these missions are fun and awesome, and show the genesis of these areas. and have awesome moments within them, Please make this possible within coming updates or within this year Please?
This was the worst change ever, I always did Monster Island Crisis with my leveling characters for completition sake
I want to see them revert them into Solo queues, it's not even difficult and can be soloed for pete's sake
People don't even queue for them
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pretty much. I still remember the day I got my one toon into the Monster Island Crisis and the rest of the group dropped... seemed to be nothing special so I kept going. That was a fun fight, died a few times, but still had fun... that's a good mission and mechanics as I never felt like I was being killed because of something I couldn't effect... like a KB/Rep Boss that ignores such resistances and refuses to grant the resistance/immunity buffs... it was always because I failed to see an incoming hit or I'd used my heal a bit too soon.
Monster Island Crisis is a soloable queue. However you have to wait I think 3 minutes before it will stop searching and begin. Lemurian Crisis on the other hand is not.
Monster Island Crisis is a soloable queue. However you have to wait I think 3 minutes before it will stop searching and begin. Lemurian Crisis on the other hand is not.
I was queued for days on end with the MIC... before it finally pop'd. Was this changed recently? Did the same with Lemurian Crisis before I had to take a break from gaming due to real life.
Ideally they would just be turned into normal instanced missions and not involve the (buggy) queue system at all.
I wish they'd make solo's of all the blood group content... but that's me... I don't like groups, in real life or in game, just makes my anxiety spike.
> @championshewolf said: > Monster Island Crisis is a soloable queue. However you have to wait I think 3 minutes before it will stop searching and begin. Lemurian Crisis on the other hand is not.
Monster Island crisis USED to be a soloable queue but not anymore it was changed, during the nemesis mission change over update.
So both monster island and lemurian are 3 person queuing At The Moment, And that need to Change.
I wish they'd make solo's of all the blood group content... but that's me... I don't like groups, in real life or in game, just makes my anxiety spike.
> @pantagruel01 said: > (Quote) > That seems to be missing the point of 'MMO'.
Well this is also only Game of it kind can't really blame him on that, but really this game needs some more soloable content, NOT content turn soloable like cosmics Or Gold recognition grinding stuff.
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Well this is also only Game of it kind can't really blame him on that, but really this game needs some more soloable content, NOT content turn soloable like cosmics Or Gold recognition grinding stuff.
Yes, because 95% of the game being soloable, constitutes it needs more. Again, missing the point of the MMO part of MMORPG.
> @championshewolf said: > (Quote) > > Yes, because 95% of the game being soloable, constitutes it needs more. Again, missing the point of the MMO part of MMORPG.
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> Yes, because 95% of the game being soloable, constitutes it needs more. Again, missing the point of the MMO part of MMORPG.
95%?
There is really only a very small portion of the over all game that can't be solo'd. And of that portion some builds can still solo it. The exception are cosmics, and certain OM remakes. Even the alerts are soloable with a lot of build set ups. Now if all you do is alerts and you do nothing else, i can see where your confusion of the vast majority of this game being soloable is at, because you probably rarely leave the ren center, but the vast majority of this game is actually quite soloable.
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> Yes, because 95% of the game being soloable, constitutes it needs more. Again, missing the point of the MMO part of MMORPG.
95%?
Yeah I know, she low-balled the number, it's actually more than that. Typical championshewolf, always making numbers lower than they need to be ^_^.
> @championshewolf said: > (Quote) > > There is really only a very small portion of the over all game that can't be solo'd. And of that portion some builds can still solo it. The exception are cosmics, and certain OM remakes. Even the alerts are soloable with a lot of build set ups. Now if all you do is alerts and you do nothing else, i can see where your confusion of the vast majority of this game being soloable is at, because you probably rarely leave the ren center, but the vast majority of this game is actually quite soloable.
At first thought you was talking about another game, okay.
1. if you talk about using a Freeform, Then that do not count. that is not really a standard or something you get right off when you start playing this game, you want to give people a reason to invest in to this game not a reason invest because it looks logical, it not a good choice of action invest in a FF right at start because of Semi-complexity and must have the knowledge of what he\she is doing with side FF Powers.
2. used to be a time that the old mega destroid can be soloed and get good amount of Gs [50-80Gs worth] from just by soloing it, but that now no long a thing that can be done now, and it more of a get a call up a team and get the roles for the job, just like cosmic, that a good thing because this help people to learn how to fight cosmics in away, and at the right time and place! but that was a huge loss of profit within the game, when i said "this game needs some more soloable content" i mean profitable solo content like getting a item to sell or to keep, or something that give more life to this game, like getting collectibles [Action figures don't cut it!] like items bring in entertain and fun and usefulness to the community, it a reason i said Cosmics, and Gold recognition within my reply, because these are the most Go to in champions Online, and i thought you would catch on to that, And also Standard mission in CO also don't don't really cut it in to this, yeah! they are soloable, maybe to a point. but they can be only done like 1 time per character at least to some anyway, and i'm not altoholic, and it be silly to think alot of people are...
3.Alert are not count as soloable, and i hope you know this because that truly do not count, because you can somehow solo a boss without a teams help don't means it soloable, you need 4-7 people to even be within the alert, and you Grab,Burst,smash, they soloable with a Freeform... and maybe with a AT with a certain powerset, but that will mean you will need All 4 people to somehow Quit or crash with in the alert while you fighting the boss, if you don't ask them to do so, that will be the chance of that happening... 2% if not less then that,
Rampage and Customs Alerts, Customs?... Nope, with Save The Earth anyway being that thing. Rampage? No, Fire and ice. because Rampage and Customs alerts are not meant to be soloable, it rightout silly to say alert count as soloable content, with they are made not to be so. <:/
4. "exception are cosmics" really? so you solo Teleios Ascendant by yourself? Or just you didn't know that exist? lair also a thing to By The Way, not once you mention this, in anyway, are you really in the right to say it 95%?
5. if it is 95% why is there's are more people at Rencenter MC doing nothing but chatting and not doing these 95% soloable content? and why is places like Desert, Canada, Monster Island, Vibora bay having so few range from 1-7 people, we all know those number go higher then that when a cosmic is going on. i know this game may not have that much people but, Cmon! unless you telling me Roleplaying with or without a X is soloable content, alone with standing by defender all day.
Alerts are only soloable if there's a queuing bug that gets you into the instance solo, or if everyone quits out, but in terms of difficulty they're soloable.
Assuming you get into the instance solo, Gravitar and Lemurian Invasion are soloable by specific builds though doing so would be mega tedious, I don't think Fire and Ice or Sky Command is soloable. Soloing StE would probably be possible but again mega tedious due to requirements for interacting with consoles, every other custom alert is fairly straightforward to solo.
4. "exception are cosmics" really? so you solo Teleios Ascendant by yourself? Or just you didn't know that exist? lair also a thing to By The Way, not once you mention this, in anyway, are you really in the right to say it 95%?
Yeah, even if you add TA and Destroids Rise Again, it's well under 5% of the game.
5. if it is 95% why is there's are more people at Rencenter MC doing nothing but chatting and not doing these 95% soloable content?
First of all, there aren't. Typical RenCen population is probably 10-20% of zone population. Other than that, because that's what they want to do? Now, it's true that endgame content is less soloable than the game as a whole, but a lot of that is soloable.
and why is places like Desert, Canada, Monster Island, Vibora bay having so few range from 1-7 people, we all know those number go higher then that when a cosmic is going on.
It's almost like people are choosing multiplayer content...
> @spinnytop said: > (Quote) > > This is, in fact, the definition of soloable o3o you're basically saying "just because you can solo something doesn't mean you can solo it".
You right! by a 100 But you might not beable to do it with a AT, ref to number1. bare in mind shewolf didn't clarify this can be done with AT or FF, and I should had said: you can't count as soloable content by design, unless telling me that people need to make their own content, that just a shame and kinda unfair, yeah there alot of thing you can solo.... As a freeform, I'm not going to take away she had solo 95% of stuff in this game, it something that's I do myself, but 95% as content, by intended design
Soloable doesn't mean "soloable by any build", though there's not a lot of stuff that can be soloed by a FF and can't be soloed by something like a Savage.
By the definition provided the Crisis zones already ARE soloable... you just can't get IN solo. Why should people who want to do this content and can do this content be prevented from accessing the content when there obviously isn't enough interest or population to drive that access?
Make things available to solo if you can...and team if you can’t.
Just because it’s a MMO don’t mean I have or want to play with you people.
Then you have to live with your choice. If you don't want to play with others... well, sorry. But that's your choice and your choice is you don't want to participate in the team content. Again, MMO, you want a single player experience then you may wish to check out similar single player games then.
Soloable doesn't mean "soloable by any build", though there's not a lot of stuff that can be soloed by a FF and can't be soloed by something like a Savage.
however for what i'm getting off from all of this is... we need more soloable content shewolf and seem like the rest of you all that, yall love to solo stuff so we need more soloable content then, because i can't see why you wouldn't just leave and restart the alert, unless you are in a Custom or Rampage and team is relying on you to get it done, That's very reasonable but for the others, it shows you love to solo things we need more soloable content, so let start with Lemuria and Monster island Crisis, so we can get yall back in to soloing that, and maybe some more stuff.
I enjoy this game. It's fun. What I don't enjoy is being able to solo just about everything in the game with the character I built... then suddenly I'm getting told that character doesn't work and is wrong... because the final bits of the game are spec'd to require specialists... so now I'm expected to gut the character's concept just to suddenly make them work... sorry you can't give me a story and an arc that results in me getting connected to my character just to suddenly tell me that everything that worked about them before is now broken because the final bosses of the game are designed to punish people who built a character for the rest of the game.
As for my willingness to play with people... ignoring the hostiles and the idiots running around with that stupid visualizer that's gotten me killed more than a few times... well I didn't need you for the rest of the game why should I now?
MMO does not mean team content. It’s both. Single content as well as team.
You think it means something it doesn’t.
It’s defined as players online on a single server. Not a game that you have to play with everyone.
Aman.
Actually it is defined by that and it does mean there is going to be content intended for other players. The silly notion that people seemingly get in their head that just because there is solo content doesn't mean it is all going to be solo content nor should it be. If you came to an MMO expecting to be able to solo everything, well, you came to the wrong place.
... then suddenly I'm getting told that character doesn't work and is wrong... because the final bits of the game are spec'd to require specialists... so now I'm expected to gut the character's concept just to suddenly make them work...
Or you could just be one of the many people that show up to cosmics and participate as dps without a very specialized build. Most of what you're describing here is self-imposed, so if you don't like it, don't do it.
I enjoy this game. It's fun. What I don't enjoy is being able to solo just about everything in the game with the character I built... then suddenly I'm getting told that character doesn't work and is wrong... because the final bits of the game are spec'd to require specialists...
A lot of the problem is that 95% of the game is ridiculously easy -- it was designed when character were about a third their current power level (i.e. one 2019 character is about as powerful as three 2009 characters) and never meaningfully updated. This means when you hit content that is actually tuned for the power level of modern characters, it's a rude shock.
It's really like CO is 2 games. The first is the easy leveling part where you can use basically any powers you want because it is easy. Having a good AoE is very helpful because mostly you are fighting mooks and you want to blow through those quickly. Once you hit 40 and do the endgame stuff some of those fun leveling powers just don't shine anymore. You could probably even drop any AoEs at that point since most of what you are fighting then are single big targets. I wish there wasn't such a disconnect between the 2 parts of the game.
It's really like CO is 2 games. The first is the easy leveling part where you can use basically any powers you want because it is easy. Having a good AoE is very helpful because mostly you are fighting mooks and you want to blow through those quickly. Once you hit 40 and do the endgame stuff some of those fun leveling powers just don't shine anymore. You could probably even drop any AoEs at that point since most of what you are fighting then are single big targets. I wish there wasn't such a disconnect between the 2 parts of the game.
Honestly, there is a misconception about the team content and endgame stuff. Due to certain people and certain attitudes, there is a group that believes you have to have a super optimized build to be worth anything. This is not true. However, the flip side is that there are a bunch of people that bring any old mess and put minimal effort into these things and think they are good enough, which isn't true either.
The argument stems from being able to follow theme or something which I can say all my builds follow a theme, and are capable of participating in that content. While it's hard to feel you can, because again there is a select minority of individuals that will talk down to others if they don't have a super optimized build, it just isn't the case. To be a contributor to most fights only requires you pay attention, study up on how the content works, and don't start acting like a butthead just because you aren't the center of attention, or believe because someone else did better than you that they are either elitist or cheating. And above all else, actually put effort in and not just stand there actually making things harder for the rest. Being a hero doesn't mean doing dumb things either, if you are coming in telling everyone when they say you need to block that you shouldn't have to block, well just don't bother because you are going to actually make things harder for the group as a whole. It's a two way street in that dialog at that point.
MMO does not mean team content. It’s both. Single content as well as team.
You think it means something it doesn’t.
It’s defined as players online on a single server. Not a game that you have to play with everyone.
Aman.
Actually it is defined by that and it does mean there is going to be content intended for other players. The silly notion that people seemingly get in their head that just because there is solo content doesn't mean it is all going to be solo content nor should it be. If you came to an MMO expecting to be able to solo everything, well, you came to the wrong place.
And to be pedantic, it's Amen.
"Actually it is defined by that" ? No a M.M.O can be any thing or have whatever it like it don't fully means it have to have solo-able content, but it also Don't mean it have to have Team-force content ether, it whatever help what the game or the company, in the end it's all about the company and the people who made the game, you going like it M.M.Os are only this way and never the other way, this very false, bare in mind a lot of M.M.Os are coming out like almost every month or so, and for you to say that is very Bold, and kinda silly at best, a lot of M.M.O's are out there, i don't know what ones you play but yeah, it never stated M.M.O's will have Team-play content, unless the game said so itself. like Champion online NEVER Stated it have Teamwork content, instead it stated this:
Make Your Mark: All this within a constantly changing, continually evolving story: Villains are defeated. Heroes rise and fall. Cities transform. Your actions may decide the future!
"Your Actions may decide the future." BTW NOT 'Your Team Actions may decide the future.
there more words of "Your" then almost anything else. [Also i got to throw something at Kai ]
also Do you know that Grand Theft Auto Online is also A MMO?
for you to defined it by that, kinda shocking, that saying they all the same.
Also let be Real here, no one is going to waste time with a person unless they are getting a profit out of it E.g, dailies, Silver, Gold Rec, Question stuff. there are some who help without those reason, but..... it Rare sometimes.
Yes, GTA is an MMO... and it has tons of team content. Bad example if you want to claim there are MMOs that are primarily focused on solo content.
Also, MMO is in fact defined by having multiplayer content. The 2nd M in MMO stands for Multiplayer. It is, in a very literal sense, part of the definition of the genre. It'd be like saying cheeseburgers are not defined by having burger patties - a cheeseburger without the patty is just a cheese sandwich, and an MMO without multiplayer content is just a single player game with a chat box. The "MMOs don't need team content" argument is a terrible way to make your case that any given part of an mmo should be soloable.
Yes, GTA is an MMO... and it has tons of team content. Bad example if you want to claim there are MMOs that are primarily focused on solo content.
Also, MMO is in fact defined by having multiplayer content. The 2nd M in MMO stands for Multiplayer. It is, in a very literal sense, part of the definition of the genre. It'd be like saying cheeseburgers are not defined by having burger patties - a cheeseburger without the patty is just a cheese sandwich, and an MMO without multiplayer content is just a single player game with a chat box. The "MMOs don't need team content" argument is a terrible way to make your case that any given part of an mmo should be soloable.
yeah. ton, but rarely even played BTW atleast on the PC Version BTW and it optional not something you have to do, at ALL! and infact you can sell 2-3 cargo vehicles by yourself without any help, and get alot of money from that, the game dont prevent you from doing that. and the heist within the game at best 2-5% of the game.
yes multiplayer you get to play with people BY CHOICE!, not FORCE. Yeah online with those people within that server, sooo you don't have to associate with them, at all you have that choice. multiplayer have more to do with player within the game involves with in the same server of that area or area zone that you in, mean you will see otherplayers! duh! multiplayer, let me break it down for you so you can easy eat it...
Multiplayer:
denoting or relating to a video game designed for or involving several players.
That Do Not mean you have to work with those players, nor it means you have to help these players, it just mean they will be within the same session you are in, that you will likely interact with you or so.
a MMO is frankly another World you can be a part of! i'm shocked that yall didn't know that. Wow. :O
and idk what you getting at about a singleplayer no one is asking to make this game a Singleplayer game, we want a choice to do it ourselves or not do it ourselves, that should be a VERY COMMON OPTION!
MMO do not means you are title to help or work with people or or anyone, so it would not make sense to a say MMO is all about Teamwork\Teamplay, that is very false.
Teamplay should be in a that it helps not a requirement, unless you are helping or support that content within that game
TA, gives out Gold and Silver recognition for reason...
MMO only means multiplayer’s online in a single server.
Has no connection between solo or team, it’s multiple people in a game online.
The connection is that there's no good reason to design a game that way except for multiplayer content. Single player content for single player games is a lot better than single player content for MMOs, because there are a lot of things you can do in a single player game that are impractical or much more difficult in a multi player game, so if you're interested in single player content, play single player games and run a chat client.
Or we can play this game and ask they stop adding team only options....and put it back how it was.
If you can’t kill something on your own, get a team. If you can...you should be allowed to.
There is zero harm having Crisis remain the way they were for several years.
This whole...’find another game’ just because people want solo options is stupid.
I think your argument is myopic at best. You are using incredibly faulty logic since the very intent of a many of the encounters that aren't soloable now, is that they weren't suppose to be soloable. Many of the lairs weren't suppose to be soloable. All the cosmics weren't suppose to be soloable. A lot of OMS weren't suppose to be soloable. If you are trying to tell them to put it back the way it was, well seems they are trying to push that way now, by making content that requires teams. And MMos are about that socializing and interaction between its players. Sorry you feel otherwise, but that's the truth there.
Or we can play this game and ask they stop adding team only options....and put it back how it was.
If you can’t kill something on your own, get a team. If you can...you should be allowed to.
If we define 'team only' options as "even if you could solo it, the game doesn't let you", the game most certainly isn't adding team only options. You can't get into an alert without a team, sure, but that's been that way for years. There's nothing preventing you from attacking cosmics solo, you'll just lose.
This whole...’find another game’ just because people want solo options is stupid.
Multiplayer games are going to have content that is multiplayer only. That's a staple of the genre. If you don't like multiplayer content, then you don't need to find another game, you just need to not play the multiplayer content, and only play the solo content, which there is plenty of. Yes, that means you might forego some rewards, but the same is true for avoiding any content in the game.
Or we can play this game and ask they stop adding team only options....and put it back how it was.
i will never ask them to stop adding Team only content, because some team base content is good but it bad when the game relies on it to much, in the end it going to make the game boring,
i like how they did Death rattle, it soloable and fun to do with friends
Multiplayer games are going to have content that is multiplayer only. That's a staple of the genre. If you don't like multiplayer content, then you don't need to find another game, you just need to not play the multiplayer content, and only play the solo content, which there is plenty of. Yes, that means you might forego some rewards, but the same is true for avoiding any content in the game.
What the world? "Multiplayer games are going to have content that is multiplayer only."? well duh that what
multiplayer is, Players on one game, one server, one world, duh! for what you saying is like: a burger is going to taste like a burger because that what a burger is, if you don't like the burger, then you don't need to look for anything else on the menu, just don't need to eat a burger.
and we only asking to take off the pickles for this burger.
AND IS THAT'S THE LOCKED OUT [BTW], THAT YOU MUST HAVE A TEAM TO DO SO, Regardless...
And are you on something?
"and only play the solo content, which there is plenty of."
^Semi-false^ At this point now it just false, since their is no proof that 95% of this game is solo content or fact it legit reason or way to do so, Alerts don't count, because you will need to glitch or exploit the game to get in to do so without much profit.
and even if you could just ask a few of your friends to get you the alert, and leave, it just like asking for someone to help you to go to, one place that Shouldn't be locked out for the first place for only team like Monster island and Lemuria Crisis that are very very soloable and , So that don't sound so much like solo content, or frankly soloable content at this point, because it Hear and Say.
for what i'm getting from shewolf and the rest of you all is: If you don't die to while fighting it by yourself, and not kill it... it solo content!
No. no it not. if you going to make it like that, Then this game needs more soloable content then anything, if that the case.
and again Multiplayer is not the same as Teamplay[er], alot of games are multiplayer, racing games, also survival games, and even flight sims, and Even Real time strategy or turn base games too.
Again Massive Multiplayer Online meaning you joining a world\a large community fill with player and NPC, and so on, do not state or mean it going to be aiming or going for team play unless the game said so or something is special within the game, like endgame... and you have seen the movie right?
forgot to add: there are Canada, Desert, Vibora bay Crisis mission, all fully soloable. and can't even get help doing Vibora bay Crisis unless, special case...
so why can't we get monster island and Lemuria Crisis, as a soloable queuing?
Logically, if the reason Monster Island and Lemuria Crisis should remain team-only content is 'this is an MMO, play a single player game if you don't like it', then that reason extends to every piece of content on the MMO.
Therefore, I would like to propose that nobody should be PERMITTED to leave the Ren Cen unless they are on a six-person team. No missions, no zones... not even the costume creator. THIS IS AN MMO. If you don't like it, go play a single-player game, you Philistine.
Logically, if the reason Monster Island and Lemuria Crisis should remain team-only content is 'this is an MMO, play a single player game if you don't like it', then that reason extends to every piece of content on the MMO.
Therefore, I would like to propose that nobody should be PERMITTED to leave the Ren Cen unless they are on a six-person team. No missions, no zones... not even the costume creator. THIS IS AN MMO. If you don't like it, go play a single-player game, you Philistine.
You seem to miss the forest for the trees a lot. I don't think anyone said they should be. But then again last I checked MI Crisis and Lemurian Crisis are not required content to progress into those zones.
Logically, if the reason Monster Island and Lemuria Crisis should remain team-only content is 'this is an MMO, play a single player game if you don't like it', then that reason extends to every piece of content on the MMO.
Therefore, I would like to propose that nobody should be PERMITTED to leave the Ren Cen unless they are on a six-person team. No missions, no zones... not even the costume creator. THIS IS AN MMO. If you don't like it, go play a single-player game, you Philistine.
"Everything in an MMO needs to be team content" is just as bad a premise for an argument as "MMOs don't need team content". Your strawman attempt has failed.
Logically, if the reason Monster Island and Lemuria Crisis should remain team-only content is 'this is an MMO, play a single player game if you don't like it', then that reason extends to every piece of content on the MMO.
Therefore, I would like to propose that nobody should be PERMITTED to leave the Ren Cen unless they are on a six-person team. No missions, no zones... not even the costume creator. THIS IS AN MMO. If you don't like it, go play a single-player game, you Philistine.
You seem to miss the forest for the trees a lot. I don't think anyone said they should be. But then again last I checked MI Crisis and Lemurian Crisis are not required content to progress into those zones.
actually you was hinting at that kinda a lot, you never once said you was for this nor you said you was against it, however you went against it by saying this
No one said this game didn't have this amount of Soloable content, For what you said there was very misleading thing to say let along it was off topic atleast to the point of the incorrect meaning of the a acronym of word in <MMO> that i had to correct, that was very very odd, and weird i had to do that, and made no sense, but had to correct this because by your words up there, you just out right said if not hint: "these mission don't need a solo queuing because it a <MMO>" that what you just said if not hint at very most, you never once said you for this idea of these mission being solo queuing, Like NEVER! so yeah if he kinda hint at you shewolf and Foxi and maybe penta for that because that what yall been saying on this discussion this whole time...
Also, No you don't even need to do the crisis mission Canada and Southwest Desert Crisis to unlock them, atleast not anymore anyway but you are Force to do Vibora bay Crisis in order to unlock VB. and you cant get a team to help you with that unless someone is in the area zone, or got teleport to Team or teleport team device, and that's funny considering that you need a team of 2 Xtra people to get in the other crisis like Monster island and Lemuria, Like really now? LOL
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I want to see them revert them into Solo queues, it's not even difficult and can be soloed for pete's sake
People don't even queue for them
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
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I was queued for days on end with the MIC... before it finally pop'd. Was this changed recently? Did the same with Lemurian Crisis before I had to take a break from gaming due to real life.
I wish they'd make solo's of all the blood group content... but that's me... I don't like groups, in real life or in game, just makes my anxiety spike.
> Monster Island Crisis is a soloable queue. However you have to wait I think 3 minutes before it will stop searching and begin. Lemurian Crisis on the other hand is not.
Monster Island crisis USED to be a soloable queue but not anymore it was changed, during the nemesis mission change over update.
So both monster island and lemurian are 3 person queuing At The Moment, And that need to Change.
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Well this is also only Game of it kind can't really blame him on that, but really this game needs some more soloable content, NOT content turn soloable like cosmics Or Gold recognition grinding stuff.
Yes, because 95% of the game being soloable, constitutes it needs more. Again, missing the point of the MMO part of MMORPG.
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95%?
There is really only a very small portion of the over all game that can't be solo'd. And of that portion some builds can still solo it. The exception are cosmics, and certain OM remakes. Even the alerts are soloable with a lot of build set ups. Now if all you do is alerts and you do nothing else, i can see where your confusion of the vast majority of this game being soloable is at, because you probably rarely leave the ren center, but the vast majority of this game is actually quite soloable.
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Yeah I know, she low-balled the number, it's actually more than that. Typical championshewolf, always making numbers lower than they need to be ^_^.
( that's a tanking joke )
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At first thought you was talking about another game, okay.
1. if you talk about using a Freeform, Then that do not count. that is not really a standard or something you get right off when you start playing this game, you want to give people a reason to invest in to this game not a reason invest because it looks logical, it not a good choice of action invest in a FF right at start because of Semi-complexity and must have the knowledge of what he\she is doing with side FF Powers.
2. used to be a time that the old mega destroid can be soloed and get good amount of Gs [50-80Gs worth] from just by soloing it, but that now no long a thing that can be done now, and it more of a get a call up a team and get the roles for the job, just like cosmic, that a good thing because this help people to learn how to fight cosmics in away, and at the right time and place! but that was a huge loss of profit within the game, when i said "this game needs some more soloable content" i mean profitable solo content like getting a item to sell or to keep, or something that give more life to this game, like getting collectibles [Action figures don't cut it!] like items bring in entertain and fun and usefulness to the community, it a reason i said Cosmics, and Gold recognition within my reply, because these are the most Go to in champions Online, and i thought you would catch on to that, And also Standard mission in CO also don't don't really cut it in to this, yeah! they are soloable, maybe to a point. but they can be only done like 1 time per character at least to some anyway, and i'm not altoholic, and it be silly to think alot of people are...
3.Alert are not count as soloable, and i hope you know this because that truly do not count, because you can somehow solo a boss without a teams help don't means it soloable, you need 4-7 people to even be within the alert, and you Grab,Burst,smash, they soloable with a Freeform... and maybe with a AT with a certain powerset, but that will mean you will need All 4 people to somehow Quit or crash with in the alert while you fighting the boss, if you don't ask them to do so, that will be the chance of that happening... 2% if not less then that,
Rampage and Customs Alerts, Customs?... Nope, with Save The Earth anyway being that thing. Rampage? No, Fire and ice. because Rampage and Customs alerts are not meant to be soloable, it rightout silly to say alert count as soloable content, with they are made not to be so. <:/
4. "exception are cosmics" really? so you solo Teleios Ascendant by yourself? Or just you didn't know that exist? lair also a thing to By The Way, not once you mention this, in anyway, are you really in the right to say it 95%?
5. if it is 95% why is there's are more people at Rencenter MC doing nothing but chatting and not doing these 95% soloable content? and why is places like Desert, Canada, Monster Island, Vibora bay having so few range from 1-7 people, we all know those number go higher then that when a cosmic is going on. i know this game may not have that much people but, Cmon! unless you telling me Roleplaying with or without a X is soloable content, alone with standing by defender all day.
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This is, in fact, the definition of soloable o3o you're basically saying "just because you can solo something doesn't mean you can solo it".
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You right! by a 100
But you might not beable to do it with a AT, ref to number1. bare in mind shewolf didn't clarify this can be done with AT or FF, and I should had said: you can't count as soloable content by design, unless telling me that people need to make their own content, that just a shame and kinda unfair, yeah there alot of thing you can solo.... As a freeform, I'm not going to take away she had solo 95% of stuff in this game, it something that's I do myself, but 95% as content, by intended design
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Just because it’s a MMO don’t mean I have or want to play with you people.
Then you have to live with your choice. If you don't want to play with others... well, sorry. But that's your choice and your choice is you don't want to participate in the team content. Again, MMO, you want a single player experience then you may wish to check out similar single player games then.
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You think it means something it doesn’t.
It’s defined as players online on a single server. Not a game that you have to play with everyone.
how about it Kaiserin?
As for my willingness to play with people... ignoring the hostiles and the idiots running around with that stupid visualizer that's gotten me killed more than a few times... well I didn't need you for the rest of the game why should I now?
Aman.
Actually it is defined by that and it does mean there is going to be content intended for other players. The silly notion that people seemingly get in their head that just because there is solo content doesn't mean it is all going to be solo content nor should it be. If you came to an MMO expecting to be able to solo everything, well, you came to the wrong place.
And to be pedantic, it's Amen.
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Or you could just be one of the many people that show up to cosmics and participate as dps without a very specialized build. Most of what you're describing here is self-imposed, so if you don't like it, don't do it.
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Honestly, there is a misconception about the team content and endgame stuff. Due to certain people and certain attitudes, there is a group that believes you have to have a super optimized build to be worth anything. This is not true. However, the flip side is that there are a bunch of people that bring any old mess and put minimal effort into these things and think they are good enough, which isn't true either.
The argument stems from being able to follow theme or something which I can say all my builds follow a theme, and are capable of participating in that content. While it's hard to feel you can, because again there is a select minority of individuals that will talk down to others if they don't have a super optimized build, it just isn't the case. To be a contributor to most fights only requires you pay attention, study up on how the content works, and don't start acting like a butthead just because you aren't the center of attention, or believe because someone else did better than you that they are either elitist or cheating. And above all else, actually put effort in and not just stand there actually making things harder for the rest. Being a hero doesn't mean doing dumb things either, if you are coming in telling everyone when they say you need to block that you shouldn't have to block, well just don't bother because you are going to actually make things harder for the group as a whole. It's a two way street in that dialog at that point.
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"Actually it is defined by that" ? No a M.M.O can be any thing or have whatever it like it don't fully means it have to have solo-able content, but it also Don't mean it have to have Team-force content ether, it whatever help what the game or the company, in the end it's all about the company and the people who made the game, you going like it M.M.Os are only this way and never the other way, this very false, bare in mind a lot of M.M.Os are coming out like almost every month or so, and for you to say that is very Bold, and kinda silly at best, a lot of M.M.O's are out there, i don't know what ones you play but yeah, it never stated M.M.O's will have Team-play content, unless the game said so itself. like Champion online NEVER Stated it have Teamwork content, instead it stated this:
Make Your Mark: All this within a constantly changing, continually evolving story: Villains are defeated. Heroes rise and fall. Cities transform. Your actions may decide the future!
"Your Actions may decide the future." BTW NOT 'Your Team Actions may decide the future.
there more words of "Your" then almost anything else. [Also i got to throw something at Kai
also Do you know that Grand Theft Auto Online is also A MMO?
for you to defined it by that, kinda shocking, that saying they all the same.
Also let be Real here, no one is going to waste time with a person unless they are getting a profit out of it E.g, dailies, Silver, Gold Rec, Question stuff. there are some who help without those reason, but..... it Rare sometimes.
Also, MMO is in fact defined by having multiplayer content. The 2nd M in MMO stands for Multiplayer. It is, in a very literal sense, part of the definition of the genre. It'd be like saying cheeseburgers are not defined by having burger patties - a cheeseburger without the patty is just a cheese sandwich, and an MMO without multiplayer content is just a single player game with a chat box. The "MMOs don't need team content" argument is a terrible way to make your case that any given part of an mmo should be soloable.
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yeah. ton, but rarely even played BTW atleast on the PC Version BTW and it optional not something you have to do, at ALL! and infact you can sell 2-3 cargo vehicles by yourself without any help, and get alot of money from that, the game dont prevent you from doing that. and the heist within the game at best 2-5% of the game.
yes multiplayer you get to play with people BY CHOICE!, not FORCE. Yeah online with those people within that server, sooo you don't have to associate with them, at all you have that choice. multiplayer have more to do with player within the game involves with in the same server of that area or area zone that you in, mean you will see otherplayers! duh! multiplayer, let me break it down for you so you can easy eat it...
Multiplayer:
denoting or relating to a video game designed for or involving several players.
That Do Not mean you have to work with those players, nor it means you have to help these players, it just mean they will be within the same session you are in, that you will likely interact with you or so.
a MMO is frankly another World you can be a part of! i'm shocked that yall didn't know that. Wow. :O
and idk what you getting at about a singleplayer no one is asking to make this game a Singleplayer game, we want a choice to do it ourselves or not do it ourselves, that should be a VERY COMMON OPTION!
MMO do not means you are title to help or work with people or or anyone, so it would not make sense to a say MMO is all about Teamwork\Teamplay, that is very false.
Teamplay should be in a that it helps not a requirement, unless you are helping or support that content within that game
TA, gives out Gold and Silver recognition for reason...
Has no connection between solo or team, it’s multiple people in a game online.
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If you can’t kill something on your own, get a team. If you can...you should be allowed to.
There is zero harm having Crisis remain the way they were for several years.
This whole...’find another game’ just because people want solo options is stupid.
I think your argument is myopic at best. You are using incredibly faulty logic since the very intent of a many of the encounters that aren't soloable now, is that they weren't suppose to be soloable. Many of the lairs weren't suppose to be soloable. All the cosmics weren't suppose to be soloable. A lot of OMS weren't suppose to be soloable. If you are trying to tell them to put it back the way it was, well seems they are trying to push that way now, by making content that requires teams. And MMos are about that socializing and interaction between its players. Sorry you feel otherwise, but that's the truth there.
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Multiplayer games are going to have content that is multiplayer only. That's a staple of the genre. If you don't like multiplayer content, then you don't need to find another game, you just need to not play the multiplayer content, and only play the solo content, which there is plenty of. Yes, that means you might forego some rewards, but the same is true for avoiding any content in the game.
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i will never ask them to stop adding Team only content, because some team base content is good but it bad when the game relies on it to much, in the end it going to make the game boring,
i like how they did Death rattle, it soloable and fun to do with friends
using few pieces of my words, is not going to win your argument, or is going to make you look any smarter,
but that already known, right?
that's Teamplay and multiplayer are NOT THE SAMETHING! xD
And Never have been, you are grasping 'Poorly' for straws.
What the world? "Multiplayer games are going to have content that is multiplayer only."? well duh that what
multiplayer is, Players on one game, one server, one world, duh! for what you saying is like: a burger is going to taste like a burger because that what a burger is, if you don't like the burger, then you don't need to look for anything else on the menu, just don't need to eat a burger.
and we only asking to take off the pickles for this burger.
AND IS THAT'S THE LOCKED OUT [BTW], THAT YOU MUST HAVE A TEAM TO DO SO, Regardless...
And are you on something?
"and only play the solo content, which there is plenty of."
^Semi-false^ At this point now it just false, since their is no proof that 95% of this game is solo content or fact it legit reason or way to do so, Alerts don't count, because you will need to glitch or exploit the game to get in to do so without much profit.
and even if you could just ask a few of your friends to get you the alert, and leave, it just like asking for someone to help you to go to, one place that Shouldn't be locked out for the first place for only team like Monster island and Lemuria Crisis that are very very soloable and , So that don't sound so much like solo content, or frankly soloable content at this point, because it Hear and Say.
for what i'm getting from shewolf and the rest of you all is: If you don't die to while fighting it by yourself, and not kill it... it solo content!
No. no it not. if you going to make it like that, Then this game needs more soloable content then anything, if that the case.
and again Multiplayer is not the same as Teamplay[er], alot of games are multiplayer, racing games, also survival games, and even flight sims, and Even Real time strategy or turn base games too.
Again Massive Multiplayer Online meaning you joining a world\a large community fill with player and NPC, and so on, do not state or mean it going to be aiming or going for team play unless the game said so or something is special within the game, like endgame... and you have seen the movie right?
so why can't we get monster island and Lemuria Crisis, as a soloable queuing?
I see no problem with it, what so ever...
Sure, in addition to team play, multiplayer can also mean pvp.
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Therefore, I would like to propose that nobody should be PERMITTED to leave the Ren Cen unless they are on a six-person team. No missions, no zones... not even the costume creator. THIS IS AN MMO. If you don't like it, go play a single-player game, you Philistine.
You seem to miss the forest for the trees a lot. I don't think anyone said they should be. But then again last I checked MI Crisis and Lemurian Crisis are not required content to progress into those zones.
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"Everything in an MMO needs to be team content" is just as bad a premise for an argument as "MMOs don't need team content". Your strawman attempt has failed.
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actually you was hinting at that kinda a lot, you never once said you was for this nor you said you was against it, however you went against it by saying this
No one said this game didn't have this amount of Soloable content, For what you said there was very misleading thing to say let along it was off topic atleast to the point of the incorrect meaning of the a acronym of word in <MMO> that i had to correct, that was very very odd, and weird i had to do that, and made no sense, but had to correct this because by your words up there, you just out right said if not hint: "these mission don't need a solo queuing because it a <MMO>" that what you just said if not hint at very most, you never once said you for this idea of these mission being solo queuing, Like NEVER! so yeah if he kinda hint at you shewolf and Foxi and maybe penta for that because that what yall been saying on this discussion this whole time...
Also, No you don't even need to do the crisis mission Canada and Southwest Desert Crisis to unlock them, atleast not anymore anyway but you are Force to do Vibora bay Crisis in order to unlock VB. and you cant get a team to help you with that unless someone is in the area zone, or got teleport to Team or teleport team device, and that's funny considering that you need a team of 2 Xtra people to get in the other crisis like Monster island and Lemuria, Like really now? LOL