooing your arm proves nothing except your pain tolerance.

    So go ahead, hate the game. Like I said, I'll just be over here playing it. Somehow, I think I'll have more fun than you will...
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 15,640 Arc User
    edited December 2018
    https://www.dexerto.com/fallout/fallout-76-players-are-being-banned-for-a-surprising-reason-263136

    I mean duh, it's online, so modding is an issue. Can't these people just wait until Beth puts out the private server thing?

    I like how the article says "Considering Bethesda’s previously open attitude towards the modding community, these bans could signal a dramatic change to that moving forward." as if they're banning modders on all their games and not just F76. The ability of people to be dumb and try to manufacture outrage in this case is amazing.​​
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    Modding in MMOs is basically seen as cheating. People need to actually respect the TOS.
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  • colonelwingcolonelwing Posts: 234 Arc User
    Modding in MMOs is basically seen as cheating. People need to actually respect the TOS.

    Bs, plenty of mmos allow mods. At this point, i believe you're merely posting for the sake of posting. Cheating and modding are two different things.
  • colonelwingcolonelwing Posts: 234 Arc User
    spinnytop wrote: »
    I mean duh, it's online, so modding is an issue.

    Yes, because that wide screen mod along with some texture loading tweaks gives them an unfair advantage over others! Not..
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    Modding in MMOs is basically seen as cheating. People need to actually respect the TOS.
    Bs, plenty of mmos allow mods.
    Prove it. You say "plenty" I figure 3 examples should suffice. I don't think you can name even one though.
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  • shadowfang240shadowfang240 Posts: 1,456 Arc User
    edited December 2018
    UI mods are still mods - and there are dozens of them for both WoW and ESO...but those were the only two i could find that allow UI mods; none of the other big-name MMOs seem to allow it

    so 'plenty' is stretching it​​
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 15,640 Arc User
    edited December 2018
    Yes, because that wide screen mod along with some texture loading tweaks gives them an unfair advantage over others! Not..

    Did I say anything about unfair advantages? No, so it doesn't matter to me that you're referencing them. Modifying online games is commonly known to be a one way ticket to a ban. Doesn't matter how you're modifying it or how harmless you think your little tweaks are, the software is set up to detect tampering and bans you accordingly. That's just common sense at this point. If the game doesn't explicitly state that you may modify it, then the correct assumption to make is that it is just like the other vast majority of online games. If you assume otherwise, then you do so at your own risk.​​
  • xcelsior41xcelsior41 Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    still speculation if you don't know what Bethesda was using the variable names FOR.
    You can read, right? Stockholm syndrome much? Of course, now that gamers found out about the code being in place, Bethesda is going to pull the brakes on their plans. But still, it doesn't make their secret attempt at shoving MTX into the customers faces, less insulting.
    I've never played ANY game made by Bethesda....

    also whining about lootboxes is like whining about the fact you don't get all the perks for free... Initial sales are not adequate to run the servers for an online multiplayer game. You can stamp your feet about it being an "insult" as long as you want, it doesn't change that Bethesda makes games because they want your money.

    Initial sales aren't adequate because of bad word of mouth for the state it was released in tbh.
    Modding in MMOs is basically seen as cheating. People need to actually respect the TOS.

    Bs, plenty of mmos allow mods. At this point, i believe you're merely posting for the sake of posting. Cheating and modding are two different things.

    WoW does it and that's about it. Maybe a few smaller ones but yeah. Also, it sucks for those who were actually doing like in FO4 where they fixed bethesda's common half-**** development of games with mods that helped. But hey! for those not cheating, look at it on the bright side, you're perma banned; might as well return it for another game you want
    Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.

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  • beezeezebeezeeze Posts: 927 Arc User
    In an online potentially competitive environment tweaking graphics that could give players smoother/improved gameplay could be seen as an unfair advantage over others I would say.

    but anyway improved gameplay or not it is pretty common knowledge that modding is not allowed by the vast majority of mmos and players who mod mmos can potentially be banned.

    This is just another article mostly stolen from reddit to create more drama and clickbait.

  • colonelwingcolonelwing Posts: 234 Arc User
    beezeeze wrote: »
    In an online potentially competitive environment tweaking graphics that could give players smoother/improved gameplay could be seen as an unfair advantage over others I would say.

    So.. people with better computers get banned? Since they have higher fps? What about people with better internet than others?

    You crack me up.

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