Circle of Ebon Wrath suggestion

spinnytop

I thought this up in another thread, planting it here as a suggestion.

So first, move CoEW into the Darkness tree. Maybe move Aura of Ebon Wrath there too for consistency.

Second, while standing in the circle, any time the player uses an offensive Life Drain effect they gain additional stacks of the circle's damage buff. These stacks fall off quickly, so the player is encouraged to keep using Life Drain effects inbetween pushing out higher damage attacks.

This makes the circle more useful than it is now, while also preventing it from just being tacked on to every dps build. Also feels very Darknessy, stealing life force from your enemies and using it to empower your own attacks.

Would require other adjustments, etc...​​

warcanch

Pre On-Alert, it used to be a nice way of making every power generate Fear.

Now, to add to your suggestion, I'd almost prefer the Fear part to be an Advantage. Additionally, a Poison and Dependency advantages, so that it works with any of the 3 "life drain" powers. Each would "apply" 1 stack of Fear, Poison, or Dependency, and only do Refreshing of the 1 stack every 3-5(?) seconds.

Or, just the 1 Advantage that does all 3 for 3pts? Too much?​​

spinnytop

Well, Life Essence and Mind Drain are already tagged as Life Drain effects, so they would work with this by default, no advantages required.​​

jaazaniah1

Maybe it could boost darkness powers a lot, dimension/paranormal/magical a medium amount and all other powers a bit less?

warcanch

But all 3 need those corresponding effects to allow the associated "life drain" to be AoE.​​

spinnytop

Yeah but I don't think the circle should be replacing the need to get powers to apply those effects.​​

pantagruel01

I'd be tempted to have it convert a portion of healing (to you) into extra damage. Would make certain healing powers interesting offensively on a support build.

aesica

spinnytop wrote: »

Yeah but I don't think the circle should be replacing the need to get powers to apply those effects.​​

Whether you're getting the other power or the circle, you're still getting a second power to apply the effects.

warcanch

I feel a case can be made for it either way. I just figured since it already had the FEAR and you want it usable for the other "life drain" powers, this would be a good fit. But, your point is valid too.​​

spinnytop

aesica wrote: »

spinnytop wrote: »

Yeah but I don't think the circle should be replacing the need to get powers to apply those effects.

Whether you're getting the other power or the circle, you're still getting a second power to apply the effects.

No, you're getting the Circle for the benefits the circle provides, which would be significant. Tossing in the ability to then escape power requirements for other powers is too much. It'd be fine with CoEW as it is on live right now. Remember that they put these requirements in place for a reason - better to work with things the way they are than try to pretend they're not.​​

aesica

Right, but in order to avoid making your new version something every damage build would require, its effects can only be so good. In other words, not good enough to mandate weaving drain + main attack + drain, but rather, just a way to not lose as much (or any?) dps should you decide to switch to drain for a channel or two.

So by itself, that's still not much of a reason to take CoEW. Being able to also apply the drain's aoe component debuff would sweeten the deal without being a full replacement for the more mainstream appliers of those effects (well, for dependency and poison anyway, since the proposition was only for a single stack).

spinnytop

Nah, with this change it'd be worth taking for people using Life Drain tagged attacks. It doesn't also need to fulfill a full power requirement. I'd even suggest removing the Fear application.​​