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Petition: Revert the forum migration

katamaster81899katamaster81899 Posts: 869 Arc User
Alright, apparently you can't even create polls on these forums. Talk about yet another key feature we no longer have.

http://micropoll.com/t/KFmP6ZVThl

vote in the poll above, and hopefully we can prove that we all don't like this merge and want the old functional forums back until they find a suitable host for new forums!
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  • askrayaskray Posts: 3,308 Community Moderator
    Polls are disabled on a lot of the forums, so this isn't anything new especially for me. Hell it was disabled on the STO forums >.>

    However, they aren't going to revert it. This has been a long time in the works, discussions were done and what not so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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  • revjimjonesrevjimjones Posts: 604 Arc User
    Alright, apparently you can't even create polls on these forums. Talk about yet another key feature we no longer have.

    http://micropoll.com/t/KFmP6ZVThl

    vote in the poll above, and hopefully we can prove that we all don't like this merge and want the old functional forums back until they find a suitable host for new forums!

    Might as well get used to this wasteland.
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  • nrglgnrglg Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    There are numerous usability issues as well as bugs. They know about them and chose to not fix them in several places. So, as far as I can tell, this no poll thing is no deterrent for them.

    I just wish they would put the vBulletin forums in read only mode while they are migrating the data. It's incredibly amateur to completely remove our ability to even read them.

    Edit: Changed "readonly" to "read only". I've been programming way too much in the last 48 hours and readonly is a keyword I found myself using quite frequently.
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  • revjimjonesrevjimjones Posts: 604 Arc User
    nrglg wrote: »
    I just wish they would put the vBulletin forums in readonly mode while they are migrating the data. It's incredibly amateur to completely remove our ability to even read them.

    We can keep questioning this decision because I for one have no idea why they didn't put them in read only mode.
    Or why they didn't create a Temp Category here for people to start threads in for ease movement when the migration is complete. It's like they didn't have a plan other than:
    Step 1: Turn off Forums
    Step 2: Start Db Conversion
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Upload to Vanilla
    Step 5: Be Amazed Customers
    Step 6: Profit
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  • comrademococomrademoco Posts: 592 Arc User
    I actually like these forums. Not best but meh, it works for me...

    BTW... Hi askray, didn't recognize you without your previous sto avatar. :)
  • askrayaskray Posts: 3,308 Community Moderator
    I actually like these forums. Not best but meh, it works for me...

    BTW... Hi askray, didn't recognize you without your previous sto avatar. :)

    The name didn't give it away?! lol
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  • dareaudareau Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    nrglg wrote: »
    I just wish they would put the vBulletin forums in readonly mode while they are migrating the data. It's incredibly amateur to completely remove our ability to even read them.

    We can keep questioning this decision because I for one have no idea why they didn't put them in read only mode.
    Or why they didn't create a Temp Category here for people to start threads in for ease movement when the migration is complete. It's like they didn't have a plan other than:
    Step 1: Turn off Forums
    Step 2: Start Db Conversion
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Upload to Vanilla
    Step 5: Be Amazed Customers
    Step 6: Profit

    I can understand the lack of "read only" mode - people would be commenting over here on the threads over there. Big mess.

    However, I can't get my head around why they haven't opened up the future section(s) for posting now, especially since we're all over the bug reporting / suggestion / complaint forums trying to make ourselves at home waiting for the migrations to migrate...
    New Forum, new attempt at complaining about ship tiers and the exclusion of two certain "iconic" hero ships from "endgame" in STO.
    Being that T5 / Fleet T5 / T5 Upgraded isn't "officially" endgame anymore (that's Fleet T6 now) can we see these excluded ships at T5 / T5.5 / T5U11...
    Note, these ships have no letters after the dash in their registry numbers, whether it was 01 or 1701...
  • gulberatgulberat Posts: 400 Arc User
    dareau wrote: »
    However, I can't get my head around why they haven't opened up the future section(s) for posting now, especially since we're all over the bug reporting / suggestion / complaint forums trying to make ourselves at home waiting for the migrations to migrate...

    My suspicion is that if we posted in those subforums, it would do something bad when the data imports, trying to reconcile the two versions of what that subforum "should" look like. I am not sure though.

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  • kvetkvet Posts: 1,288 Arc User
    These forums are crapulance compared to what we're used it. Like we were flying in planes, but the rest of PWE was walking, so "upgrading" to a bicycle seems extraordinary to them, but it's a huge downgrade for us.
  • this just made it extremely hard for me to play my games. I was following guides and reading on classes for games that haven't even been transferred yet. I agree that the old forums need to at least be made read only shit I wanna be able to do things right, not fuck up and have to pay for shit that I don't need now.

    Make the other forums readable for this sake
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Posts: 1,730 Arc User
    kvet wrote: »
    These forums are crapulance compared to what we're used it. Like we were flying in planes, but the rest of PWE was walking, so "upgrading" to a bicycle seems extraordinary to them, but it's a huge downgrade for us.

    Excellent comparison...
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  • opkossyopkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    gulberat wrote: »
    dareau wrote: »
    However, I can't get my head around why they haven't opened up the future section(s) for posting now, especially since we're all over the bug reporting / suggestion / complaint forums trying to make ourselves at home waiting for the migrations to migrate...

    My suspicion is that if we posted in those subforums, it would do something bad when the data imports, trying to reconcile the two versions of what that subforum "should" look like. I am not sure though.

    Only if they were trying to force the old stuff into these new ones and were clueless about how to do so. In this case, though, there's nothing that should really interfere with a simple creation of temporary categories for the old forums.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 3,694 Arc User
    That's a pretty fair comparison, even though the planes we were flying were those old, beaten jets they use in third world countries.
  • revjimjonesrevjimjones Posts: 604 Arc User
    opkossy wrote: »
    Only if they were trying to force the old stuff into these new ones and were clueless about how to do so. In this case, though, there's nothing that should really interfere with a simple creation of temporary categories for the old forums.

    Yeah I brought this up too, Temp categories I think they prefer to have us clutter up the Bug and Suggestion forums instead gives the Mods something to do after the Migration I guess.
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  • comrademococomrademoco Posts: 592 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    > @askray said:
    > The name didn't give it away?! lol


    Nope, not at all. :D

    Edit: Seems like quoting on mobile is still awry... :/
  • nrglgnrglg Posts: 347 Arc User
    Am I mistaken or is this thread missing from the Suggestion category, even though we can still post to it?

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  • gulberatgulberat Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    nrglg wrote: »
    Am I mistaken or is this thread missing from the Suggestion category, even though we can still post to it?

    I see that too--not sure why. The "annoyed" people in the Blacklight Retribution Russian subforum may be having the same issue with one of their posts.

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  • nrglgnrglg Posts: 347 Arc User
    I wonder if PWE is actively hiding any threads that disagree with them. If this is true, it begs the question why did they leave it open to posting still...

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  • askrayaskray Posts: 3,308 Community Moderator
    Nope. As far as I know no threads have been deleted
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 3,694 Arc User
    Yeah... I noticed the same thing. I just kind of figured it was a failed attempt to "disappear" the thread.
  • rattler2rattler2 Posts: 18,477 Arc User
    Who knows...
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  • gulberatgulberat Posts: 400 Arc User
    nrglg wrote: »
    I wonder if PWE is actively hiding any threads that disagree with them. If this is true, it begs the question why did they leave it open to posting still...

    What worries me is the potential of an underlying problem in the data structure.

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  • katamaster81899katamaster81899 Posts: 869 Arc User
    Which is yet another reason to abandon ship and go back to the old forums!
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  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Posts: 15,946 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    EDIT: Nevermind, half asleep and realized these were the general ARC forums and not the NW forums. Nonetheless, it's highly doubtful that, even with a hundred petitions, they're going to revert the change. Unfortunately, not everything a business does is subject to public referendum.

    Not saying that this is their best work, and there are about a half dozen things that should have been implemented before the forums went up, but they do reserve the right to present their services through whichever media or provider they deem fit.

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